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Posted: 11/10/2008 at 11:26am |
I heard in Europe it's in January 2009...
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Posted: 11/10/2008 at 11:30am |
in romania is Sriver G3(FX) is here from the start of these month !!but i hope the tenergy 25 and 64 to be here fast!
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 4:13am |
this tenergy 64 seems great. Hope it will be indeed released in january.
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 6:21am |
NoFootwork wrote:
Thanks Kolev for the feedback on the T64. Compared to T05, did you find it better to loop against backspin, counterloop, push, block, serve. What is the throw angle like.
Sounds like BTY wants to milk us for as much money as possible for each of the Tenergys. What's the T25 all about? How does that play compared to T05 or T64. When is the release date of T64? |
I haven't tried T05 on my blade(I don't like T05 for it's weight), but on Mazunov I had a hit with both.Whoever tested it found that: T64 was softer T64 was lighter T64 a was faster T64 was easier to counterloop Because of the softer sponge, for me personally. was easier to loop against backspin. Still, it is not at all a soft rubber. Due to the speed seems easier to block as well. Push and serve......hmmm...I don't think one was worse than the other, just different. I also would like to add that the 05 was boosted
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Kolev
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 6:22am |
BTW I will ask for a T25 as well... .....but, who knows
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 10:55am |
Thanks for the feedback Kolev. T64 sounds like it plays better than boosted T05. Does the T64 generate more spin as well or is it the same amount of spin, but faster? Is the throw angle lower compared to T05?
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 2:32pm |
i thought boosting t05 destroys it
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 2:35pm |
NoFootwork wrote:
Thanks for the feedback Kolev. T64 sounds like it plays better than boosted T05. Does the T64 generate more spin as well or is it the same amount of spin, but faster? Is the throw angle lower compared to T05? |
No I wouldn't say better, different yes Since it's a bit faster, I guess the throw is a bit lower. the spin....well this is very personal, but for me is easier with the 64 since it is a bit softer
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 2:38pm |
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i thought boosting t05 destroys it
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I am not sure, most probably not , but all the pros are doing it.Even the first T64 I had it was already boosted
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 5:25pm |
Kolev wrote:
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i thought boosting t05 destroys it
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I am not sure, most probably not , but all the pros are doing it.Even the first T64 I had it was already boosted
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It doesn't ruin it. I'm playing with a slightly boosted T05. I tried comparing a brand new sheet, which was very rigid and hard ... to a sheet glued up with few layers Stiga Victory glue. Dome? Check! slapped it on. Conclusion: Loss of some speed. More crisp feeling, great contact. Much better for short game. Throw seems a bit higher, and i'm having a liiiitle trouble adjusting, but overall i think it'll be better for my game.
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Posted: 11/11/2008 at 7:57pm |
NoFootwork wrote:
Thanks Kolev for the feedback on the T64. Compared to T05, did you find it better to loop against backspin, counterloop, push, block, serve. What is the throw angle like.
Sounds like BTY wants to milk us for as much money as possible for each of the Tenergys. What's the T25 all about? How does that play compared to T05 or T64. When is the release date of T64? |
yeh you re right about bty, the same BS like when they said about the 2 versions :sriver FX (flexible) and sriver FX ELastic
its a new marketing technology developed by bty since 10 years ago for pullling more $ from you.
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Posted: 11/12/2008 at 1:53am |
Kolev wrote:
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i thought boosting t05 destroys it |
I am not sure, most probably not , but all the pros are doing it.Even the first T64 I had it was already boosted
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High Performance for a Topspin Attacking Strategy
"Spring Sponge" is the latest innovation from BUTTERFLY. It is the sponge of the coming era. The well-known High Tension technology of BUTTERFLY is now combined with "Spring Sponge" to produce a new rubber family: TENERGY.
TENERGY 05 is the first family member; the special feature being in the original shape of the pimples. The product carries our development code No. 05 and merges High Tension technology with the characteristics of a highly grippy rubber.
TENERGY 05 has already been evaluated by a large number of leading players, as well as by scientific measurement, as the best rubber for spinning the ball, both when serving and during a rally.
Do you look for a high quality rubber for your topspin and attack strategy? Then TENERGY 05 is the right answer. | | Kolev, do you have any comparision here b/w T05 and T64 with speed, spin and sponge?
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Posted: 11/12/2008 at 8:19pm |
Not in figures.I've post some impression earlier in this topic
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Posted: 11/13/2008 at 2:19am |
Ok now that we know what T64 is supposed to be compared to 05, what is T25 supposed to be?
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Posted: 11/13/2008 at 2:29am |
I heard thet 25 is the almost the same as 05 just with bigger pimples.
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Posted: 11/14/2008 at 1:17pm |
Almost all the players supported by Butterfly use 05 or 64 !! No one use 25. http://www.butterfly.co.jp/players/
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Posted: 11/15/2008 at 12:22am |
Butterflyonline has started advertising 25 in the latest USATT magazine. It is, of course, slightly faster and slightly less spiny than 05. I knew this from before, but I haven't seen Butterfly's official numbers for 64 or, for that matter, the expected release date.
Does anyone know the speed, spin, and density ratings for 64? And do they know the Japanese and European release dates?
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Posted: 11/15/2008 at 2:23am |
Anyone know Japanese please help for Tenergy 25?
Ithink speed 13.25, spin 11?
テナジー・25
前陣攻守においての性能に優れた『テナジー』 2008年11月21日発売 �開発コードNo.25�のツブ形状は、多くの選手による試打と機械計測から「前陣攻守において最も力を発揮する」と評価されたもの。これを採用した『テナジー・25』は、台上プレーにおけるスピンやカウンタープレーにおけるスピードに、最も優れた性能を発揮します。前~中陣での攻撃的なプレーにおいて、これまでにない回転性能と攻撃力を発揮するラバーです。 ≫テナジー・シリーズの性能 ([テナジー・25の特性] [テナジー・05の特性]) 商品価格\6,300(税込) 品番 : 05810 ★本製品をラケットに張る際は、『フリー・チャック』をご使用ください ★本製品は大変デリケートにできており、表面は大変傷つきやすくなっております。 ラバーを保護するため、ご使用後は必ず『カラーフィルムRB』などで表面をガードしてください
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Posted: 11/15/2008 at 4:03am |
หัวข้อ : Tenergy64 picture from women worldcup at malasia ข้อความ : lixao
ชื่อรูป:102906795.jpg กว้างxยาว:600x418 pixel รูปถูกย่อขนาด:ดูรูปต้นฉบับ ขนาดไฟล์:53745 ไบท์ จาก : chain_05 - - [email protected] - 18/09/08 18:12:01 |
ข้อความ : แก้ไขเป็น Malaysia
ชื่อรูป:102906796.jpg กว้างxยาว:463x324 pixel รูปถูกย่อขนาด:ดูรูปต้นฉบับ ขนาดไฟล์:25847 ไบท์ จาก : chain_05 - - [email protected] - 18/09/08 18:13:09 |
ข้อความ : 3
ชื่อรูป:102906788.jpg กว้างxยาว:612x414 pixel รูปถูกย่อขนาด:ดูรูปต้นฉบับ ขนาดไฟล์:40085 ไบท์ จาก : chain_05 - - [email protected] - 18/09/08 18:13:30 |
ข้อความ : 4
ชื่อรูป:102906787.jpg กว้างxยาว:600x400 pixel รูปถูกย่อขนาด:ดูรูปต้นฉบับ ขนาดไฟล์:39260 ไบท์ จาก : chain_05 - - [email protected] - 18/09/08 18:25:34 |
ข้อความ : ข้อมูลของยางมีไหมครับ จะมาวางขายเมื่อไหร่ครับ Tenergy 05 ผมว่าน้ำหนักมากไปนิด(2.1)ยางแข็งไปหน่อย(เอามาแบ็ค) ถ้าได้ Hardness : 33° - 34° คงจะดี Tenergy 05 ฟองน้ำสีแดงสุดยอดเลยครับ เวลาลอกกาว แค่เอานิ้วถูๆก็ออกหมดแล้วครับ(กาว Fair Chack) ทำให้ง่ายเวลาถอดยางไปลองกับไม้อื่นๆ ไม่มีกาวสะสมดีจริงๆเลยครับ ขอบคุณครับ
จาก : noprat - - [email protected] - 18/09/08 19:42:08 |
ข้อความ : Tenergy 25 coming 2008.11.21
ชื่อรูป:item1863p2-1.jpg กว้างxยาว:400x400 pixel รูปถูกย่อขนาด:ดูรูปต้นฉบับ ขนาดไฟล์:15978 ไบท์ จาก : chain_05 - - [email protected] - 19/09/08 12:54:07 |
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Posted: 11/15/2008 at 4:32am |
It was superior in efficiency in position attack Mori of [tenaji] 25 ago 'as for [tsubu] form of [tenaji]' 2008 November 21st sale �development cord/code No.25�, �those which are appraised that most power is shown from test hitting and the machine measurement by many players in front position attack Mori�. In the spin to which adopted this '[tenaji] 25' in bench top playing and the speed in counter playing, the efficiency which most is superior is shown. With position in the front ~ the rotary efficiency which so far is not at the time of attack playing, and the rubber which shows attack power it is. Efficiency of ≫ [tenaji] series ([quality of [tenaji] 25] [quality of [tenaji] 05]) Commodity price \ 6,300 (including tax) item turn: 05810 * The case where this product is stretched on the racket, 'please use the free chuck' * This product makes very much delicate, the surface has become easy to be hurt very much. In order to protect the rubber, after use by all means 'with color film RB' and so on please guard the surface
speed 13.25 spin 11 hardeness 36
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Posted: 11/15/2008 at 8:18am |
wit453 wrote:
It was superior in efficiency in position attack Mori of [tenaji] 25 ago 'as for [tsubu] form of [tenaji]' 2008 November 21st sale �development cord/code No.25�, �those which are appraised that most power is shown from test hitting and the machine measurement by many players in front position attack Mori�. In the spin to which adopted this '[tenaji] 25' in bench top playing and the speed in counter playing, the efficiency which most is superior is shown. With position in the front ~ the rotary efficiency which so far is not at the time of attack playing, and the rubber which shows attack power it is. Efficiency of ≫ [tenaji] series ([quality of [tenaji] 25] [quality of [tenaji] 05]) Commodity price \ 6,300 (including tax) item turn: 05810 * The case where this product is stretched on the racket, 'please use the free chuck' * This product makes very much delicate, the surface has become easy to be hurt very much. In order to protect the rubber, after use by all means 'with color film RB' and so on please guard the surface
speed 13.25 spin 11 hardeness 36 |
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Posted: 11/15/2008 at 2:18pm |
Yes, we all know about 25. What about 64?
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Posted: 12/05/2008 at 5:02am |
how much does tenergy 25 weigh?
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Dynaryz AGR /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Dynaryz AGR
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 12:29am |
goldfish wrote:
I think Tenergy 05 best fits wood blades especially 5 ply wood looper's blades. I tried it with Yasaka extra two weeks ago, and found it perfect. I have not used another blade since then. |
I'm a looper and I've tried tenergy on a 5 & 7 ply Hinoki and I hated it. It's too dwelly.
I find it needs a bit of that carbon final high pitched click to reward you for penetrating all the way through the heavy sponge and kick the ball forward instead of up or too short.
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 12:35am |
why do people cut there rubbers over the edge? It really bugs me if its sticking over even a tiny bit... and its heavier and possibly illegal and if you hit the side you rip the rubber off
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 12:52am |
Well i know its illegal for sure because i just playd in the 1st annual
friendship tournament in vancouver and went to quarter-finals and they
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 1:18am |
bozbrisvegas wrote:
goldfish wrote:
I think Tenergy 05 best fits wood blades especially 5 ply wood looper's blades. I tried it with Yasaka extra two weeks ago, and found it perfect. I have not used another blade since then. |
I'm a looper and I've tried tenergy on a 5 & 7 ply Hinoki and I hated it. It's too dwelly.
I find it needs a bit of that carbon final high pitched click to reward you for penetrating all the way through the heavy sponge and kick the ball forward instead of up or too short.
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What about control and short games with the carbon setup?
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Posted: 12/06/2008 at 1:37am |
Ishlion is carbon and it is fast but not super fast and it blocks a perfect length on the table and the lightness makes it perfect for the short game and the hardness reduces the over the top spin you have to deal with when receiveing tons of spin on service for example.
my pushing has improved a hell of a lot since i first used tenergy and even more since i started using the ishlion.
The wood blades are glugy marshmellow in my mind
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