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    Posted: 03/27/2011 at 5:38am
Just found a great article comparing the different tenergy types. Can't post as a link due to the quotation marks in the address.

http://web.me.com/igsstern/tabletennis/Rubber_DB/Entries/2010/9/15_The_difference_between_"05_type"_and_"64_type".html
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Originally posted by ThaiLe ThaiLe wrote:

I got 4 pcs of Tenergy 64 and all in 2.1 mm thickness within 15 days from the day I place the order.  So far, my friends and I did not have any problem ordering from Dandoy.  Knock on wood...Big%20smile
 
How come I can only see an option for 1.7 Cry
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I got 4 pcs of Tenergy 64 and all in 2.1 mm thickness within 15 days from the day I place the order.  So far, my friends and I did not have any problem ordering from Dandoy.  Knock on wood...Big%20smile
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that sucks... was it a t64? by any chance? :D

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mate i ordered 2.1 5 months ago and they sent me 1.9.  I am still waiting for this to be resolved!
 
 
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Ok, I have a question that maybe one of you guys can answer since i have seen that a few people purchase from dandoy-sports.  The T64 shows only an option for a 1.7mm sponge but the picture shows it as a 1.9
 
Possibly a typo? has anybody bought the t64 from dandoy-sports before?
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BCX5 paired with T05 1.9 (or T64 1.9) sounds like a great combo.

I used BCX5 for 1.5 years and I liked it a lot. Its soft feel and carbon layers create loops that will fall out of the sky with topspin. Paired with Tenergy you will have fearsome loops.

The handle is sealed by the manufacturer and its very comfortable. It won't have the feeling of slipping out.

The core layer of Balsa is obviously fragile, but its ok if you are careful and use edge tape. (If you are hard on your equipment, then you might find BCX5 too fragile.)



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Thanks guys for all your advice. You have all been a lot of help in my decision making. I have one last question, almost a repeat question.

Does anybody have any objections towards the BalsaCarbo X5? Is this a good blade?
 
The reason why I like it is because i like the color of the blade... I know it is probably a dumb reason to favor the blade for its color,but I like dark handles. I would like one that has good reviews, looks stylish, and cost efficient.
 
I wanna place an order today so it can be processed first thing Monday morning :D
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Originally posted by bmw328i bmw328i wrote:

Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

I would add this from my personal Tenergy experience: T05 works great with medium/ soft blades while T64 works great with hard (stiff) blades. T05 and T64 are slightly same rubbers (same characteristic) with only difference 'different working with blade hardness'.
 
so would you recommend mixing the two rubbers on a blade or match BH and FH with same rubber?
 
I love playing with the Tenergy 05 2.1mm on my FH on a Michael Maze blade.  I can pretty much do anything I want with this combo on my FH such as fast loop kill, slower spinny loops, reloop, block, push, get good spin on serves.  Still working on FH flipping short underspin serves to my FH, but that's more of a stroke shortcoming, not an issue with Tenergy 05. 
 
On the other hand, I cannot control the same rubber the same way on my BH when I twiddle the racket.  I find it too fast.  Its OK for a couple of shots, but could not play with it 100% of time on BH.  I play long pips on BH. 
 
Others on this forum have posted that T64 with its softer feel is more of a BH rubber.  I haven't played with T64, but this sounds right.
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how does a BaslaCarbo x5 sound with a T05 1.9mm (FH) and a T64 1.9mm(BH)
 
I kinda like the idea of mixing the two.
 
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A mix of incoming spin always makes it harder for your opponent in quick no time to think rallies

2 different rubbers is always more effective.  You just need time to adjust to getting the right stroke on both sides.  But I would have the heavier rubber on forehand so as to give the blade a slight tilt to your stronger side

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Originally posted by bmw328i bmw328i wrote:

Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

I would add this from my personal Tenergy experience: T05 works great with medium/ soft blades while T64 works great with hard (stiff) blades. T05 and T64 are slightly same rubbers (same characteristic) with only difference 'different working with blade hardness'.
 
so would you recommend mixing the two rubbers on a blade or match BH and FH with same rubber?
 
My opinion: match BH and FH with same rubber.
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i just found that u can get t64 2.1 from teessport.com
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Originally posted by Master_of_loops Master_of_loops wrote:

I would add this from my personal Tenergy experience: T05 works great with medium/ soft blades while T64 works great with hard (stiff) blades. T05 and T64 are slightly same rubbers (same characteristic) with only difference 'different working with blade hardness'.
 
so would you recommend mixing the two rubbers on a blade or match BH and FH with same rubber?
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I would add this from my personal Tenergy experience: T05 works great with medium/ soft blades while T64 works great with hard (stiff) blades. T05 and T64 are slightly same rubbers (same characteristic) with only difference 'different working with blade hardness'.
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Ok, well Dandoy only carried the t64 in 1.7 would be nice to have at least a 1.9.. where can i get a 1.9 or 2.1 a good price like Dandoy?

I dont know what my playing level is but I have played this sport for about 10+ years. So I know what I am doing and can easily adapt to a new blade.
 
I am somewhat of an all around player, but have recently changed my playing style and leaning more towards the aggressive type of player. I like to play about mid range to close to table. I do not have a really good blade right now. It is just some cheap one that I've been playing with from butterfly.
 
Now I'm looking into buying a blade that better suites me. Also I am interested in the Tenergy, eventhough I have never used any of the Tenergy rubbers.
 
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I'm using Tenergy 05 on the TriCarbon and I like it sooo much, it's amazing. Very speedy, but there is also spin because of the tenergy surface. Very good !

I'm from Europe, so I don't know what my rating would be ^^ but I think it is quite usefull for aggressiv players topspinning from both wings.

I changed from my BTY Korbel SK7 to the TriCarbon, which gives much more speed, but the feeling is also quite good. I expected less feeling, because of the carbon and the 9 plys, but it works excellent. Korbel though is pure feeling because of the 7 wood-plys.

Some people also said, the TriCarbon is way too heavy. Don't listen to them, mine is very light, around 87g, and I like it. There is no problem using heavy rubbers as Tenergy as well.

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Originally posted by bmw328i bmw328i wrote:

Hey guys,



I'm new to this site and I just read this entire post to catch up with the conversation. I was actually getting ready to purchase a new blade and rubber but wasnt sure what�I was gonna get. I knew that I wanted the tenergy 64, but after reading this post I think that i am going to go with both the t05(FH) and the t64(BH)

I had a couple of questions before I made a commitment.


1) For my forehand I was thinking about getting the Tenergy 05 2.1mm and a Tenergy 64 1.7mm on my back hand. Now for my�question:


--Is the 1.7mm the only size of sponge I can get? and is that a good size sponge for the T64?� --That was the only size available on Dandoy




2) What is a good blade for this combination. I was thinking about the BalsaCarbo x5 or maybe even the Boll TriCarbon.


--Are either one of these blades good to use for the combination of rubbers?



Anxiously waiting for a reply Big%20smileThanks in advance...


You're trying Tenergy for the first time w/ Boll Tri Carbon ? Get ready to lose all your confidence. Unless you are 2000+ rated player, this combo is way too fast. Most pro's probably wouldn't even touch this combo.

BCX5 will work well with Tenergy but it might be a little mushy with 2.1 T05 since its such a soft blade. Maybe go with 1.9 if you're using a soft blade like BCX5...

You are looking at Boll Tricarbon and BCX5, but those paddles are very far apart on the scales of speed and feel. Maybe try something in between. e.g. Timo Boll Spirit, Viscaria, or a Kevlar/Arylate Carbon knockoff by Galaxy...

T64 @ 1.7 is more of a specialty rubber, for someone who knows they want 1.7 and knows about the high-end characteristics of T64. If you don't know if you need 1.7 or not, and have never tried Tenergy, that probably means you don't need it.

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bmw, t64 comes in 2.1 & 1.9 from what I ve seen,
 
If you loop you need more sponge if you hit you dont.
 
if you like control for with less spin and speed than less sponge
 
i strongly suggest you stay away from tricarbon unless you are super strong and you just want to smash everything into the back wall instead of onto the table
 
what your playing level or how long have you played?
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Hey guys,

I'm new to this site and I just read this entire post to catch up with the conversation. I was actually getting ready to purchase a new blade and rubber but wasnt sure what I was gonna get. I knew that I wanted the tenergy 64, but after reading this post I think that i am going to go with both the t05(FH) and the t64(BH)
 
I had a couple of questions before I made a commitment.
 
1) For my forehand I was thinking about getting the Tenergy 05 2.1mm and a Tenergy 64 1.7mm on my back hand. Now for my question:
 
--Is the 1.7mm the only size of sponge I can get? and is that a good size sponge for the T64?  --That was the only size available on Dandoy
 
 
 
2) What is a good blade for this combination. I was thinking about the BalsaCarbo x5 or maybe even the Boll TriCarbon.
 
--Are either one of these blades good to use for the combination of rubbers?
 
 
Anxiously waiting for a reply Big%20smile
Thanks in advance...
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I wonder if Wang Hao or Ma Lin would switch to Tenergy :)
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Thing is, I used to just loop him off the table as in the spin was too much, maybe its the carbon that has reduced the spin.
 
oh when I go for middle, he does real weird backhand off the bounce shot that doesnt exist in the books on how to play.. looks so stupid its effective in confusing me
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Food is good!

SP players often have trouble blocking side spin loops. If you are able to deliver them with consistency it would be worth trying. Good arc and deep, try to jam him a bit. If he can't handle it he might lose concentration and confidence.
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well the ishlion is carbon and the lightest of my butterfly blades.  Since I decided to stick with it I tried Andro super core carbon 70g. 
 
Use it for a while and  then Ishlion doesnt feel hard or light.
 
control dood had short pips on backhand, always at the table and slow spinny loops which are hard to counter since they only just clear the end of the table. 
 
Anyway he won the turkey, I got a frozen chicken!
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ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss... sweet!

Yeah, I am sometimes bothered by the weight of carbon blades mounted with Tenergy. But I am also bothered by those control doods.
I think the control doods bother me more than weight!
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I'm with ibupro!
 
I like Tenergy 05 on carbon, I get a super sharp stinging straight line when I loop harder into the blade.  Thats the best aliteration I can think of ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
 
I'm not happy to say that last night I lost the handicap final mostly because I couldn't hit past this control dood.  He kept blocking me. 
 
AAAAAAh  I don't want to go back to a faster (heavier) blade again! 
I don't get blocked mostly when I use my gergely 21, but I get to the ball so much less...  Oh well, maybe 64 will offer a solution with a bit more speed?
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i've been hearing very good reviews about 25 from table tennis contacts. much better control than 05. the general theme is that 25 might have marginally less power in drives than 05 but relatively much easier to make spin variations during loops. 25 seems to be designed as a FH rubber while 05 lends itself more to the BH, and this is esp. the case for chinese penholders who excel in top-of-the table close-up work.
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I just got my T25 and Renanos Bright Hard. The pips on T25 are huge!! Too bad I have to wait for a new blade and free chack still.
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How do u guys think tenergy 64 or 05 will go on yasaka ma lin carbon or soft carbon, NOTE: that this is for Cpen and traditional style to like with only 1 sided rubber so i will not glue a rubber onto the other side saves money and i wont use it anywayz
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It's written that 64 to be out in dec and 25 to be out in 2009
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