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DHS H3 Neo Tuning/Gluing Questions |
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bonggoy 
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 Topic: DHS H3 Neo Tuning/Gluing QuestionsPosted: 02/09/2011 at 10:16am |
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Can you reglue H3 Neo?
Also what does tuning means? Somebody mentioned this to me last night and I have no idea what it was. Sorry for the newbie questions. I've been out of the game for a while. Edited by bonggoy - 02/11/2011 at 7:14pm |
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AMonteiro
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Posted: 02/09/2011 at 10:25am |
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They treat the rubber (sponge) at factory with some substance to enhance its performance like speed glue did in the past. Unfortunatelly, they can't match the old speed glue performance.
This is the "factory tuning". It's ITTF legal.
Professional players, league players also do a "self tuning". They use boosters (parafin oil based) to get that old speed glue performance also. There are some rubbers that work very well with boosters and some don't.
The most used boosters are: BTY Optimizer (hard to find), Falco Tempo Booster, Dandoy Bio Booster, Tibhar Clean Tuning (hard to find)..
Note that self tuning is ITTF ilegal but looks like ITTF can't catch them.
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Posted: 02/09/2011 at 11:35am |
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BTY Optimizer found here.
http://www.butterflyonline.com/online_store_productcloseup.asp?page=glue_clean_all.asp&type=13&ID=76&pg=3&SortBy=&displayNum=5&frompg=glue |
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JohnnyChop
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Posted: 02/10/2011 at 3:25am |
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how unlikely is the tournament officials gonna catch you useing the optimizer?
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Posted: 02/10/2011 at 11:25am |
It depends whether you play in a big tourney (3 - 5 stars) or small one. I knew people use the optimizer in 2 - 3 stars tourney and never get caught. |
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Posted: 02/11/2011 at 9:38am |
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You can reglue Neo. When the original tuning effect wore off after a month or so, I removed the water based glue layer on sponge and attached it with plain old rubber cement. And some of the effect returned. Your mileage may vary.
Bonggoy - can you change thread title to something like "DHS H3 Neo Tuning/Gluing Questions" - there are about 30 topics with the title "DHS H3 Neo" and I'm trying to make search work more efficiently :) |
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simon_xuan
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Posted: 02/11/2011 at 10:49am |
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I got a couple of Tihbar Clean Tune tubes from Paddlepalace.com when it was on sale. It worked great for traditional rubbers, Sriver, H3 pro #22, Nittaku H2, etc. However, it only makes minor dome on NEO sponges. Not much on Tenergy, either. I am not sure which oil works best for NEO sponge. I just feel the NEO gets softer and lack of bounce after 2-3 months of play. I played 40 and 39 degree ones, both colors.
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Imago
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Posted: 02/11/2011 at 11:58pm |
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And you have to play every day...
Still, most of the NEO rubbers are way too hard for their degrees.
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Posted: 02/12/2011 at 4:29am |
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I've been on a tuning adventure for a while. I hate using water based glues though.
My best combination is Paraffin Oil and Rubber Cement. Paraffin oil lasts 2-3 weeks with some kind of risidual effect, while the first two days or so its very very fast, speed is too much and spin is too litttle. After it settles down a bit, the balance is much better and the rubber performs very well.
I also discovered that It's very rubber specific.... When I played H3 39dg NEO, and TG3 Blue sponge, Paraffin Oil wasn't so good, especially on the blue sponge rubber. With H3 40 dg, the paraffin oil works very well.
So I think Paraffin oil is better fit for denser sponges. Probably very good with BW2 39+
Strangely enough, I use it on my Mark V and I like that. But I rely more on pace than spin on my BH, so that could be why. Really adds a lot of pop to good old Mark V.
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