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vanjr
Gold Member Joined: 08/19/2004 Location: Corpus Christi Status: Offline Points: 1368 |
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https://goo.gl/photos/kK7Cfw2NdeN45Gbz8
Sanwei h10 are in from eacheng. Both weigh an almost identical, but hefty 109.9 grams on digital scale. Edited by vanjr - 03/04/2016 at 10:27am |
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zeroencore
Member Joined: 09/11/2010 Location: Hong Kong Status: Offline Points: 93 |
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Newly added collection:
Cypress Special (Taiwan Edition) |
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Nasche
Super Member Joined: 04/15/2016 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 155 |
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About 22 years old BTY Cypress 9.1mm 135g with M1 max. |
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jpenmaster
Platinum Member Joined: 12/24/2008 Location: Chicago Status: Offline Points: 2176 |
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OSP Expert II w DNA Dragon Grip
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penholderxxx
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Hi,
All are very beautiful blades bur I am very impressed with the Darker blades. Darker seems to be able to cut their wood in such a manner that their blades have a higher level of beauty; esp the eyes on the side. They show quite high degree of symmetry for both eyes; slightly elongated oval, very alluring. When I bought my S 90 Jpen, I thought I had such a pretty blade that I decided not to play with it. But what beautiful eyes I see on the Darker Jpen posted by Jpenmaster. Bold dark tight lines, even for both eyes we can observe that the lines are still very close together, beautiful. I wonder if this is a custom order. And I see there are three Darker boxes. penholderxxx
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edgy
Member Joined: 09/21/2016 Location: Down Town Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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Hello single ply hinoki club. I have a question for you all. My friend has a Butterfly Senkoh FT-S singlet ply hinoki jpen but I can't find any stats on it. Ttdb has no reviews or stats other than weight: http://www.tabletennisdb.com/blade/butterfly-senkoh-ft-s.html
Does anyone have any info on this blade (e.g., speed rating, control rating, etc.) or what other blades it might be similar to? Thanks! |
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Ladon1997
Super Member Joined: 05/08/2016 Location: Lansing Square Status: Offline Points: 278 |
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Founder passed away , only the older version appears such beauty . Darker 90 now a legend to own , especially FL and CP .
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jpenmaster
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tiehwen
Premier Member Joined: 11/22/2006 Location: Bukan Bumiputra Status: Offline Points: 6434 |
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what so special about this Cypress JPI-S?
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jpenmaster
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I rarely see any heavy figuring on Butterfly jpens.
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tiehwen
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Oh yeah...I see what you meant.
It's a gem eh? Wonder how it plays. |
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aeoliah
Premier Member Joined: 11/18/2005 Location: Indonesia Status: Offline Points: 3215 |
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Sorry, I don't get it. Who passed away ? |
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Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club
Viscaria Super ALC C-Pen Rasanter C48 |
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Kolev
Gold Member Joined: 10/04/2004 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 1529 |
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I still enjoy playing from time to time with my precious Senkoh 90(78g). Dressed with a hot rodded Tau and a Barracuda BS it is the most versatile blade I've had so far.I had two Senkoh 90 ,but broke one and then offered it to a good friend who helped me to glue it and fell in love with it......
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Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3)
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BrunodeDanann
Super Member Joined: 11/12/2007 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 278 |
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Need to take pictures of my Hinoki single Ply collection
Nittaku AA Nittaku Unnamed Butterfly Cypress 2013 (new) Butterfly Cypress 10mm Butterfly KTS red label Xiom Athena
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Harimoto ALC
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rocketman222
Gold Member Joined: 01/06/2007 Location: Walnut Creek,CA Status: Offline Points: 1152 |
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Single ply by BBC with carbon fiber protection on the edges
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shinshiro
Super Member Joined: 09/21/2016 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 243 |
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That's awesome! The carbon fiber came with the blade or you put it later? If it's the second option, do you have pics without it? I would like how are the grains of charlies 1 ply Edited: judging by the handle, the grains looks little inclined but very tight!
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rocketman222
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Actually the carbon fiber protection came with the blade, i really don't know how to apply that on the wood, its charlie's trade secret! here's a picture of the grain, i forgot to put this pic, its part of the full set of images for this blade, you can see them at http://imgur.com/a/RmZEW Edited by rocketman222 - 01/17/2017 at 12:26am |
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Chairman Meow
Super Member Joined: 10/04/2016 Location: Hell, Michigan Status: Offline Points: 290 |
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I have a few of Charlie's single ply blades. I have pictures of two of them at the link below. One does not have the tape on the edges. I hope the pictures are satisfactory, I am no good when it comes to photography.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6vzFpelmLsbRGUyUFhIeXhkUDQ None of these blades came with the carbon edge tape. You may notice that the light coloured blade has a crack. I broke it once, and sent it to Charlie for fixing; he added the edge tape in the process. I protect my blades with a layer of shock absorbing rubber- it adds a lot of weight, but it makes sure the blade never gets even a small dent on the edge. I have a third one of these blades, but it is in use and has that custom edge tape on it that I don't really want to remove; it's a hassle to put back on. I have two of those dark coloured ones, and I think they are both centre cuts. I can't tell if the light one is from the centre or not. |
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-1 ply Cypress 11.5mm "The Castigator"
-H3 Prov. Blue Sponge 2.2mm 41 deg. -H3 Prov. Orange Sponge 2.1mm 37 deg |
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shinshiro
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shinshiro
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an update here
Yesterday I played for the first time with a single ply hinoki blade, a Kokutaku D-50 (previously I was using Galaxy 985). I was very curious to know how it would be, because hinoki wood is so praised by some people that it seems to have some "mystic" aura on it haha I will write some simpressions about the blade compraing with 985. It's important to say that I'm a beginner, so I don't have a very stable mechanics nor much feel for the ball and etc. It is just a beginner's point of view, so be aware that can be very imprecise / wrong.... Previous setup: Galaxy 985, 91g, about 8mm thickness, with Rasant Grip rubber Current setup: Kokutaku No.1 D-50, 83g, 9 mm thickness, with Rasant Grip rubber The first thing I noticed is how much different is the sound produced between the two. 985 has always a "TÁK" sound, and D-50 is more like "TÓF". It only "TÁKs" on faster strokes. I don't know if I was influenced by the sound, but I felt that D-50 was much softer than 985. D-50 seemed to have more dwell time. When I played with 985, it seemed that I was playing with an iron blade haha. But I don't know if I actually produced more spin with D-50. About speed, I got the impression that 985 is faster than D-50. On another hand, D-50 looks to have more gears - it seems to be slower on slow strokes, but produces good speed com faster strokes. 985 appears to be fast all the time. Since I'm not capable of doing a more detailed review, I will stop here, that's the only thing I can write =( But I hope it can be of some help (even if it's little) for other beginners that are curious to see how a hinoki blade is compared to a "regular" blade. |
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DLC1325
Silver Member Joined: 02/15/2016 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 724 |
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My official petition to the club:
I play both Jpen and Shakehand, apparently equally well. H8s are on the SOU for now but TG2 Neos are on the way for a bit lighter setup. The SOU is stiffer than the Miyabi I guess due to the shape of the head, but it still doesn't make sense to me why that is. I cannot get enough of the feel of both blades. It makes playing very enjoyable. Lovely Hinoki!
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Kolev
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Congrats.Ive always had an eye on the Miyabi and can't forgive myself that I forgot to ask about it while visiting an official distributor shop in Kuala Lumpur few weeks ago, What is the weight of yours?
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DLC1325
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The Miyabi is 80g, 9mm and the SOU is 79g, just under 8mm. Miyabi's handle is extremely comfortable especially for my larger hands.
Edited by DLC1325 - 03/02/2017 at 2:43am |
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Kolev
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Damn, I should have.....
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Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3)
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DLC1325
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I got mine from TT11 and it's still on sale right now:
http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-miyabi |
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ChichoFicho
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I have seen Cypress Max/RSM with worse grains than that KKT D50.
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Darker Speed 70
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shinshiro
Super Member Joined: 09/21/2016 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 243 |
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My new (and probably last) blade just arrived!
This is a customized 1 ply that I ordered from Kevin (American Hinoki, or AHinoki as he is known here). I asked him to make an asymmetrical blade shape near the handle because I want to do RBP with a Jpen (please note that I'm left handed). With a normal shape Jpen RBP is very unconfortable because you can't angle the blade very much since the index finger blocks it. I also asked him to make a very light blade, under 70g. And he did it at 64g!! Super light for a 1 ply!! Due to low weight, he rated this blade as ALL (wich is perfect for me since I'm a beginner) Unfortunately I can't test it because my rubbers haven't arrived yet, it will probably take some weeks . This was my first customized blade and I'm very happy with the result (tough haven't played yet). I recommend Kevin!
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DLC1325
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Very nice, shinshiro. This looks a lot like the first Jpen I had (Yinhe 989) where I sanded the index finger shoulder really deep like this. Very nice for RPB and so comfortable. I think I like 9mm the best as you can tell from the two Miyabis in my signature, and I've been considering contacting Kevin to talk about designs.
Do a lot of people question you about doing RPB on a 9mm Jpen blade? I get it all the time as if its physically impossible. I just have to show them the power after their doubting.
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shinshiro
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I think just a few of them noticed that I was with a backhand rubber (I started using this blade only last week because I was waiting for the rubbers to arrive). My training partner said that I was getting used quite quick with RBP (I have never done this before), but I told him some weeks before that I was planing on trying this, so he was not surprised. But I'm almost sure that when I get to play with more experienced people, they will get a little suprised with Jpen RPB Here is a new pic of my blade, now with rubbers, but I want to show the edges of the blade. I have put some layers of epoxy resin to protect the wood (suggested by Kevin from American Hinoki), since I've heard that Hinoki is very fragile and I don't want to split it in half if I hit the table.... I think the result is prety nice since I had no experience working with any kind of resin before. Of course there are some defects (I could not make the resin to be 100% uniform, as you can see some salience near "WRC" for example), but for my total amateur skills I'm very satisfied with the result
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DLC1325
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It looks very nice!
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