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Model  Speed  Control Weight Ply  Thickness  Substitute / Blade Marking







CN (Beginners series)




896 8 7 80+-2 5 6.7+-.2 allround
898 9 7 95+-2 7 6.6+-.2 fast
966 7 6 100+-2 6 6.2+-.2 allround







(DL special carbon series)




DL-1 8 9 86+-3 3+2wC 7 off (balanced looping)
DL-2 8 9 86+-3 5+2tC 5.8 off (fast looping)
DL-3 9 8 85+-3 5+2uC 6.3 off (fast looping)







(Earth series)



CS/FL
E-1 8 9 88+-3 5 6.0/5.5 off
E-2 8 10 85+-3 5 6.0/5.8 off
E-3 8 9 88+-3 5 6.0/5.5 off (med-soft)
E-4 8 9 85+-3 5 6.0/5.8 off (med-soft)
E-5 9 8 85+-3 5 6 off (hard)







(Engineered Carbon series)




EC-11

84 5+2EC 6.2 off
EC-12

85 5+2EC 6.8 off
EC-13

84 5+2EC 5.7 off
EC-14

84 5+2EC 6.3 off







(Classic pure wood series)




H-1 9 8 88+-2 5 7.0+-.2 fast
H-2 10 6 90+-2 7 7.0+-.2 fast
H-3 9 6 88+-2 5 7.0+-.2 fast







(Carbon-Arylate series)




K-1  10 8 87+-3  5+2AC 5.8+-.2  off
K-2  9 8 87+-3  3+2AC 6.0+-.2  Butterfly Kong Linghui Special (medium-fast)
K-3  8.5 9 87+-3  3+2AC 6.0+-.2  medium
K-4  9.5 8 83+-3  5+2AC 5.8+-.2  Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit (medium-fast)
K-5  10 8 85+-3  5+2AC 7.0+-.2  Butterfly Gergely (fast)
K-6  9.5 8 85+-3  5+2AC 6.0+-.2  Butterfly Michael Maze (medium-fast)







(Li Qian defensive series)




LQ-1 6 9
5
def
LQ-2 5 9
5
def







(M Pure wood series)




M-1  8 7 86+-2  5 6.0+-.2  medium-fast
M-2  8 7 86+-2  5 6.0+-.2  medium-fast
M-3  8 6 88+-2  5 6.0+-.2  medium
M-4  8 7 90+-2  7 5.6+-.2  fast (Butterfly Petr Korbel)
M-5  10 7 90+-2  7 6.6+-.2  Stiga Clipper
M-6  9 7 86+-2  7 6.0+-.2  Stiga Clipper







(Microcrystalline series)




MC-1  9 8 85+-2  5+2+MC  6.0+-.2 
MC-2  8 10 86+-3  5+MC  5.7+-.2  Stiga Optimum 
MC-3  10 7 86+-3  7+6+MC  6.0+-.2  Stiga Carbo 7.6
MC-4  8.5 8 88+-3  5+2+MC  5.8+-.2 







(N Pure wood series)




N-1 9 8
5
medium-fast
N-2 9 9
5
fast
N-3 9 9
5
fast
N-4 8 8
7
medium-fast
N-5 8 8
5
all-round fast
N-6 8 8
5
all-round fast
N-7 7 7
5
all-round fast
N-8 7 7
5
all-round fast
N-9 7 7
5
all-round fast
N-10 8+ 6+ 80+-3 5 6.4+-.2 all-round
N-11 8+ 6+ 80+-3 5 6.4+-.2 all-round







(PL special wood series)




PL-1 8 8 84+-3 7 6.4 off (smash and loop)
PL-2

85+-3 5 5.6 off (smash and loop)
PL-3 8 7 80+-3 5 6.7 all-round (for beginners)







(Cypress carbon series)




T-1  10 7 86+-3  3+2C 7.4+-.2  Butterfly Schlager Carbon (fast)
T-2  9.5 8 76+-3  3+2C 6.4+-.2  Butterfly Primorac Carbon (fast)
T-3  10 7 85+-3  4+3C 6.8+-.2  fast
T-4  10.5 6 85+-3  5+4C 6.0+-.2  fast
T-5  10 6 88+-3  5+2C 6.0+-.2  fast
T-6  9.5 8 80+-3  3+2C 6.0+-.2  medium-fast
T-7  9 8 88+-3  5+2AC 6.0+-.2  medium-fast
T-8  10 8 86+-3  5+2AC 6.0+-.2  fast







(Balsa carbon series)




T-10 10 7 70+-3 3+2C 10.0+-.2 fast
T-11 10 10 68 3+2c 7.0+-.2 fast







(Uranus series)





U-1 10 7 87+-3 7 6.6+-.2 off (hard)
U-2 9 7 86+-3 7 6.0+-.2 off (hard)
U-3












(U Pure wood series)




U-4  7 9 84+-2  5 6.0+-.2  Stiga Offensive Classic CR WRB
U-5  8 9 80+-2  5 6.0+-.2 
U-6  8.5 8 86+-2  5 6.2+-.2 
U-7  8 9 84+-2  5 6.0+-.2 
U-8  8 8 84+-2  5 5.8+-.2 







(Synthetic series)






V-1 9
9
87+-3
3+2
7.0+-.1

V-2 9
7
87+-3
5+2
6.0+-.1

V-3





V-4





V-14  9.5 8 83+-3  5+2  5.8+-.2  Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit (medium-fast)
V-15  9.5 8 85+-3  5+2  6.0+-.2  Butterfly Michael Maze (medium-fast)







(Carbon King series)




W-1  9 7 86+-3  7+2  6.1+-.2
W-2  9 7 86+-3  7+2  5.8+-.2
W-3  9 8 86+-3  3+2  6.3+-.2 Butterfly Kong Linghui Special
W-4  8 8 82+-3  3+2  6.4+-.2
W-5  9 9 85+-3  5+2  5.8+-.2 Yasaka Soft Carbon
W-6  8 10 82+-3  5 5.7+-.2 Yasaka Gatien Extra







(Thin carbon series)




Y-1  9 8 82+-3  3+2  5.7+-.2  off
Y-2  9.5 8 82+-3  5+2  5.9+-.2  off
Y-3  8.5 8 82+-3  5+2  5.8+-.2  all
Y-4  8 8 82+-3  3+2  5.8+-.2  all
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Of course, at least half of this table is based on Brainstorm's table

http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=14855

The rest is just a compilation of various sources - Yin-He site, Eacheng, some forum reviews etc.

If you see any typos, or you know new info or new reviews on the blades - let us all know.
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I notice the table shows the 7 ply 5.6mm M4 as the clone of the Petr Korbel.

As the Petr Korbel is a 5 ply 5.9mm blade; wouldn't it make more sense if the 5 ply 6mm M-3, is the Petr Korbel clone instead?


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Originally posted by Peter C Peter C wrote:

JimT

I notice the table shows the 7 ply 5.6mm M4 as the clone of the Petr Korbel.

As the Petr Korbel is a 5 ply 5.9mm blade; wouldn't it make more sense if the 5 ply 6mm M-3, is the Petr Korbel clone instead?



Peter - that is quite possible but I am simply compiling reviews and data, and that was what I read in a review. Is there anyone who played with M-4 or M-3 and could comment on this?

Also - sometimes a 7-ply blade can be playing same way as 5-ply... just coincidentally or perhaps because some two plies are combining to produce the same (or almost the same) effect as one thicker ply... who knows...
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:


Originally posted by Peter C Peter C wrote:

JimTI notice the table shows the 7 ply 5.6mm M4 as the clone of the Petr Korbel.As the Petr Korbel is a 5 ply 5.9mm blade; wouldn't it make more sense if the 5 ply 6mm M-3, is the Petr Korbel clone instead?
Peter - that is quite possible but I am simply compiling reviews and data, and that was what I read in a review. Is there anyone who played with M-4 or M-3 and could comment on this?Also - sometimes a 7-ply blade can be playing same way as 5-ply... just coincidentally or perhaps because some two plies are combining to produce the same (or almost the same) effect as one thicker ply... who knows...
The M-4 is a mixture of the primorac Off- and the Korbel. It was made to play a little faster than the primorac, but more control than the Korbel.
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Some missing data:
V-1: speed=9, control=9, FL 87±3g, 3+2 ply, thickness=7.0±0.1mm
V-2: speed=9, control=7, FL 87±3g, 5+2 ply, thickness=6.0±0.1mm
source: http://www.yinhe1986.cn
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

Some missing data:
V-1: speed=9, control=9, FL 87±3g, 3+2 ply, thickness=7.0±0.1mm
V-2: speed=9, control=7, FL 87±3g, 5+2 ply, thickness=6.0±0.1mm
source: http://www.yinhe1986.cn


Thanks, I will add this now.
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Yinhe "clones" are designed to clone performance, not for feel.  For example, the V-15 is designed to perform like a Viscaria(i.e. same strokes would yield same speed/spin/placement), but not to feel like one(i.e. thickness, vibrations, sound, etc. could be different).
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Who says some blades are replicas of other blades? I mean, is it just users, because construction/playing characteristics are similar to some existing blades, or is there an official source at YinHe?
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It's been common practice for Chinese industries, to produce copies of famous products; to satisfy the demand that has existed worldwide, for centuries. 

For example; Chinese Industry was producing Blue and White Porcelain tableware, to satisfy the demand that existed within Muslim countries, during the 14th Century. And they continue to do so.

And to quote a more modern example; you are more likely to see someone walking around with a fake Rolex on their wrist; than someone wearing the genuine article.

In the case of Table Tennis; you are also talking about the national sport of China and hence a big demand for copies of famous blades; to satisfy demand within their home market and thanks to the Internet; to satisfy the demand of players worldwide too.

Irrespective of whether they are copies or not; my personal experience of the K4, M6, Uranus 2 and W6; are that they are good blades, in their own right.




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I agree. I was just wondering whether Yinhe admits that some of their blades are "inspired" by famous classics.
Besides, I think blademaking quality at Yinhe improved over the last years (it was already very good for the price) and some of them now have an impressive quality/price ratio. I find that T7 and W6 are very good blades, and very cheap, too. I have an E-1 that I still need to test.
Their latest blades now use diferent drying and glueing technology and some of them are more expensive (Venus-1 to Venus-4, some of the Earth blades: V-3 and V-4 use ZL and ZLC and two Earth blades are inspired by Violin and Acoustic). These may be competitive in the Chinese market, because import blades from Butterfly and Nittaku are very expensive in China, but I doubt that they will be popular outside China.
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I'd agree that Yinhe are producing these blades to primarily satisfy home demand and the success of blades like the W-6 overseas, is an added bonus.

 
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Originally posted by pingpongrob pingpongrob wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:


[QUOTE=Peter C] Is there anyone who played with M-4 or M-3 and could comment on this?
The M-4 is a mixture of the primorac Off- and the Korbel. It was made to play a little faster than the primorac, but more control than the Korbel.


Korbel Off is M1. I had that blade before time.
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From what I read P500, HK655, HH656, and H-WN all have the same composition as E-1:
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I know nothing about the playing characteristics, but maybe the shakehand E-1 could be considered a replica of HK (5.5mm), while the CS E-1 could be considered a replica of HK655, H-WN, or P500?
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Originally posted by kolevtt kolevtt wrote:

Originally posted by pingpongrob pingpongrob wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:


[QUOTE=Peter C] Is there anyone who played with M-4 or M-3 and could comment on this?
The M-4 is a mixture of the primorac Off- and the Korbel. It was made to play a little faster than the primorac, but more control than the Korbel.


Korbel Off is M1. I had that blade before time.


M-1 is a very good blade but I am not sure it plays same as Korbel... are you sure? Perhaps all M blades play close to Korbel? Wink
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Originally posted by arg0 arg0 wrote:

and two Earth blades are inspired by Violin and Acoustic


which one exactly you think is inspired by Acoustic? thanks
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The reason why I wrote "inspired by" is that the similarity is probably limited to the outer ply being limba (E-3) and ash (E-4). I don't think they are meant to be replicas of the Nittaku blades.
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Added couple of small updates to the table - plies for T-8 and thickness for some Y blades
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I have an N-6 on it's way to me. I'll let you know what it weighs.
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Nice list. Thanks!

Rosewood and ebenholz substitues could be added but I think they are not available on the market yet.
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I don't know if the speed and control rating is official (i think it is) but it must be wrong, OR my LKT Instict should be rated way higher than it says. Recently bought a pair of Blitz max and the T4. Two days ago i switched the rubbers to Instict cause i really liked the feeling of this blade. What i noticed first was that oddly, the speed of the blade and the control were almost at the same level. Instict's slowness is shown only when powerlooping or power flathitting. If T4 has 10+ speed and 6 control then Instict should be rated 9 speed and 7 control. Both blades have nearly the same weight, maybe couple grams difference.

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v-15 is about 7 mm thick
v-16 is about 6 mm and roughly would correspond to M.Maze (although it is not that similar in feel, it is close speed/flex/throw-wise)

so, please correct the data above
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Originally posted by vvu.tee vvu.tee wrote:

v-15 is about 7 mm thick
v-16 is about 6 mm and roughly would correspond to M.Maze (although it is not that similar in feel, it is close speed/flex/throw-wise)

so, please correct the data above

Right, the V-16 is the one that's supposed to be similar to Maze.  The V-15 is supposed to be similar to Viscaria in playing characteristics.  
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Are there any ratings for Galaxy one ply blades?
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T-1 and T-2 have nothing to do with Schlager and Primo Carbon. Just stay away from them.
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Last winter, I bought a T4 from China-Friend (sameguy as Eacheng.net) on Ebay for a cheap price. I only got a chance to weigh it recently and it came to only 77g!!!!!   Shocked

Your chart & other dealers list the weight at approx 85g, give or take. I never imagined 8g difference could be possible. Is the quality control that bad at Yinhe/Galaxy ??   A blade with this kind of variance should have been "rejected" at the factory and not make it to the retail stage.

My point is Yinhe/Galaxy attempts to make clones of major brands, but as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. 
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Originally posted by Snakefish Snakefish wrote:

I never imagined 8g difference could be possible. Is the quality control that bad at Yinhe/Galaxy ??   A blade with this kind of variance should have been "rejected" at the factory and not make it to the retail stage.

My point is Yinhe/Galaxy attempts to make clones of major brands, but as the saying goes, you get what you pay for. 

While I agree with you, that much variation is unacceptable, you'll find that a lot of the more expensive blades suffer from this as well. So unfortunately you don't always get what you pay for. Confused

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Originally posted by dingyibvs dingyibvs wrote:

Originally posted by vvu.tee vvu.tee wrote:

v-15 is about 7 mm thick
v-16 is about 6 mm and roughly would correspond to M.Maze (although it is not that similar in feel, it is close speed/flex/throw-wise)

so, please correct the data above

Right, the V-16 is the one that's supposed to be similar to Maze.  The V-15 is supposed to be similar to Viscaria in playing characteristics.  

Did you have V15, and V16, or just compare them off base on the spec?  I don't have the V16, but my V15 thickness is exactly 6.15mm, not 7mm as says on the spec.  It is quite stiff, but has good control.  I don't have M.Maze to compare, but I would not be surprise if them play similar.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote the_theologian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08/12/2011 at 1:41pm
Received 3 galaxy blades today (new)
N-6: 90.7g
N-10: 85.3g
N-11: 77.3g
 
(I double-checked my scale with the prescribed 500 gram weight and it was spot on)
 
 
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Some Yinhe blades have different thickness in FL and CPEN (CPEN is thicker). This is the case, e.g., for E-1. May be the case for V-15 and V-16 as well.
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