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cougar3219
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Posted: 10/25/2011 at 10:59pm |
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Does anyone know what blade Ma Long uses now ?
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liang1983
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PG 7 ?
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dingyibvs
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The consensus on the Chinese boards is that he's using the DHS 506, which is apparently used by most of the CNT(though not the A team guys, they tend to use whatever their sponsors provide). Nobody knows what he's using for sure, although it IS known that he is definitely using PG7's handle but he is definitely NOT using the PG7.
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ejmaster
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a chinese story.
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bluebucket
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I'd say there's plenty of conclusive evidence in the pictures that he's using a standard PG7. There's no reason why he wouldn't be
Edited by bluebucket - 10/26/2011 at 8:11am |
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it's probably just a piece of plywood from the hardware store and a PG7 handle
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dingyibvs
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Hey, I'm just passing along the info from the Chinese boards. I'll say again, the general consensus is that he's using a specially made DHS 506. BTW, I misspoke and Ma Long was actually using the PG3 handle, not the PG7 handle. If you can read Chinese you can check out these threads, for example.
In the first link, the mod of the "Equipment Discussion" section of pingpang.info, the most popular Chinese TT message board, claims adamently that it's a specially made TG-7. In the second link, the owner of the entire board states that " Lastly, you can see from this picture that he's definitely not even using the PG7's handle. You can see the big "3" on the handle, indicating it's PG3(image too large to be embedded): Of course, people don't really know for sure, as the guys from DHS have been pretty mum regarding the issue at least publicly. I think the only true consensus I can gather on the Chinese boards is that you can't simply can't eyeball the DHS products the Chinese pros are using, because there are so much handle-switching and specially made stuff. bluebucket: Do you really think Ma Long would use a blade that costs like than $20-40 in China?
Edited by dingyibvs - 10/26/2011 at 1:24pm |
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this is a chinese story from you. the handle is the handle one from the power g series. last series. and there is no 3 in the lens in malongs handle. it is the pg7 handle for sure. there are lots of pictures about it. it is obvious you didn't even had a pg7 in the hands. and yes ma long can use a 20 $ blade because the pg7 is as good blade as a 200 $ blade. |
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WTF's a chinese story? Are you trying to be racist or something? How about stop being a pompous a-hole all the time?
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DHS Ma Long = useless
PG7 + PG3 = Champion
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dingy go to ding to another place. you are the obvious man who does not hit one.instead of retiring ma lin and wlq from tt, try to be serious. not a dingy clown.
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Link not opening.
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Sorry, shoulda realized that hotlinking wouldn't work. Fixed now.
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bluebucket
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What has the price of a blade got to do with anything?, there are plenty of $10 blades out there that are better than plenty of $100 blades. The PG-7 has the right specs to be able to play at that level so why not?. If Ma Long was using a TG-7 they would have the TG-7 handle on it, that's a more expensive blade and that means more money for DHS. More money for DHS is the entire purpose of that company . WLQ has hardly ever and maybe never used a HK, yet most of the time he's using the handle off one, that's all about the money from HK sales. Same deal with Wang Hao, all of them use cheaper blades than DHS would have you believe.
Edited by bluebucket - 10/26/2011 at 1:30pm |
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ejmaster
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dingy, the link doesn't work but you can go to the ma long new blade thread in this forum and you will see a clear picture about ma long's blade.
the lens in the handle does not have any 3. i know you never had a power g blade. let me tell you this is the lens of pg 7 and power g series. the last ones. in the lens it is written power g in the colored part of the lens. ma long participates in the dhs pg3 advertisement of the blade some time ago. and maybe there are pictures of the pg3 handle related to ma long blade. but .... the blade ma long is playing with and winning with fits pg7 not pg3. you understand?.
Edited by ejmaster - 10/26/2011 at 2:23pm |
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Imago
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Thank you. Seems that you are right. Handle is from PG3, plies however could be from PG7 because the structure and coloring is the same as TG7 AL.
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dingyibvs
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I totally agree with what you've said, but IMO you're looking at it the wrong way. If he's really using a $10 blade, then that blade won't be $10 anymore because DHS would mark it up to $50+ and people would still buy it. In other words, it's entirely believable that Ma Long would use a blade that's WORTH $20, but it's not believable that he'd use a blade that COSTS $20. Handles are often changed for the CNT members, as you mentioned, so whether he uses a blade with a PG7 handle or not is irrelevant IMO. In fact, if you look at the very high resolution picture I posted, he's not even using the PG7's handle, at least not when that picture was taken(Harmony China Open I think)
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Rich215
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Here is a cropped version of that picture..... |
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dingyibvs
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Yea, it could be anything just by looking at it. Like I mentioned, the only true consensus is that you can't eyeball what the Chinese pros are using. Heck, there are like a billion different versions of the TG7 just by itself, who knows exactly what they're using? I'm just passing along what some knowledgeable posters on the Chinese boards believe Ma Long's using. I mean, if the owner of pingpang.info says that DHS told him Ma Long's using TG7 with PG3 handle, I don't think he'd lie, though the reps from DHS certainly could.... Personally, I believe that these guys are all using custom-made blades that none of us can purchase on the market.
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ejmaster
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there are several pictures about ma longs handle.
the picture of the handle in the wysman post in the thread 'ma long new blade' for sure is not that pg3 handle. it is the power g lens about the last power g series. it is the same pg7 handle. there is no 3. in the china nationals there is also no 3 in the lens of the handle. it is the same handle as the pg7. as i said ma long participates in the advertisement of dhs pg3. but the blade is not a pg3. so even having ma long blade with different handle lens, the blade fits a pg7. In page 3 in the thread 'ma long give up a butterfly blade' i already explained ma long's blade handle was at that time a pg3 handle because of the 3 in the atv picture. but it wasn't a pg3 blade. btwy: as a casualty pg3 blades now also have the lens without the 3.
Edited by ejmaster - 10/26/2011 at 5:14pm |
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DHS are as a business not very honest and not very good at getting away with it, damm lucky a couple of the rubbers they flog to the public happen to still play well despite not actually being used in international competition
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Ma Long should have his own blade. The DHS Ma Long
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He has his own blade, the "Hurricane Long"... He just doesn't use it ! Edited by johnny89atc - 10/26/2011 at 4:12pm |
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So if he was changing the handle, shouldn't he be using this handle? It looks better too.
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pics of DHS "506" reposted from here, all credit to the original poster TIBHAR, just adding them here in case they go down: http://www.sundns.org/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=311206 The above blade is (apparently) for sale on taobao for like $1500 USD, EJs get on it! Edited by chronos - 10/26/2011 at 9:22pm |
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How many more handles is DHS going to stick on a PG7? Seems like a DHS revision of a clipper. $1500 nice the 506 must have its red layers dyed with dragon blood and use hide glue made from unicorns .
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http://www.prott.cc/shop/Detailed.aspx?d=MaLongBlade
1000, 1500 dollars for a clipper. this world has definitely lost direction. |
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This is the regular PG3.
Lot of confusion with Ma Long. He must be sued for creating havoc in our heads.
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Love the responses; sa01, its ok, there are something like a dozen variations of oreo cookies on the open market, as the US space program falters; some differences in wood veneers and glue is refreshingly simple.
I don't think the 506 is that much different from the pg7 or other 7 ply varieties; remember, a trained junior, in China or elsewhere, would do serious damage with the most basic, quality control reject pg7, I think that's the important thing to keep in mind. Still its fun to see what the pros are using. |
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