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XIOM Offensive S review. |
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rocketman222
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shameless plug - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=73856&title=f-s-xiom-stradivarius-and-xiom-offensive-s
i m selling my used(2 months only) one for 35$ including shipping/fees.
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patrick1v
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actually the off s has a bigger handle the korbel blade it is a bit wider and for biegn a bit slower i wouldnt worry as it is an excellent controll blade with a couple sheets of vega europe it gives everything you need in a blade
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ThijsG
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faster than the korbel?
too bad I was looking for the same or slightly slower but withe the same feel and bigger handle |
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Fehrplay
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Have someone tried it with the Airoc M?
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DreiZ
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Which vega do you think is comparable to t05? |
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beeray1
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vega pro for me took a little bit to get used to. I really really like it right now though. I remember when it was first getting out there, William henzell gave it really really high praise. It's really stable, I wouldn't call it dead by any means, it's just more linear than tenergy. It still has really good catapult when not being completely passive. But you can get some really great spin out of it. I consider it a fast rubber, and I use it on defplay. So I'm sure it's plenty fast on any other blade. In my opinion, the xiom rubbers that are in the $50-60 range don't really have much if anything over vega pro for 38 bucks.
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IanMcg
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I've only really hit with Vega Pro and I found it hard to control compared to T05, but then again I normally use Sriver 2.1 so I would find a lot of modern rubbers uncontrollable I'm sure somewhere in the XIOM lineup you could find a rubber that you would be comfortable playing with, but I haven't played with any of them There are a ton of threads on XIOM rubbers that would help much better than I can.
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DreiZ
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Sounds good. I wouldn't be able to get a hold of off s without buying it. But it's the second best choice after korbel st. Which rubber out of xiom family matches to t05 in your opinion? And would it ^ match well on off s, identical both sides. sorry if im asking a lot of questions. Edited by DreiZ - 11/20/2014 at 11:34pm |
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IanMcg
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I feel that Vega Pro and T05 are rather different, VP is harder and deader and I think it would work better on a Korbel, but as I said before Off S is a blade that works well with pretty much any rubber. As long as you're comfortable with the rubber, it will probably work with the Off S.
One more thing, if you can do a knock test with your Off S before buying that would probably be good. Just hold the edges of the blade head with your thumb and middle finger, and knock the flat of the handle lightly against your forehead. A higher pitched sound means a harder blade, and shorter vibrations means the blade is stiffer.
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DreiZ
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thanks for the input! How would Vega Pro both sides play on this blade, would it be comparable to Korbel + T05 both sides? |
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IanMcg
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Feel is medium like the Korbel, but Off S is definitely stiffer. ST handle is definitely not square; it's wider than Korbel, but around the same thickness. Korbel is more head heavy. If you try Korbel and feel like you need something a hair faster and a smidgeon stiffer, Off S is your blade.
Most rubbers will play well on this blade. It's not too soft nor too hard, not too stiff nor too flexible, not too thick nor too thin- it's a very balanced blade. Moderately fast. Can play close to the table and at mid distance, not recommended to play with far from the table (but really, who's going to be playing back there with the new ball). The blade has a very smooth finish, you might want to seal very very lightly just in case but I wouldn't worry about it. |
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DreiZ
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resurrecting this since im curious about this blade:
been looking for a korbel ST for a reasonable price but I found few alternatives, this being one of them. how would this blade play with Xiom Vega rubbers, especially Pro version? also how different/similar is it to a korbel ST in terms of feel, handle size, etc? in terms of finish, does this blade splinter easily? Edited by DreiZ - 11/19/2014 at 10:28pm |
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laki
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Sorry for reviving the old topic, but I recently bought this blade and I was curious so I searched the net a bit.
Anyway, I am trilled with the blade I am starting to fall in love with it. It made me come back to all wood blade again, and I almost forgot the feeling that it gives you. Astounding ... P.S. Anton, that was a remarkable review. You really hit the spot with it . It made me buy this blade and I don't regret one second of it. I look forward to any of your reviews. Cheears.
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Stiga Clipper CC
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laki
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I found an interesting review of xiom offensive s at one Chinese website saying that the inner core of the blade is paulownia (if my google translated it correctly), which is kiri wood, i think...
Here is the site http://www.yoger.com.cn/product/144006.html
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Stiga Clipper CC
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Anton Chigurh
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The Fuga is essentially a Stiga OC. Koto outer ply. It is thinner than the Offensive S. It is also a bit slower. The Fuga has a sharper (or "harder") feel than the Offensive S but the Offensive S is definitely faster.
Both are great blades. One is stiffer, softer feeling, and faster (the Offensive S) and the other is flexier, sharper feeling, and a bit slower (Fuga). |
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Neo H3 40D| Offensive S | Tenergy 80
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alphapong
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I have played with Fuga and Offensive S. The outer layers on Fuga are harder and the pitch is higher.
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IanMcg
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I haven't played Offensive S before but I guess that in comparison, the Fuga would have a slightly softer feel and be a tad slower.
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Imago
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Thanks for the elaborate - as always! - review. As for the Fuga comparison thing, Fuga must be somewhat faster and harder than Off S, but this is a conjecture based on pitch.
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jatienza930
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Nice review! I kept my xiom offensive s. I used it for several months when I wanted to improve my swing. Paired tenergy 05, 05 fx and worked like a charm. Heaps of control and has speed when you need it. Its around in the lower OFF rating but still has enough speed for an offensive topspin game. Xiom blades are exceptionally well made for the price. I also have an axelo in which the finish is nothing short of outstanding.
Edited by jatienza930 - 11/23/2012 at 4:26pm |
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bbkon
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where to get extreme S, if i recall you play with pips pen? it would be really a replacement for clipper/CR?
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Anton Chigurh
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Nope. Never played with it. Sorry. |
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Neo H3 40D| Offensive S | Tenergy 80
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AlexB
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Anton,
Could you make comparison with Tibhar Stratus Power Wood?
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beeray1
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I wish i still had the Offensive S I bought from Anton. That was one of the best blades I've ever had. It's definitely up there.
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mhnh007
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The more I play with the Offensive S, the more I like it. It has enough power to put away point, and the control is as good as any wooden blades that I've tried. I think I am going to oder another one with Square handle to try.
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seguso
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i've used extreme S for 3 months. it is a great wooden blade, stiff and medium hard , 7 ply, limba outer. similar to clipper wood, probably even more to clipper cr which I haven't tried. same thickness and same wood as clipper wood, but faster, a bit lower throw, and slightly more flexible.
I've changed it with galaxy t1 because it was still too slow. |
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Benigma
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Has anyone had a go with the Extreme S? That one looks very promising for me
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mhnh007
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I had a chance to play with the Offesive S, excellent blade. It play very similar to P Korbel, a little faster, but a bit softer. It is more balance than the P Korbel, so if you play with heavy rubber, then this blade is better for you. BTW - good review, I totally agree.
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beeray1
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also, how does it compare to the Fuga, Anton? If you could be so kind that is :)
I've been reading into that blade too.
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beeray1
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This is a great description. It sounds like exactly what I've been looking for in a blade. I've been wanting to go back to 5 plys for a few months now, but haven't found the right one. I wont buy butterfly. Otherwise I'd already own a korbel.
To be honest, if I were to describe what I wanted in a blade, it would be pretty damn close to what you just described for this blade, Anton. I have always been kinda hesitant to buy a xiom product though... I tend to stick to really common models of blades because they are tried and true. Like Clipper- everyone loves clippers. But I like the idea of one thicker core, and I like that kind of feel more. Are there other blades out there that are the same kind of build other than the korbel? What are they? to be honest, my "add to cart" button finger might get itchy enough to just go ahead and buy this one instead of getting another OC CR... which is what I've kind of settled for. What are the other blades like this one out there before i get it?
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Baal
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I've owned two Xiom blades, and while I did not end up keeping either one, the workmanship was truly first rate. I didn't like them quite as much as my beloved Viscarias, but they were excellent blades. Xiom gives great value for the money.
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