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kanaping
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I have received my spartacus at the beginning of the week. FL, 82gr. I have had 2 training with it so it is time for me to give a first feedback : - Design : quite cool, especially the handle with the two different sides…finish is good but not perfect : near the handle there is an irregularity in the cut of the wood. It does not affect the holding or the use of the balde but If I pay 100$ for this blade I would be disappointed. One thing I like is the feel of the handle : very smooth. - The blade is quite light…with 2 calibra LT spin 2mm it feels a little head heavy. - How does it play ? This blade surely has some character. I found it to be surprisingly good and efficient in the short game. In fact I’ve never been able to have an effective short game with a carbon blade before and that was one of the main reason I was not using them…Here you have a lot of touch and it feels actually more like a stiff all wood blade in the short game… The blade feels quite soft and vibration level is medium I would say. Opening loops are quite easy to perform, you have a nice arc and the ball is spiny. I actually could win many points using spiny opening loops ! Here you do not really feel the carbon … Blocking was more of an issue for me. It took me some time to understand that you have to be active while blocking otherwise the ball tend to fall into the net. It is ok when your placement is good but if not it is a direct mistake. Powerlooping is where you really feel the carbon kicking in. you can make powerfull shots but you have to engage yourself. Comparison with Lissom are true. The behavior is quite similar but the blade is a tad faster. I need to try it more, but I will compete this week end with my current setup : lt spin with ultimate. I do not feel yet comfortable enough to use Spartacus in competition and I’m not sure if I want to…he fact that you kind of get a different behavior if you involve the carbon or not have some advantages but I can see also some downside, especially in terms of linearity…More to come next week. |
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Kanaping, this is the very thing I stress about Lissom and Spartacus. You cannot block the same as a faster setup that is stiff. You seem to be forced to active block or die. bad deal at first, but after a time, it is good training for your TT health.
As for comps, do what you feel is right. I have been using the Sparticus with T05 and Skyline II for the last month and have never played better. I am doing a club comp tomarrow and will use Sparticus. I have another big tourney in TDC in a week and will use it. My game has never been so good to date and I intend to carry that momentum sum moar.
Carryboy's observations about opening and finishing are also what I saw. this setup is a continuous looping machine that can bend the laws of physics with the right swing.
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elmo51
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Well i finally got the chance to test the spartacus.
I noticed a bad finishing on the handle to unfortunally. at the place where the plastic nexy logo is put in there is a tiny little crack, it almost seems like its gleud afterwards, you can feel a little bobble when you glide your finger over the wood but i wont complain with a blade won ,but I can imagine that if you pay the full amount you will not be satisfied.
Then the playing charasteristics:
The spartacus is a very controlable carbon blade. I tested it with tenergy 05 on FH and blitz on BH and will compare to WSC and TBS and maybe will to with some others that i used
Control: Control is perfect, Touch shots are very easy to perform
So i would say WSC first but only a little better , tehn Spartacus and then much
further away TBS. Violin has even more control then all off these and i would put xiom
stradivarius between spartacus and TBS
Touch shots:
Touch shots are very easy to perform with the Spartacus , a little higher throw angle then
WSC but very easy to do if you adjust your wrist a little bit.
I would put them at the same place and TBS further away which is normal since TBS is
much harder, Violin is im my opinion even more good at this
Loop:
Looping is very easy with this setup, like other members say with the right swing
you get tons of spin, about the same as WSC and very controlled
I found that my BH loop was even more easy to do with the spartacus then with the WSC
I find it hard to compare this to the TBS since that is so much faster and harder for me
to get it on the table. They fly over more with my play because of the speed.
Speed:
In terms of speed its good enough, but compared to the WSC it is al ittle slower. Just
a little but I had hoped it was faster then WSC, i think it is about the speed of the violin.
TBS and Stradivarius are both faster and harder/stiffer.
Flex:
Like said above TBS an Strad are both stiffer, TBS the stiffest.
WSC has most flex Then Violin Then Spartacus.
Block:
Unlike a lot of people I Like blocking with softer controlable blades a lot.
So with spartacus blocking was very easy to, very precise . just where i wanted them.
About the same as with WSC just a little slower, About the same as violin, Ofcourse with
strad and TBS its faster and with more punch so it makes it more difficult for your
opponent to return but it more difficult for you to to time the block.
Overall Impression:
I find the Nexy spartacus a very nice and well balanced blade, I would rate it as off-
and I think that it is very suitable for allround players our offensive players who rely on
control like myself although it could be little bit faster for my likings.
Its a well made blade, i asume the little crack was a mistake and it is a blade for a
big market for sure. I think the majority of amateur players will like this blade when
they buy it and will learn a lot from it until they grow into a faster blade.
It will be my second blade, And i will continue to search for a little faster
and flexible carbon blade then the WSC with about the same amount of control
Edited by elmo51 - 10/09/2011 at 3:27am |
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BH-Man
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8 blades awarded, 5 reviews done, 3 left to go. |
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jt99sf
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I'm going to update mine in a moment, can you put it on the first page along with the others? Thanks, John |
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Sure, John.
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Nexy
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BH-Man,
I read reviews, and I think I made Spartacus as I wanted. I'm really thankful for all the frank reviews. By the way, I have an idea. You know, my next blade CALIX will come later, so I think some testers can be given another chance for Calix. So, I wish you could select two persons who are worthy of next test blades, Calix. I think you can decide, when my Calix comes out. ( I wish your club opened a new way for Korean players. )
Edited by Nexy - 10/10/2011 at 11:35am |
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BH-Man
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Alright Nexy, I'll be all over it once you release the Calix.
BTW everyone, I saw two samples of the Pre-Production Calix. Don't want to spill the beans on anything, but man, this will be one smooth fast cat of a good looking blade for sure.
For anyone (everyone?) not knowing what Nexy is talking about regarding the "club", we foreigners in Korea created the first USATT sanctioned club outside of USA. We intend to solidfy teh USATT ratings of existing USATT members in Korea with our 1st tourney, then open the doors for Koreans to get a shot at a USATT rating through round robin tourneys. Oh, Nexy just sponsored our club's team players with some cool gear to boot.
I'll make a separate post about this with a pic or two.
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elmo51
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what kind of blade is calix going to be?
Edited by elmo51 - 10/11/2011 at 2:24am |
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BH-Man
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Hi Elmo. My short look at just the blade itself is of course inconclusive, but it shapes up to be faster than the Spartacus, very thin with carbon layers, and has outer veneers stained dark brown. That is the pre-production model I got to see and hold for a short tap on the forehead. (Yes, Koreans test bare blades that way for vibration/stiffness cool to watch a pro doing that!)
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jt99sf
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will the Calix be a carbon-only blade or mixed with other fibers? tia. Edited by jt99sf - 10/11/2011 at 11:39am |
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arg0
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There are wood fibres in between the carbon layers! :D Seriously, there are pics of Calix in the NEXT designer's diary thread. |
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harldhzx
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Played some more with Spartacus after my vacation. I have to agree with BH-Man: this blade is great for learning good strokes without sacrificing too much speed. The blade is very safe and effective on shots where I make good use of arm and wrist snap as well as forward motion. That way I actually trust myself to play such shots during matches, which is what I have to do to become a better player.
Another small downside I discovered: the blade reacts quite a bit on spin, which makes it more difficult to return slow and spinny balls with a touch shot. Anyhow, Spartacus is good enough too replaced the Innerforce ALC I've been using before (at least until the next EJ attack ) |
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Thanks for the confirmation harldhzx, I say it agian for the 23rd time. Each time I test out a slower (slower than my trusty TBS) Nexy blade, I am always finding myself improving an aspect of my game that only explodes in improvement when I go back to the TBS. This time around, the improvement has already shown itself using the Spartacus. I simply have to be active using this blade. Learning good habits of being active transltes into better performance with the Nexy blade or the TBS. I might be ready to take on the Nexy Oscar again. Last year, the Oscar was just too fast for me, even with its TBS like feel and properties. If I can slap on a new sheet of T05 on the FH of teh venerable TBS after my couple months using Spartacus, I should be even better than I am using Spartacus, yet right now, I have not ever been playing better Table Tennis than right now the last couple months.
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BH-Man
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jt99sf. I have not seen the production model of the Calix, but the two pre-production samples I saw looked to be like a Spartacus on steroids with better looks (think brown stained outer veneers with thin carbon layers (just thin carbon, no arlyte or other stuff) and a GREAT looking finish). Blade is VERY thin and like other such Nexy blades, the weight looks like it will be in the 80s. I used to hate any blade under 90 grams, but the Lisson and Spartacus changed my mind on that if I used heavy grip tape.
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If its anything like a Tihbar RapidCarbon, I'd want one! |
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Dear Mr. Moon. My Question is: I assume that You as designer check the blade’s performance with some default rubber(s). With which rubber did Spartacus show it’s peak performance? It was Tenergy 05, right? Thanks for Your answer! Edited by Klaus123 - 10/23/2011 at 7:44pm |
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I think Nexy like Aurus sound. He had one test model with Calibra and I absolutely did NOT like Calibra on Spartacus. Wanted to puke. Couldn't keep the ball on the table to save my life. slapped a new sheet of T05 on a new Spartacus with some heavy grip tape and I was ready to take on hte world. (Well at least it felt that way) A few weeks later, I tried out someone's TBS ALC with Calibra Sound and it was awesome, like its own WMD. I think T05 is an excellent match, but that will prolly be somewhat different for everyone. Maybe he sez Genius or Aurus.
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Klaus123
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@BH-man Yes, I experienced T05 needs blades that are stiff and hard or stiff and soft. And since Spartacus is stiff and soft it works with T05. Calibra probably needs blades that are stiff and hard. TBS or ALC would fit that.
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Calix is out and is one of the best-looking blades ever:
http://nexy.com/shop/step1.php?number=1273 Can't wait for a test report! |
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what blade is best seller of NEXY?
Oscar Nexy is a great blade? |
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BH-Man
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Nexy will have to pop up and answer that one, but I have seen some of my opponents in Seoul use the Lissom.
The Calix sure looks good and I am curious to see how it handles.
Now that it seems to have hit the street, I have a task to find two existing testers to run Calix through the paces.
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I have been playing with Lissom for about 8 months and I can confirm it's a very versatile blade. At times I wish it was faster, though. I am trying to shorten my strokes, but with short strokes and Lissom I don't get enough speed.
Edit: BTW, if there's going to be a call for Calix testers, please count me in. Edited by arg0 - 10/29/2011 at 2:00am |
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BH-Man, I apply for Calix testing
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elmo51
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I apply to if it is faster then the lissom and the spartacus
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Dear Elmo 51, Among testing blades, some had scars on it. Sorry for this. Oscar
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kanaping
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I apply for the Calix as well to compare it with Lissom, Spartacus and OSP blades :)
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After testing Spartacus a few weeks back I had taken off the rubbers and put it up as I felt that while being a real nice blade it just did not suit my style of play. Since then I did receive the Calix for testing and I decided to try Spartacus again mainly as a comparison.
I made a rubber change using Hammond ProB Max forehand and Stiga Magna TS II 2.0 backhand. The change is quite dramatic and a little surprising. While everything remains the same in my original review, the blade has become much more linear in feel and faster with the rubber change. Flat hits which I had a problem with Aurus Soft attached is there in spades with the ProB. Touch Game has vastly improved with the rubber change and I am not putting balls into the net as I was with the original rubbers. Spartacus favors harder rubbers in the medium to medium- range and medium to medium low throw. |
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Spartacus or Hannibal are suitable for short pips?
What other nexy blades are suitable for pips? I don´t like Labyrinthos |
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I am interesting in a Spartacus or Hannibal.
My actual setup is Nittaku Acoustic, Tenergy 05 max and medium pips 2.0mm. I love the control of Acoustic but I want a backup blade. What is most suitable for me: Spartacus or Hannibal? |
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