A softer Timo Boll spirit

I just managed to slice my TBS's third and middle ply from each other while saving a net ball. It is not totally unplayable, which means i have to buy a new blade. I actually liked the TBS, but i did not consider it perfect. It was too stiff and a little feeling. And i also felt that it offered little dwell at times.

So I've been looking into buying a new blade, and Viscaria seems very tempting! After what I've read it is exactly what im looking for, but i was wondering: are there any other blades similar to TBS (5ply+2 a/c) that are also softer with more dwell and feel? I would not want to sacrifice too much speed on this one. On my list now is now only Viscaria and M.Maze.

So how is viscaria compared to Maze? Are there any other good 5+2 a/c blades?

(Also i read that there are many fake butterfly stuff going around (TBS and Viscaria). What websites should i avoid?)


Edited by Asaomi - 11/14/2010 at 1:51pm

Nitakku Rutis! It's a 3ply+2Gcarbon however I switched to it from the TBS (which I feel is something of a close cousin) because it offered better feel. 

I hear the timo boll zlf is slower but offers more feel and control

  I would suggest Keyshot Light or Timo Boll Spark if you can find one

Edited by jpenmaster - 11/14/2010 at 1:56pm

maze = little stiffer, softer feel
viscaria = very slightly flexier, very slightly softer feel. extremely similar

Well, I feel as though the Rutis is very versatile in that it adapts to the amount of power you input making it good for both drives and soft shots. It's supposedly a stiff blade, however I feel as though its very soft and that it provides a longer dwell time than the TBS. It's also very stable, light, and I would classify it as a medium fast blade. It's just a terrific blade in general and has become something of a staple blade in my club, but if its a power boost you're looking for, the TBS is a better option. 

Erikson45 wrote: Well, I feel as though the Rutis is very versatile in that it adapts to the amount of power you input making it good for both drives and soft shots. It's supposedly a stiff blade, however I feel as though its very soft and that it provides a longer dwell time than the TBS. It's also very stable, light, and I would classify it as a medium fast blade. It's just a terrific blade in general and has become something of a staple blade in my club, but if its a power boost you're looking for, the TBS is a better option.  The only problem I see with it though is that its handle is very thin and may be uncomfortable to some

Remember that stiff/flexible is different to hard/soft. For instance my clipper is soft, but stiff (not flexible) and my offensive CR is soft and flexible, while i consider TBS to be pretty hard (a little too hard) and stiff.

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34532&PN=1
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35996&PID=442131

Did you, by very soft, mean very flexible?







Edited by Asaomi - 11/14/2010 at 3:40pm

Asaomi wrote: Erikson45 wrote: Well, I feel as though the Rutis is very versatile in that it adapts to the amount of power you input making it good for both drives and soft shots. It's supposedly a stiff blade, however I feel as though its very soft and that it provides a longer dwell time than the TBS. It's also very stable, light, and I would classify it as a medium fast blade. It's just a terrific blade in general and has become something of a staple blade in my club, but if its a power boost you're looking for, the TBS is a better option.  The only problem I see with it though is that its handle is very thin and may be uncomfortable to some  Remember that stiff/flexible is different to hard/soft. For instance my clipper is soft, but stiff (not flexible) and my offensive CR is soft and flexible, while i consider TBS to be pretty hard (a little too hard) and stiff. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34532&PN=1 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35996&PID=442131 Did you, by very soft, mean very flexible?

I have the Timo Boll ZLF (penhold version) and it is softer than the Spirit with a lot more feeling, flex, and dwell time. It is slightly slower, more like an OFF-. And it's thin which I like for RPB. It's my favorite looping blade with T05 and H3 Neo. Throw is nice and high, blade has a little catapult effect of its own as well.


Edited by cotdt - 11/14/2010 at 4:45pm

Viscaria

Xiom Stradivarius is also a good option. Speedwise I would put it up there with TBS. Its Armaid-Carbon versus Arylate-Carbon, but in function they do the same. Best feature is that its not "BUTTERFLY" and the probability that the price will not go up is pretty high. 

Baal wrote: Asaomi wrote: Baal wrote: Viscaria where are good online stores to acquire the Viscaria for a reasonable money? What price are you looking for?

i see that the regular price is $144.99, so any price a little lower than this. Ive been looking into Eacheng.net, is this place reputable for legit products and good business?

Just a heads up, I would watch out when buying certain blades from China as there are many chinese knockoffs, the viscaria being one of the more popular knockoffs from what I've heard. 

Asaomi wrote: hahaha couldnt help my self. Just ordered one from eacheng.net

You will love it.