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AgentHEX
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I can only imagine how terrible someone's game has to be to require a "BH rubber" to play decent. If a $10 galaxy max-tense truely "doesn't work" you should quit for the benefit of the sport.
It's also most bizzare when EJs ask this since they of all people should be able to adjust for minor throw variations or whatever. Edited by AgentHEX - 09/02/2013 at 4:53am |
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ZApenholder
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I can't believe you just said that. You should be banned from Table Tennis for the benefit of the sport. |
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AgentHEX
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The image of tennis is also similarly tarnished by whiners and posers who can't play with x or y string. Between these and the realists I don't think it's much of any contest who makes any sport look bad.
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ZApenholder
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And well done to you and trying to promote the sport!!! Big thumbs up |
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kajba
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Sorry for you too feel this way but from what i read its you who are bitter. No problem for an EJ to ask these question? My question was to get a hold of a rubber which is cheaper than the Rakza 7 Soft I am using right now. Replacing rubbers in the longterm is expensive. Nothing here said that I need another rubber to play decent and yes I might not be super good but I find it fun to try something from now and then but I dont expect I become godly when I get new rubbers. |
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AgentHEX
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It seems you don't disagree, but rather prefer to cover up inconvenient truths rather than resolve them. Edited by AgentHEX - 09/02/2013 at 5:38am |
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AndySmith
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What are you on about? The OP was looking for good performing BH rubbers because his current stuff is expensive. Plenty of good suggestions made, but then you pop up with:
Terrible attitude, unhelpful, embarrassing. If all you can offer is a passive aggressive insult, why bother posting?
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AgentHEX
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I'm not so much criticizing the OP as the responses. But if it's criticism you're after, then maybe try a couple cheap rubbers, analyze where they fall short if any and why you can't play effectively with them. |
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AgentHEX
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How are the "good suggestions" better than any generic list of rubbers that aren't too tacky or slow? Can you compare to the less good suggestions made?
No, quite the opposite. Trite epithets are embarrassingly unhelpful.
If someone's insulted by what's true, then I'd suggest they use something more insular than the internet. Personally I believe what was said had value, but what exactly is the value of your post? |
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ZApenholder
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I hope this Agent know it all guy is banned from this forum. Can't believe he can insult so many people and still get away with it. Asking someone to leave the sport is just way over the limit for me.... so much for the worlds biggest forum and getting rotten by an individual who is rude, and thinks he/she is king and knows it all. Guys, don't quit the sports because some looser who comments like this. This is pure arrogance, stupid and very unfriendly who chases people away from table tennis is the real bad thing for any sport. Certainly not a role model for the great sport of table tennis!! Table Tennis for most people is about enjoyment, so please enjoy it, no matter with what skill levels you have, or what equipment you are using. It is about fun and spending a nice time (not to mention all the health benefits of this great sport) |
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AgentHEX
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I also think petty authoritarian types should be banned for the benefit of the sport.
Irony overload. |
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ZApenholder
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Hey buddy Glad you are having fun. Just ignore that guy. If you read the post history from all he has commented, say the past 2 weeks. You can see he is really bitter person. imo, going for cheaper is good alternative, as many inexpensive items are really worth it I think there is already many good suggestions made in this thread already. Good luck and have lots of fun |
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AgentHEX
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Apparently not bitter enough to start monologuing about other people, though. That's some next level stuff. |
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AndySmith
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The value can be determined by the OP. He is looking for a cheaper alternative to his current rubber. Some suggestions seemed good IMO, some less so IMO, but the OP can make the ultimate decision.
The value I place on my post above is to hopefully make you consider what you think you contribute to this thread, and to others in future. You offer borderline offensive "advice" about quitting the sport if they require a "BH rubber". How does this help the OP in their search for a cheaper alternative to their current rubber? Have you made a suggestion yet which will help him answer his specific question? Or have you just used a vague insult about a player's level if they can't get something to "work"? I have already contributed to this thread earlier in a direct effort to help answer the OP's question. Also, the notion of what's "true" needs to be kept in context with the purpose of the thread. It's not only that someone might be insulted, but your comments are almost useless in the context of this thread's objective, which is to suggest cheaper alternatives to a currently-used rubber. Your contribution is just spam. You may as well jump in on every thread, offering "true" advice like "better keep breathing that oxygen, or you'll be in trouble". IMO, you push an anti-equipment agenda in as many threads as you can, and you derail some. You may think you are spreading "truth", but please bear in mind that you use an aggressive approach. Users shouldn't feel like they can't ask questions for fear of you (or others) jumping down their necks. If you feel strongly, start your own thread and have a nice old rant about the "truth" of how people who can't use Moon should quit the sport.
Edited by AndySmith - 09/02/2013 at 6:25am |
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It's sad that ZApenholder feels the need to explain your off topic rant to the OP, yes. But I would look more towards your general attitude on the forum for the reasons for that need, rather than trying to deflect responsibility.
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AgentHEX
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Can you try again but answer the question this time? If you can't think of any answer that's OK, too.
I don't think it's contentious that there are a lot of lesser players who ask for advice on pro equipment (ostensibly to elevate their game). When people give them the "answers" they want to hear, do you think that sort of deceit is willful or only out of ignorance? This is IMO a very meaningful question and hopefully you can try your best to answer.
I barely post a sentence or two, and the ridiculous overreaction just above is undeniable. Why do you feel it's appropriate to curtail some basic and evidently quite relevant elements, and not whatever the hell it is you're doing? Again, not a rhetorical question. |
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AgentHEX
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It's quite patronizing to make OT excuses for others as if they can't do so themselves. Speaking of OT, can you identify why a broader comment about BH rubbers is OT to a thread vaguely about BH rubber? This is related to the question as to how you personally judge answers to "which bh rubber am best", so answering either is fine. |
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ZApenholder
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AndySmith,
Thanks for sharing and confirming the same feeling as me. I have been ignoring Agenthex in all the threads that he has been derailing for a few days now. But the "leave the sport part" is way over the limit. Lets just ignore this guy, and hopefully this thread will not be derailed. If Mods wish to intervene, they are more than welcome. I really hope OP finds some solution and future members who search for this thread can find it usefull still. |
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AgentHEX
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You know at first I thought these outbursts were just a matter of loss in translation, but then I remembered that hyperbole is well and alive in chinese, too. So if it's not a matter of language/culture barrier, can you enlighten us on what the problem is?
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AndySmith
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No. This isn't S01E01 of the AgentHEX show, and the title of this thread isn't AndySmith's BH Rubber Opinions. The OP asked for alternatives, I supplied one, others offered their own opinions. My opinion isn't gospel, and if the OP wants any more info on any of the options offered then they can ask. If you want me to put a nice list together, start a new thread and ask me.
I wasn't aware that the level of the OP was known, or particularly relevant. The question was simply - a cheaper alternative BH rubber to R7S. These are the parameters given. I don't know what answers the OP wants to hear, all I can do is offer to the best of my experience what a cheaper alternative with similar characteristics would be. The OP also didn't limit the question to "pro" equipment, and I didn't see anyone on this thread suggest that Moon was inherently unusable. There were just suggestions made, and the OP is free to investigate any of these, or ask further questions. This may be a meaningful question to you. If so, I would highly recommend you start your own thread about it.
You are receiving some responses from me based on your first post in this thread. I'll quote the entirety of it below:
Sometimes, it only takes a few sentences to provoke a reaction, if they're good enough. You can take this opportunity to show the relevant elements in your post now if you like? I don't see who this post was aimed at, or how this helps the OP. This bit specifically interests me:
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AndySmith
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The issue is - by confronting him, you automatically contribute to the derailing of the thread yourself. I feel that I've already done so myself in this case, so I'll stop now, and apologise to the OP. I too hope the OP can find enough useful info in this thread.
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pingpongpaddy
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AgentHex aren't you ashamed to post with so little courtesy? as your command of English is better than the many people on here, for whom English is a second or even a third language, you seem to be enjoying a feeling of superiority to us ordinary mortals. But I can assure you, that now that we have been reading your posts for a while, its very apparent that your experience of TT is not very deep. You seem convinced of your own genius, but unfortunately your own posts are the proof that your confidence is misplaced. |
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AgentHEX
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Why do you so profusely refuse to answer such simple question yet have such expectations of others?
I wasn't aware this was a "whining cus I didn't get answer I wanted" type thread. In the future in order to avoid confusion maybe these can be specially denoted so people more generally interested in TT can avoid them.
Since you mentioned terrible attitudes, maybe you can show the basic human courtesy of answering others' questions before acting as if they owe you explanations first. |
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Can you explain in more detail what this hand waving is specifically about? Be sure to use small words so those of us without deep understanding can understand. |
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Your lack of courtesy I am disappointed that a person of your genius has come up with such a pathetically weak answer. I wont waste any more time on you |
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AgentHEX
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I thought it would've been obvious enough from seeing my posts if not life in general that courtesy is selective rather than universal, which is why I asked if something about this situation was specifically amiss.
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I tried Tuttle Beijing 4, I found it fairly dead and unlively, just not as good as I thought it would be after reading about it, Mars 2 in 33/34 degree is better for a cheap backhand rubber. Or you can just go for gold and get a sheet of Mark V, no shrinkage problems then and it will do everything you need with great consistency
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Seriously, this has been Off-topic since your first post and to be honest, I enjoyed this forum UNTIL you started posting. No offence but you are a typical internet-troll and I could, I would have closed this topic. I started this thread by asking an alternative and cheap backhand rubber due to I dont want to spend so much money buying rubbers. This has NOTHING to do with how I play or WHAT IS BEST for backhand. This was a simple question on what could be a viable solution for me as an EJ who doesn't want to spend too much money. I got lots of good feedback from many here and all of them has been considered, which resulted me in me buying a rubber. But again, the question was an alternative rubber not what would suit me or what is best. So your post with: "I can only imagine how terrible someone's game has to be to require a "BH rubber" to play decent." Is totally unecessary. The same goes for "you should quit for the benefit of the sport.". If you havent noticed Table Tennis is a dying sport compared to lots of other sports. To be honest I even think E-sports is bigger than table-tennis. Your answer on with: I'm not so much criticizing the OP as the responses. But if it's criticism you're after, then maybe try a couple cheap rubbers, analyze where they fall short if any and why you can't play effectively with them. I am not after criticism but viable solution to my problem with rubbers being expensive. Once again nothing to do with HOW I play or WHAT IS BEST. Like yourself stated "It's also most bizzare when EJs ask this since they of all people should be able to adjust for minor throw variations or whatever." But this is not what I am after, once again. So ASSentHEX; If you have nothing to provide to the thread, please stop with what you are doing as it does not help at all. If you are looking to be banned, delete your account. And adding to it, please read the thread before posting anything and please step on lego. To the others, please dont feed the troll. EDIT: Another thing, if you want to discuss something which is not about the topic, USE THE PM BUTTON! Edited by kajba - 09/02/2013 at 8:53am |
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Palio Blitz has a somewhat softer version 42.5 deg (regular Blitz is 47.5 which is a bit harder than T-05). Softer version is a bit harder than T-05 FX so it should be exactly what you need. It is a genuine German tensor made under Palio brand at ESN, and it is quite controllable, not as catapult-y as many other Euro tensors a-la Donic Acuda or Bluefire series. You can get it for about $30 from ttnpp.com (shipping is rather cheap, about 2 dollars) http://ttnpp.com/store/german-style/495-palio-blit-z-42-made-in-germany.html In speed it is a tad slower than Rakza but not by much. But better (less) sensitivity to incoming spin. |
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On the matter of disrespectful trolling: we do allow here some degree of impoliteness and some degree of troll-like deviation from the original topic. However, when a poster almost always does one of these two or combines them together, that of course draws our (mods, that is) usually unwelcome attention.
I hope my unsubtle hint will be noticed. |
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