Tenergy 64 is overrated and overpriced (1day test)

lol, well I never commented on 05 only 64

I didn't try 25, but 05 and 64 are the best new-tech rubbers out there. Each does what it's meant to do, nearly just as Butterfly describes them. They don't have durability issues, even T64 has better spin than Tensors. Both have very nice grippy topsheets. However I think they should be used by well trained players (unlike me). If not, facing control problems is very likely.

ffx-me wrote: Again tenergy is a manifestation of people who are blinded and only want to play with butterfly since they say butterfly is the best.  So they don't shop around in the market to try tensors or rubbers from other companies and just "choose butterfly"

  05 is a unique rubber, 64 is like any other medium-soft, fast and spinny rubber.  it feels spinnier than it really is also.

nicefrog wrote: Although I haven't tried Tenergy (because I don't think it will be any better than what I have) . But I think it's worth a mention that Globe 999 is about the highest throw rubber you can get and I read that Tenergy is very low throw.

 
    Tenergy, especially 05 but also 64, is most definitely not " very low throw".   05 is high compared to anything but tacky rubbers and 64 is medium.  25 is supposed to be the lowest but I haven't tried it.

Now that I'm no longer working for Butterfly and started my own company I can give my personal opinion since I'm just like you guys now.

Tenergy 05 is not hype, I tried it last year and both reviews were real. I got Tenergy 25 last year as a parting gift from one of the workers at Butterfly, and I only put it on my racket as a spare for the Baltimore Teams.

I was thinking that I would use Tenergy 25 for the Nationals, NOT! The pips are way too big (Think goose bumps on a turkey).   What made it even worst was the pips were so spread out that too much of my power was lost at the point of contact. I said on my youtube account that I think Tenergy 25 is for choopers and I'm sticking to that

I didnt' find Tenergy 64 to be much different than 05 even though they say that some of the characteristics are better.

I have started beta testing equipment from other companies, and I'm going to sit in the middle and give my person and professional opinion. Check www.dynamictabletennis.com, to hear unbiased opinions from top players and coaches about equipment.

I was locked into only giving my professional opinion when I was a worker for Butterfly, but now I can give you my personal opinion

Trust me, I've got something to say. Oh yeah, Butterfly equipment is way, way, WAY overpriced.

Take Care Pongers.

Pacer

Brian Pace wrote: Oh yeah, Butterfly equipment is way, way, WAY overpriced. Take Care Pongers. Pacer

Coming from you Brian, I love hearing that. You know it's true when the employees(ex-employee in your case) realize how ridiculous some of their prices are.

But honestly, tenergy now is getting to be more affordable. At first it was ridiculous at like 60-65 a sheet. But anymore it is about the same as all of the other new generation rubbers out their. You honestly can't blame the companies, I mean, that is business. They know we need the rubber, they know we will buy them, so why not make a killing?

cheaper in japan is one thing.

thats the real bryan pace! cool dood. You are a funny guy and if this aint no hoax as I dont think it is its great to finally see your here saying it like it is. 

+1

I have been trying T64 on the FH for more than a month now and I have been struggling, thinking about going for Boost TC to get forgiven more on some mistakes.
Some days I play VERY good with it and I want to keep it. Some days really bad and I want to get rid of it.
The truth is it's so powerful it needs good form and strong follow through and when I can position myself it becomes the best weapon.
It's not a rubber for half through strokes. One need to go all the way to perform, unlike a rubber with softer sponge.
So this rubber forces me to play the way I want to play and so I like it.
But as soon as I get lazy a little bit the punishment comes under the form of ugly balls that the opponent kills when I did not miss in the 1st place.
That's it! get to work baby! move your behind to position and go strong on all your followed through strokes. That's what I tell myself to play right with Tenergy (64 on my case) rubbers on the FH.

speed is not such a simplistic thing as putting a rubber on it and it being fast.

FFX, I tried out a friend's racket with 05 and 64 on a Nittaku OFF blade.

Im still struggling with the right bh rubber.  I know the best is t05 but my arm hates the weight. 

Butterfly spend lots on their R&D to produce the Tenergy Series...

what is overpriced is haifu BW III...
haifu is just using others and put them together...I will not complain if it is cheap...hahahahah

beeray1 wrote: Axio wrote: Butterfly spend lots on their R&D to produce the Tenergy Series... what is overpriced is haifu BW III... haifu is just using others and put them together...I will not complain if it is cheap...hahahahah   I agree its very overpriced, but its not that horrible. I think it outperforms tenergy (here come the arguments). I played BW3 tonight for a while. It was quite fast. It was also very spinny, but It was too fast for me to get used to enough, so the spin advantage disappeared for me, but I think that was the 4 layers of rubber cement, as my friend was able to use it later on just fine. Now, I use BW2 on a Clipper CR, a pretty fast combo, very used to it (like BPace, I'm making my full time TT comeback). Get this, I was using bw3 on an ALLAROUND blade- the Appelgren Allplay Senso V1. And It was Faster by a noticeable margin than my BW2/Clipper CR combo. But again, I dont know if that was the rubber cement or the rubber's performance. I'm gonna try it one more time this week, now that its found its home on that blade (cpen)   I would for sure play BW3 If i got it for a christmas/bday gift or somethin. But alas, it costs 70 bucks. And I'm no sucka!   BW2 is worth every penny of that 20-25 dollar price. I would pay 40 for it. I can do everything well with that Rubber, it is a part of my game now. If BW3 is a 10 performance wise, BW2 is an 8.5-9. Professionals would obviously need the boost if they were BW2 likers.. but its not something I think that we have any business buying when BW2 is 20-25 bucks. It is not 50 dollars better. Its more like 10 dollars better. BW3 belongs at a tenergy price or lower. If I'm paying this price for BW2, 3 needs to be about 40 bucks and that's good.     Now that I stopped my belly-achin and started practicing more consistently, I've learned that It's not the rubbers fault for lack of performance, it's mine. It performs just fine, I just needed to practice. So I dont think I'm going back to H3 with glue again.   speaking of which- I beat a player last night who I have never taken more than 1 game from, and it was all due to focus, concentration, moving my feet and watching the ball. That's it, nothin fancy- just fundamental stuff. I'm gonna start being more honest with myself.

Bray I really like your review...I really like the BW IIs vacuum packed...they are awesome rubbers, but I am not ready to spend that much for the BW IIIs hoohhoho...
But also there is one other problem bout the BW II...I read somewhere in the forum that those rubbers lifespan is just about 1 month? what do you think bro? if its just 1 month, the cost of the rubber will be way over the tenergy 64....
Thanks