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Thomasson 
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Aw Mr.Moon u forgot to put the value of the package on it.
I had to fill in a form now and I hope they will send it to me without any further cost. Regards |
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tompy
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Posted: 09/15/2010 at 3:26am |
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I should have put it different; I remembered you asked for a heavier one. I attended to it because you where comparing with Rawrtje without mentioning this difference. |
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Posted: 09/15/2010 at 1:58pm |
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Received mine today. (Thanx Nexy) Marked as 85 gr.
  Decent build quality. Squarish ST handle feels very good. (22.6 x 28.8mm). Thickness is ~5.7-5.8mm. Will hit with it on Friday or maybe tomorrow. |
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Nexy
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Posted: 09/15/2010 at 2:18pm |
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Sorry for the missing note on the parcel. But normally we write something helps to get no tax.
I don't know where my people put that writing on the box, maybe on the sticker of delivery information.
Any way, if it's not written there, it must me a mistake.
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kanaping
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since i own a lissom, i'll give you my impression after the 1st training.
Blade finish is nice but it would have been nice if the sharp edges near the handle were sanded (I've done it anyway). with 2 rakza7 2mm the blade balance feels a little bit head heavy but really not so much which is good for me.
First thing to say for me is that i would rate this blade as off- and not all or all+.
Blade feeling is nice. You can feel vibrations but good ones. I feel like it gives me feeback and doesn't disturb me (quite different from stiga OC wrb for instance). this feeling is different but just as pleasant as acoustic for me. I've never tried violin but i would be curious to know if it is similar.
I understand what M. Moon wanted to achieve with the blade and the result is quite good actually . The blade allows great touch near the table and have really enough power when you really go into the blade far from the table. I never felt like I did not have enough power and i regularly outspinned my oponnents. The blade allows to create massive spin even on power loops, just as if the blade is really grabing the ball.
A good suprise for me is I blocked quite well with the blade. I could block and easily direct the ball wherever i wanted with no effort. The trick here is you don't want to force too much the block otherwise the blade flexibility will make your block land too far...For short game I did not mastered it well. It is a bit bouncy and i had trouble making really short push or serves...
On the downside, due to the flexibility i made more mistakes on flat hits because i think i went too much into the wood...I made also some mistakes near the table trying to brush loop against backspin . I think for such shots you have to really brush the ball so that only the top ply is involved. As soon as you hit the ball more then the whole blade respond and the speed is too great.
This is definitly an interesting blade and i'll give it more time because this good feeling and the spin possibilities are just too great to pass on. I'll also try to compare it to my virtuoso on the next reviews I'll post.
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Posted: 09/16/2010 at 7:15am |
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Just received FL and ST Lissom today. I really amazed with it's build quality!!!
The most important thing is the handle, the FL handle is big, more like a Hking FL handle, but as big as the Hking 05 version, bigger than current Hking and Hking 655 FL handle. It's as big as Acoustic L-sized FL handle. Thanks Mr Moon for designing a big, long comfortable FL handle for us!!! The ST handle is more like Acoustic ST handle but abit boxy. The feel and vibration of Lissom is similar to Violin. But Lissom is stiffer while Violin is more flexible. Lissom is faster than Violin judge by bouncing it with tt ball. I'll post the picture tomorrow. Edited by peter79 - 09/16/2010 at 7:17am |
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Posted: 09/17/2010 at 12:37am |
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         Edited by peter79 - 09/17/2010 at 12:39am |
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Posted: 09/17/2010 at 5:47am |
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Very nice article! i also like Nexy product, it is very light ans comfort for me.
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I prefer the current Nexy box which has flat surface and it's more durable probably due to thicker paper. The previous box is like butterfly box which isn't flat.
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Posted: 09/17/2010 at 12:23pm |
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The Nexy box stands up to remailing. I have used Nexy boxes to froward a few blades accross an ocean or two. nexy box is stable. |
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Nexy
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 1:37am |
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I found out something today.
In Korea, Butterfly's price stays the same.
So, the price of one Tenergy in my nexy.com is usd 53.
Can it be attractive for the moment?
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 1:51am |
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Yes I would be interested in buying Tenergy for USD 53. But on your website it seems that once you add in the shipping to the USA it becomes significantly more. It seems like the shipping service is pretty expensive. Is there a cheaper alternative? I would not need it to arrive very quickly if I could get it for that price, and I think you could do a lot of business (but Butterfly may get upset if they find out).
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 1:54am |
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Our Club Captain/No 2 Player ordered a Tenergy through the club Coach/Owner. I told her Tenergy rose prices worldwide and what did the rubber cost? 75,000 to 80,000 Won? She said price is still in the 64,000 won range, which is low to mid $50's in USD.
Amazing. I live here in Korea and gen now get tenergy cheaper.
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Nexy
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 1:57am |
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Thank you for the interest.
At the moment, I checked all the possible ways to make the cost for delivery fee lower, and found out from Korea, I can not find something cheaper.
Actually, the service is good; safe and fast, but as you told, I hope to find cheaper, even though slower, but not possible.
If I grow bigger, then the EMS company might give me discount for delivery, but currently, this is the best I can suggest.
(By the way, from today until Friday next week, Korea celebrates big harvest festival, and I can send out all the orders on Friday or on Saturday morning only.)
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 2:03am |
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I may order some anyway, will do a quick comparison.
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 8:32am |
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Just tested Lissom for 1 hour today.
I use Scirocco SF Max on FH and Outlaw 2.2 on BH. My Lissom FL is 90 gr, Outlaw 46 gr, Scirocco is 53 gr!!!! Total setup is 189 gr, feels head heavy due to heavy Scirocco. The head size is a bit bigger than Violin L-sized about the same as Normal Violin. For Comparison I use Violin L-sized ST 87 gr with Hexer on FH and Outlaw on BH. The Difference between Violin and Lissom: Violin feels more solid although it's more flexible but harder. Lissom feels a bit hollow, not as solid as Violin but it's stiffer and softer. I feel Violin is more suitable for hitting. While Lissom is more suitable for looping. The Similarity between Violin and Lissom is the feel and vibration. Probably due to the same top ply and middle ply. Both Violin and Lissom use White ash for top ply and kiri for center ply. I'll post more impressions about Lissom later. |
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 10:26am |
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Actually, I think those two blades are quite different. First hint for that- lissom's surface is softer than violin, second hint- lissom has no kiri ply. Anyway, I think overall impression is quite similar to mine. |
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 10:43am |
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I'm wrong then  Because it really looks like Kiri, btw all wood almost look the same isn't it  Mr Moon, probably, just probably, could it be Lissom is Acoustic with Violin Feel !!! Loop as good as acoustic but has Violin Feel, that could be awsome, curious to compare it with acoustic next time. |
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Posted: 09/18/2010 at 4:32pm |
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I will try the Lissom with Black Power GCS and Armstrong Warrior on monday.
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Moving all the non-Lissom related posts to an off-topic thread. All further non-Lissom posts will be deleted.
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Posted: 09/19/2010 at 3:06pm |
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After 3 sessions (3 x ~1,5 hours) here's my review of Lissom. As I mentioned before, the build quality is pretty good. Not as good as a "made in Japan" BTY but matches or exceeds many Euro brands easily. Mine was marked as 85 gr, ST handle. Head size/shape quite similiar to 158x152 BTY head. Thickness is 5,75mm. Handle is boxy, something a square ST but maybe one or a half mm wider. I do prefer this kind handles, so it's a plus for me. Really comfortable to hold. Though it's just a bit more head heavy than my Virtuoso (87 gr). My rubbers were Baracuda Max FH and T05 FX / Vega Euro BH. Lissom does not have much vibrations but has good feel for the ball. Only "hints" of 7 ply design can be felt during gameplay (stiff feel with strong proper hits). A bit glue feel loss of my rubbers. Felt tad bit more "dead" and hard during slower strokes. Ofcourse, I exaggerate a bit to explain the minor difference. It feels mostly like stiffish 5 ply. For me it's behaviour is similiar to TBS; It feels harder on slow strokes but gets the loopy/softer feel when you get faster. I rate this as OFF- to OFF. Throw is on the high side. I've used Baracuda especially to compensate for lower trajectory when using 7 ply blades. Though, I noticed later that this is not the case for Lissom. Easy to create nice arc, no "loss of spin feeling". I do feel this immediately when I switch to faster/stiffer blades from my usual setup. But Lissom has no weakness there. After the first session short game improved quite a bit and proved good. Blocking should obviously be good for such a blade, you can get aggressive with punches/placement. Stiff design helps. With Lissom I noticed better loops with my BH due to increased power and similiar arc compared to my usual setup. More winners, easier counter. I also trained with a defender partner for 1 session. For looping against chops it's quite good. Varying speed/spin is a forte of this blade. Long, short, high, low loops can easily be executed. Didn't feel any discomfort at all. I was suprised how consistent I played. So overall it's easily a keeper. Congrats to Nexy for the good product. PS: Any Spear (sub 90 gr, ST) tester out there that maybe interested in an exchange? I'd like to try that one also. PM me. Edited by speaquinox - 09/20/2010 at 6:42am |
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Posted: 09/20/2010 at 6:29am |
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Aarg I cant wait to try it but I still have to, probably they will make an issue about a rubber being send with the blade (which I forgot to mention on the form I had to fill in) Hopefully they will put it in transit soon so I can finally review..
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Received my LISSOM today. 86g FL. Thanks Nexy. Expect a detailed review by the end of the week. Will be using T05 2.1 on both sides.
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Just came back from practice. I tried the Nexy Lissom with Black Power GCS and Armstrong Warrior.
Lissom is a good allround blade, blocking is very controlled and the shortgame is very good with this blade aswell. When counterhitting it felt quite crisp and controlled especially with the Black Power, but my hits were maybe 10 times as slow as normal. Same when looping was very controlled but a lot slower than I'm used too it was difficult for me to create a nice angle on my loops because of the rubbers linearity (no catapult effect) result was slow and spinless loops. I think this blade would pair much better with rubber with good catapult like Tenergy, Omega and Hexer.
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The plant on the Nexy logo, is that a marijuana plant ?
The leaf structure look so close. Edited by tennisfreak - 09/20/2010 at 6:39pm |
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The leaf is not weed, it is PALM, like from palm tree.
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I received my Lissom today, for some reason I had to pay € 17 though, while I clearly noted that the product had a worth of € 15. I will make an appeal against TNT who delivers for EMS in The Netherlands. It looks wonderfull though. Will try to give an impression next week, due to busy schedule this week.
Please note that Nexy.com doesn't have anything to do with EMS/TNT demanding costs for this product. Edited by Thomasson - 09/21/2010 at 6:19am |
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