J-pen why not RPB?

charlesj wrote: longhand wrote: I have a friend who used long pips as a RPB on his JPen. Gave him an extremely weird game though. Has any1 tried pips out for Cpen or Jpen? I suppose it is used for twiddling and not RPB

Actually my dad started using long pips! for rpb, but then switched to short pips.

Still good for countering strong spin and he can also use it to smash backhand balls! He uses Dawei 388B 1.0mm sponge.

He uses Kpen btw - round headed jpen.

longhand wrote: I have a friend who used long pips as a RPB on his JPen. Gave him an extremely weird game though. Has any1 tried pips out for Cpen or Jpen?

I suppose it is used for twiddling and not RPB

I use Jpen with RPB. Violin Jpen round head.

On a side note I play cpen and have modified my grip as mentioned in an earlier post with cork on the FH which I would recommend to anyone who doesn't mind the bit of extra width. You can order natural cork sheets in 1/16" pretty easily and may even be able to find thinner cuts if you look. Very comfy and improves grip instantly.

I've also always had trouble with developing painful calluses on the knuckles of my middle finger since I don't like the bh rubber going all the way to the handle (I guess I sweat a lot and the rubber gets slick). So recently fixed this by attaching a piece of cork to the sponge of a rubber. All the cush of rubber + all the grip of cork = beautiful painfree play

Just though I'd share that in case anyone has middle finger pain like I did .

saif wrote: If you watch the world vs Korea exhibition matchin YT, where Ryu tried to RPB against Wang Hao out of fun. No use though, ball goes at the base of the net.

ohhh... did he use 2 rubbers?

Totoro wrote: J-pen is not as suitable as C-pen for RPB purely because the grip is more suited to blocking. Jpen could use RPB, but it would never be as effective as a Cpen RPB.

yeah, but that all depends on the shape of the handle.

actually, a friend of mine was playing with a two-sided j-pen handle (a nittaku sanalion, i believe) for a while.  he loved the handle, but didn't like the actual blade.

i think the main problem is that most j-pen players are not ready to adapt to the additional weight.  but also, there aren't that many (good) 2-sided j-pen blades out there either.

It is...highly unlikely that Ryu is using RPB.

J-pen is not as suitable as C-pen for RPB purely because the grip is more suited to blocking. Jpen could use RPB, but it would never be as effective as a Cpen RPB.

Some people put pips out for RPB Jpen to counter those spinny serves you sometimes get. Especially useful, but this would not be used at an international level.

Currently, I am using the J-Pen with Mendo MP 2.2 mm FH and Bryce 2.1 mm BH.  I like the combination but I feel the Bryc have to be at the FH for extra kick. Mendo MP is a bit slow for FH but has good kick on the spin side unlike Bryce which is average in spinning department but a monster in speed at mid distance and counter rallies. No wonder its the favorite of current World Class Players and even Wang Hao? or Ma Lin? uses it in their RPB.

cuz they're stubborn and they don't wanna change.

cpen players are faced with the same weight problem, but a lot of them have made the switch anyway, probably because they have examples of top players to follow.

so, you probably won't see jpen players doing it either until they see a top player do it first...

Hataw Na wrote: If you like Wang Hao's consistent RPB, then J-Pen is for you. But for Ma Lin's style, stick to C-Pen. Hataw Na

Hmm.... interesting.....

so what blade are u using?

BrunodeDanann wrote: I've tried to do some experiences with rpb on my cypress and i haven't like the results. I found it too heavy, the mobility was bad, and the amazing feel from the blade changed. I make up my mind RPB just on Cpen.

What's the weight of your cypress? Cypress S? How abt the overall weight with rubbers?

The way you hold a Jpen detracts from the RPB. To get the most out of a two sided penhold attack, you have to be able to change the angle of the blade. Since the hook locks your hand in place, its probably not such a good idea to do RPB with a traditional Jpen.

could anyone compare the followings?....

- J-Speed 90 Reverse
- Nittaku VIOLIN P-H or R-H
- Nittaku WOLFEED P-H or R-H
- Nittaku EXPERT-H,
- kokutaku LASER CARBON PRECIOUS ROTARY

in terms of wood hardness, speed, weight, thickness, comfort of grip and suitability for RBH...

i use Nittaku Excelity (78-79 g) and i dont find using that as RPB too heavy. I think the blade itself is pretty light and I also have a pretty strong wrist because of bboying so I didn't really find it heavy on my wrist. I have a friend i play against who uses cpen rpb and I tried using his paddle for awhile. To me, it feels like cpen has more feeling of control to it when looping than jpen rpb. I'm not too sure if I am correct but I think it might have to do with the thickness.

I think there really isn't a disadvantage to it once you get used to jpen rpb though.

I've tried to do some experiences with rpb on my cypress and i haven't like the results.
I found it too heavy, the mobility was bad, and the amazing feel from the blade changed.

I make up my mind RPB just on Cpen.