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Originally posted by peter79 peter79 wrote:

The Head size of Lissom is smaller than regular blade. Why it's made smaller Mr Moon?
There are plenty different sizes.
What was the standard size for you?
 
My Lissom's head size was considering many things.
And I'm quite sure this head size is very ideal in many ways for modern play.
We need to play close to the table, and when the size is too big, it's not easy to control the plays on the table.
But when the size is too small, then the sweet spot will be small and the vibration will become wierd.
So, I had to find the ideal size.
 
If you need more information, there is one article how I think about the head size in my "nexy designer's diary" thread.
I will welcome you also there if you have further quesitons regarding head size.
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Originally posted by Nexy Nexy wrote:

Originally posted by bogeyhunter bogeyhunter wrote:

 
A friend of mine, chopper rated 2000+, tried Lissom 
So, what was his opinion?
 
Actually, several choppers in Korea asked me to make a special big size Lissom.
They told me this will be good for defenders.
And I'm thinking that Lissom would be also nice for defenders.
He loves it. He likes its speed. Not too fast and not too slow.
Personally, I like it the way it is, not the bigger head. I like Vioncello(bigger version of violin) but I love Violin more. Most choppers like bigger and heavier blades but I like light and small one. 
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Originally posted by Nexy Nexy wrote:

There are plenty different sizes.
What was the standard size for you?
 
My Lissom's head size was considering many things.
And I'm quite sure this head size is very ideal in many ways for modern play.
We need to play close to the table, and when the size is too big, it's not easy to control the plays on the table.
But when the size is too small, then the sweet spot will be small and the vibration will become wierd.
So, I had to find the ideal size.
 
If you need more information, there is one article how I think about the head size in my "nexy designer's diary" thread.
I will welcome you also there if you have further quesitons regarding head size.


My standard size is Hurricane King Head size and Timo boll ALC.
With the smaller head size than normal, I must use heavy rubbers to make it balanced.
If I use soft and light rubbers, then it will be handle heavy.
Lissom suits hard rubber than soft rubber though, usually Hard rubbers are more heavy than softer one. This means Lissom has lesser rubber to combine which is a good thing Tongue
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Thank you for the reply, Peter79.

I think LISSOM's head size is the ideal size for modern offensive style.
Actually, I'm trying some other sizes for other blades, but for now, if the blade is bigger than 150*157, it feels little bit bigger than comfortable.
 
Any way, I will try 150*159 with the next blade.
I think this size is much more pwerful and comfortable away from the table.
Yes, it's truly considerable option.
 
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I have always been an advocate of heavy, but balanced, solid OFF blades. I did not expect much out of Lissom being so light and overall slower than OFF rating. Still, the proff is in the play and how you play it. Lissom prompts you to setup and finish like the coach wants. I wanted to serve and power-skulldrug. Lissom won. Surprising for me. I never hit it off with ANY light blade. No timing or feel. Lissom took adjustments, but they some needed adjustments towards a better game for me.
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Pictures also up.

Hope to finish my review tonight.

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Do you still prefer to play with the Spear? or are you starting to prefer the Lissom?

I've been playing with 2mm Calibra LT on the Lissom over the last two weeks and it's a set up that I'm liking, the more I play with it.

The only caveat is after using Tenergy 64 and 05 on the Lissom prior to Calibra LT, I have to remind myself that a passive block tends to dump the ball in the net; so a punch block or a short wristy shot is needed instead; to give the ball enough momentum to clear the net.





 
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I bought a Lissom from Nexy recently and find that this a very good blade:  good control and still a crisp and hard feel. Also  very strong spin and sufficient  power on hard shots a least for my playing level (should be above 1600 US now).

Has some strange vibrations, but this does not disturb the playing experience a lot.

I played it today the second time with T05 and Barracuda  and was immediately able to beat a player I always lost to before.

Nice thing is that the Lissom  still can play hard enough put away shots while having a better control than faster blades. 

I also gave it to an EJ colleague and he was very impressed too.

As people said before, you have to make more active shots. Pure passive blocks are better with Carbon blades. Also, Lissom needs more powerful play than some of the slick arylate or carbon blades and might still be to slow for Powerplay a la Schlager.

Congratulations to Nexy for creating a really impressive blade with a unique character! 









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Originally posted by Peter C Peter C wrote:

BH-Man

Do you still prefer to play with the Spear? or are you starting to prefer the Lissom?

I've been playing with 2mm Calibra LT on the Lissom over the last two weeks and it's a set up that I'm liking, the more I play with it.

The only caveat is after using Tenergy 64 and 05 on the Lissom prior to Calibra LT, I have to remind myself that a passive block tends to dump the ball in the net; so a punch block or a short wristy shot is needed instead; to give the ball enough momentum to clear the net.





 
 
The Lissom became a crash victim and is no more. i gave it a burial with full military honors.
 
I am using the Spear full time with a 3 month old sheet of T05. I used it and almost made it to finals of div 3 in Guri last week. I defeated the div 3 winner in RR group, but lost to the other finalist in the quarter finals.
 
I loved Lissom and how it made me pay more attention to setting up shots and using spin/placement. Spear does that too, not as much as Lissom. Plus, I get some of the pace and solidness in blocking I like.
 
Mabe I play Spear another month and I will be a better player to make more of the TBS. I traded my lighter version for a heavier version that will swim its way here to Korea one day from Mexico. Mine seemed to take a 2 month hike to get there on the front end.
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Hey, check out my "signature" fellow fourmers!

I now own two, that's right, count them, T W O NEXY blades.
Tomorrow I try the Lissom for the first time.
You could say curiosity got the better of me.

I'll be back...
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...& tonight will be my first hit with it.
Gotta run.
 Anticipation is driving me mad!
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It will attracts me also.

I'm personally very much interested in how people would feel about those two blades.
Spear and lissom share the same purpose, but the feeling and the actual function are quite different.
so, it will make people to know how tt blades can diversify in many ways.
 


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(taken from an exchange I had with a friend in a different "electronic" realm in response to his query as to how I was receiving/perceiving the Lissom)
bold emphasis added

Mr Moon...
a. charges too much for this blade (of course I could be "wrong")*
b. regardless of a, ~also~ needs a N American Distributor
c. needs to tighten up quality control/ his Korean competitor, XIOM, clearly has better quality control
d. I've enjoyed both the NEXY Blades (I've played & own) immediately
e. seems to produce (design) a very solid product
e1. are they "unique"? I really don't know.
f. are his offerings in step with the other major Manufacturers as regards Quality/usefulness to Price ratio? I do not know.



I think the NEXY Lissom is another FINE blade!Clap
I will add, I was enjoying it a great deal & didn't even take my Spear out of its case.
I wish I could play again tonight but have a greater obligation & pleasure.
I will be  playing with it a great deal again & look forward to it.
I am very glad I was able to acquire one at the price that I did.
It has/gives considerably more "feedback" than the Spear.
It did not feel overly "stiff" by any means. It barely felt "stiff" at all.
I think it might pair well with the short pips on my bh.
In short; I was digging it.Thumbs Up
I see myself using my two NEXY blades for a considerable time though can see
myself also considering his proposed budget offering.
 
* I would not have purchased this blade from NEXY.com at 130. US


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Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:


c. needs to tighten up quality control


Hi, could you please comment on this? why do you feel that quality control of NEXY is not OK?
And why do you use so many font sizes? Wink
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:


c. needs to tighten up quality control


Hi, could you please comment on this? why do you feel that quality control of NEXY is not OK?
And why do you use so many font sizes? Wink


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Originally posted by Heimdallalso Heimdallalso wrote:

(taken from an exchange I had with a friend in a different "electronic" realm in response to his query as to how I was receiving/perceiving the Lissom)
bold emphasis added

Mr Moon...
a. charges too much for this blade (of course I could be "wrong")*
b. regardless of a, ~also~ needs a N American Distributor
c. needs to tighten up quality control/ his Korean competitor, XIOM, clearly has better quality control
d. I've enjoyed both the NEXY Blades (I've played & own) immediately
e. seems to produce (design) a very solid product
e1. are they "unique"? I really don't know.
f. are his offerings in step with the other major Manufacturers as regards Quality/usefulness to Price ratio? I do not know.



I think the NEXY Lissom is another FINE blade!Clap
I will add, I was enjoying it a great deal & didn't even take my Spear out of its case.
I wish I could play again tonight but have a greater obligation & pleasure.
I will be  playing with it a great deal again & look forward to it.
I am very glad I was able to acquire one at the price that I did.
It has/gives considerably more "feedback" than the Spear.
It did not feel overly "stiff" by any means. It barely felt "stiff" at all.
I think it might pair well with the short pips on my bh.
In short; I was digging it.Thumbs Up
I see myself using my two NEXY blades for a considerable time though can see
myself also considering his proposed budget offering.
 
* I would not have purchased this blade from NEXY.com at 130. US
To my sorry, I can not understand what you really mean.
Could you clear out what you really meant with your review?
 
Please, check if the below things are correct.
 
1. nexy.com site is expensive, because of expensive delivery fee
 
2. Two nexy blades' details were not good, compared with XIOM.
 
3. Two blades are expensive, when compared with other brands.
 
Actually, as Korean, if you guys write with sophisticated style, some times, I don't get it clearly.
So, please, help me with these matters.
I don't want to excuse or explain.
I just want to make it clean on what matters you were not satisfied with.
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@ Heim: Not to come across as a fanboi or anything, but the fact alone that it seems that it can spoken of along with the Violin and Acoustic in the same breath...

Violin: 160 US
Acoustic: 140 US
Lissom: 100 US

Even if the Lissom was only nearly as good, it is already 40-60 cheaper, but not 40-60 worth less valuable. Not to mention if it was just as good, or better

And then someone was comparing the Spear to BTY Iolite Neo, and how his high-level friend thought the Spear was better! That's 60 > 160.

Of course, the same can be said about cheaper blades vs Nexy blades - say the 18 USD 729 Bomb, which in no stretch of the imagination can be said to be 5 times worse than Lissom. In fact, I like it loads more than Spear, and the new blade from American Hinoki is loads more enjoyable to play with.

All in all, I think the pricing is more justified than not. And from all the pictures I've seen/two blades I've held, the quality of Nexy's blades is pretty top notch! Did you have some bad experiences?
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Hey rawrtje, You don't come across as a fanboi at all; that & your "honesty" & your refraining yourself from fully embracing the Spear (a blade which I really really like to this moment) makes it perfectly clear;  you are a mostly neutral observer/user.

I think your point regarding pricing is well put & valid too. No price is too great if it delivers, or rather, allows us to do what we hope to do with it!
I should add, were any fellow enthusiast to query me I would reply, speedily, I love both my
NEXY blades.
BOTH (I already suspect, at this early stage, I'll enjoy the Lissom even more than the Spear!) my
NEXY blades are fantastic tools for me.
My response: "YES, you should try one!"                     

I do not think the Spear is overpriced.
I did, just recently, have to make a small repair to the top ply of my Spear.
The top ply "peeled" while I was carefully removing a rubber.
Both the larger Lenses in both blades are sloppy.
I say if you do a lens of this type & plan on charging 60.00 (or greater) the lens should be flush...
cleanly flush & at both ends.
The metal handle insert in the Lissom is also poorly done.
One side is set noticeably deeper than the other & it may be off center.
My last inexpensive Galaxy/Yinhe had a nicer insert.

XIOM Lenses are executed much better... at least all the ones I've come across.
Darker lenses are also much, much cleaner.
I know these are just cosmetic things & they don't effect play ~however~ they are part of the buying & owning experience.
To some it will matter little.
To some, not at all.
To some it will matter.
I'd go so far as to say part of the reason Butterfly is Butterfly is precisely because of their very high
cosmetic standards... I think.

Now I'll address Mr Moons questions.

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Originally posted by Nexy Nexy wrote:

Please, check if the below things are correct.
 
1. nexy.com site is expensive, because of expensive delivery fee
 
2. Two nexy blades' details were not good, compared with XIOM.
 
3. Two blades are expensive, when compared with other brands.
 
Actually, as Korean, if you guys write with sophisticated style, some times, I don't get it clearly.
So, please, help me with these matters.
I don't want to excuse or explain.
I just want to make it clean on what matters you were not satisfied with.


Hello Mr Moon,

regarding
1. There is nothing wrong with your site. You've already stated that you were looking for a way to
 decrease your shipping fee ~OR~ get a N. American Distributor. I know these steps would help your sales especially the second one. I hope you find a N. American distributor!
Incidentally, I have heard of (firsthand through friends) more than one account of players who have tried your blades that were "put off" or disappointed with the cost they paid to have their blade shipped to them; subsequently (because of this) would not try another.

2. see my post above to rawrtje

3. I apologise. I did not mean to say you've priced your products too high. I am really not informed enough to "judge" rightly. I defer to your greater experience & knowledge.

I will add though, I am not the only member here to speculate about your pricing... of course, he may be off the mark too.
What I do ~know~ is that we both speak from a place where we want to see NEXY succeed.

If too many perceive your blades as too expensive & some come to perceive your quality as just OK
then they will not be enthusiastic. They won't buy.

You say you saw XIOM grow tremendously in your country.
Were I to guess upon their introduction:
a. Players were pleased enough with the cost of their Blades
b. Players loved the refined, high quality XIOM delivered
just take a look at the box they are delivered in...  quite refined in appearance

In closing I LOVE both my Spear & my Lissom because of the way they function.
You have designed/design (by my & many others more knowledgeable than me estimation)
really good blades. Thumbs Up Clap

That may only be part of the equation of ultimate business success.
Please believe me when I say, I wish you well; even if I am clumsy with words.
Embarrassed

With Respect,



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oh, & I will (~if~ I am able at the time) try your budget offering that you plan to introduce

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Short comment on my experience with them Lissom  blade:

I have been playing fast blades with synthetic fibres for some time, but always had a control issue. I tried wooden blades but found most of them not linear or direct enough.

Lissom is the first wooden blade which, although quite different from the those I played before, allows me to play a similar game.

Maybe Lissom is worth a try for those who love carbon blades (with Tenergy)  but hit to many balls off the table.

As to the outward apperance, XIOM blades look more classy than Lissom. Especially the handle is much more carefully worked for blades of similar price.

@Nexy: Maybe you could have the blade handles produced by XIOM factory Tongue


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harld, that might be a conflict.
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Originally posted by rawrtje rawrtje wrote:


And then someone was comparing the Spear to BTY Iolite Neo, and how his high-level friend thought the Spear was better! That's 60 > 160.



btw I think that was me!LOL

~If not~ I had the same exact experience!
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Originally posted by BH-Man BH-Man wrote:

harld, that might be a conflict.


You think.Wink

(I think he was mostly joking.. mostly)
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Hey Mr. Moon,

I was playing at the Eastern Division NCTTA Tournament this Saturday and midway through a forehand rally, my Lissom split again. I sealed the blade again but I think there maybe something with the blade construction as this is the second blade that has cracked without me hitting it against the table or anything. I really love this blade and recommended it to over 20 players at the tournament. I sold my TBS as I am absolutely set on this being my blade for the forseeable future, however, I need to get my blade as soon as possible as we have practice next weekend a couple of tournaments within the next couple of weeks so I need to get practicing as soon as possible. Are you able to send me another one or could I at least purchase it at a discounted price? If so, I’ll also take advantage of the Tenergy offer and purchase 2 sheets. Also, is the Tenergy 05 FX included in this offer? Let me know as soon as you can.

Thanks!

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has anyone tried Nexy blades with YinHe V1? 
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