tenergy 05 vs MX-P

i used tenergy before mxp. yes t05 is spinnier better in some ways, but i find mxp easier to play with.

May be you compare 3 months old Mx-p to brand new tenergy :) 

Edited by BaiMile - 03/29/2016 at 3:13am

rocketman222 wrote: I just tried tenergy 05 for the first time and i have been using tibhar MX-P for the last 3 months The tenergy i felt is way more spinny and i felt really overwhelmed by the number of loops and counter loops that went in, its almost like magic I now feel there isn't a lot of truth to MX-P being a tenergy 05 replacement I might be wrong but anyone else feel the same way?

Saitama wrote: i used tenergy before mxp. yes t05 is spinnier better in some ways, but i find mxp easier to play with.

 

The hardest thing in the world to do is to know for sure how much spin you are putting on the ball.  That is the one place where feel can really mislead you*. I say this as someone who prefers T05 to MX-P.  Even if your opponent is blocking your loops off the table, you cannot be sure of exactly why that is happening.  At the end of the day, I don't actually think that Tenergy 05 is a whole lot spinnier than MX-P, certainly not as much as it seems. 

The reason why MX-P is considered the closest Tenergy 05 replacement is that you can put it on your blade and with very little adjustment in any aspect of your strokes or technique make all the shots you did before and win and lose pretty much the same as before, with minimal or no time to get used to it.  That's all there is to it.  In this respect IMHO it is closest to Tenergy.

All the same, it will feel very different.  In fact it will feel much more different than it actually plays.  My theory is that MX-P accomplishes a similar outcome through a different combination of topsheet and sponge properties, along with greater factory boosting.  

* T05 has a more dampened, almost mushy feel that makes it seem like every time you topspin you are putting insane amounts of spin on the ball, whereas the ball contact with MX-P feels more abrupt.

Baal wrote: * T05 has a more dampened, almost mushy feel that makes it seem like every time you topspin you are putting insane amounts of spin on the ball, whereas the ball contact with MX-P feels more abrupt.

IT's not just the feeling guys.  There is the visible ball arc and dip as well as what happens when you rip the ball. The margin for hitting certain shots is just more.  MX-P makes similar shots, but not with the same margin for error.

rocketman222 wrote: As Baal noted, it definitely feels soft and mushy compared to the MX-P. And as NextLevel said, the margin for error is higher, i was able to make some of the shots that i usually don't make with MX-P (mostly counterlooping my practice partner's spinny loops during games) Also it definitely feels like it grabs and holds on to the ball longer than any other ESN rubber, I m sure its just a perception, given how small the actual dwell times are (in the order of milli seconds). Thanks for your observations guys, i m very happy and will continue with the t05.

yogi_bear just posted a nice review and comparison here:

mxp is harder than t05. elp is much closer to t05 than mxp. t05 hardness = 45. elp = 44.9  mxp = 47.5

seguso wrote: mxp is harder than t05. elp is much closer to t05 than mxp. t05 hardness = 45. elp = 44.9  mxp = 47.5

Feel, yes. Looping behavior, not so much.

slevin wrote: Argothman wrote: Once the factory boost wears off the MX-P it feels more solid and you need a faster contact. You can put a single layer of your preferred booster on it to make it catch the ball more, that'll make it feel a lot better in terms of producing spin. +1. Periodic booster rejuvenation goes a long way. Additionally, try removing your MX-P sheet every 3 weeks, removing glue layer, waiting for 10 minutes and re-gluing. Even though MX-P feels faster than T05, I find it much easier to control, both in the short game and mid-distance. I find it to be a cross between nicely boosted H3 & T05.

I just did it to my sheets. My one month old red 2.1 was dead. I put two layers of booster on it and glued it on after 3 days while it still had a dome. I tried it yesterday and it played superb.

I would summarise how I find T05 compared to MX-P (both relatively new sheets) as: T05 gives more spin than MX-P when the player makes little effort to create spin, MX-P gives more spin than T05 for fast brush strokes, T05 probably gets very slightly more spin with a very powerful spin drive (but I don't see too much in it), T05 generally feels slightly faster than MX-P for most shots.  MX-P has grippier top sheet, T05 has more elasticity (from the sponge).

Edited by PointEngineer - 04/04/2016 at 6:02am

which one is heavier in max thickness?.