The 20th Asian Table Tennis Championship (video)

gnome wrote: where can i watch semis online live.. i tried sopcast with sop://76.73.22.162:3918/6120 but didn't work.  nvm not in broadcast copyright range.. look forward to youtube clips..

interesting I never knew sopcast or any of the p2p players had regional restrictions,  where are you located?

CCTV5 on sopcast is pretty clear and crisp

It should be the 2nd set when zjk was leading 10:8 and overtaken by Malong that crashed his game

 

Women's singles semi-final:  Ding Ning - Li Xiaoxia

 

Who are the 2 players of the other semi-final? (Any video available?)

(Kuo Yan is one because she was in the final.  Is the other player, Liu Shiwen?)

Edited by skip3119 - 03/02/2012 at 1:04am

TTNoobie wrote: gnome wrote: where can i watch semis online live.. i tried sopcast with sop://76.73.22.162:3918/6120 but didn't work.  nvm not in broadcast copyright range.. look forward to youtube clips.. interesting I never knew sopcast or any of the p2p players had regional restrictions,  where are you located? CCTV5 on sopcast is pretty clear and crisp

No restrictions occurred when i tried through their website directly..
TVU player worked okay in the end, when i tried sop i got something saying invalid password and gave up instantly.

Good final.  Hopefully Zhang Jike was just really upset at the moment of losing and regretted not shaking right after he sat down.  I can't see them being buddies though, I see them as being like Timo and Maze in terms of personality.

Good job janus700 for the videos.  Thanks.

shaolinTT wrote: liulin04 wrote: I never liked ZJK, too much ego, especially when he doesn't respect his opponents when defeated +1 One earns respect not just by winning, but how he handles defeat.

I'm a ZJK fan.  If he were a quitter, he would have given up when he got kicked off CNT and sent to a provincial team for 2 years.  Ma Long plays the big points better?  Really?  Interesting.  How many majors does he have?  Ma Long plays well when there is nothing really important on the line.  2011 Worlds, lost to Wang Hao.  2010 World Team Championships, he had another loss in the final.  He does well in the pro tours, but does anyone really care about the pro tours other than the fact that it's just exciting to see some good table tennis? 
PS.  Do you guys really consider that lame hand touch they do in table tennis a handshake anyway?  It seems like everyone on here is a Ma Long fan, so I'm sure I will get hammered for this post, but someone has to take the other side.
#ZJK Current World Champion

McLovin wrote:   PS.  Do you guys really consider that lame hand touch they do in table tennis a handshake anyway?

McLovin wrote: I'm a ZJK fan.  If he were a quitter, he would have given up when he got kicked off CNT and sent to a provincial team for 2 years.  Ma Long plays the big points better?  Really?  Interesting.  How many majors does he have?  Ma Long plays well when there is nothing really important on the line.  2011 Worlds, lost to Wang Hao.  2010 World Team Championships, he had another loss in the final.  He does well in the pro tours, but does anyone really care about the pro tours other than the fact that it's just exciting to see some good table tennis?  PS.  Do you guys really consider that lame hand touch they do in table tennis a handshake anyway?  It seems like everyone on here is a Ma Long fan, so I'm sure I will get hammered for this post, but someone has to take the other side. #ZJK Current World Champion

Didn't see you much as ZJK fan but more of a ML hater

(Women's Doubles - Final) DING Ning / GUO Yan - LI Jiawei / SUN Beibei [Full Match]

I think Wang Hao is not as good as before anymore, maybe he really need to lose some weight, I think he is slower and not as active as before. Also he always lose the game when he almost win. He caught up playing against Zhang Jike from 1 - 3 to 3 - 3 and then the 7th game, he was winning 10 - 7 then he lost 5 straight pts. This happened to him a lot, same with the game playing Xu Xin in Qatar open. I just don't know why and how he would lose all those game when he was almost certain to won. I am disappointed at him.

Mike7381 wrote: I think Wang Hao is not as good as before anymore, maybe he really need to lose some weight, I think he is slower and not as active as before. Also he always lose the game when he almost win. He caught up playing against Zhang Jike from 1 - 3 to 3 - 3 and then the 7th game, he was winning 10 - 7 then he lost 5 straight pts. This happened to him a lot, same with the game playing Xu Xin in Qatar open. I just don't know why and how he would lose all those game when he was almost certain to won. I am disappointed at him.

rick_ys_ho wrote: Mike7381 wrote: I think Wang Hao is not as good as before anymore,   When was the last time that WH lost to non-Chinese player in any sort of formal tournament? In this criterion, I think he is still good, and his performance has been more consistent than MLong, MLin and ZJk.   Instead of saying WH is not as good as before, I would say MLong and ZJK (and maybe XX as well) have improved a lot in the last two years and WH does not have any advantage against them any more.

Edited by NextLevel - 03/02/2012 at 1:39pm

Zhang did not give up. However, Ma Long took a very strategic timeout at 9-5, stopping Zhang's rhythm. Sometimes Zhang plays better(last tournament), and sometimes it's Ma Long(this tournament). Nothing wrong with not shaking hands. A heated rivalry is what this sport needs. 

snerdly wrote: There is constantly debate concerning who is the best, Ma Long or ZJK.  Always the head to head record is cited by Ma Long fans, which is fine if all you are concerned with is head to head match-ups.  But overall the better player can not be judged in such a limited scope. Ma Long has been in two World Cup singles competitions, didn't made it to the finals either time. ZJK has been in two World Cup singles competitions, made it to the finals both times and won it the second time. Ma Long Has been in three World Championship singles competitions, never made it to the finals. ZJK has been in one World Championship singles competition and won the Championship title.  BTW, in winning the title ZJK beat three of the four players who defeated Ma Long and prevented him from ever making it to the finals in these events. Making the final  Ma - 0 for 5:  ZJK - 3 for 3 Winning the title Ma - 0 for 5:  ZJK - 2 for 3 Another measure would be the China National Championships which ZJK has won the last two times I believe; has Ma Long ever won this event? Recently Ma Long has claimed to have been inspired by ZJK's accomplishments and has raised his performance a notch.  Could it be that Ma would not be playing at this level if not for the presence of ZJK? Another issue to consider is that Wang Hao has gained weight and his movement has suffered as a result.  A lighter Wang Hao might make it a three way debate as to who is the best player; maybe even eliminate the debate altogether!

Again, none of this applies to the most recent version of Ma Long - no one is arguing that ZJK isn't more accomplished - since August last year, we have seen Ma Long play at a level that is almost unseen in TT history.  Focusing on titles cannot obscure this fact.  If Ma Long's level falls back and he doesn't get a chance to play the Olympics singles because of the new rule restricting spots from one country, it doesn't change the fact that winning 5 pro tour titles in a row is damn near insane.   It just didn't coincide with a period when he could enter a major tournament.  The ITTF Tour Final and this Asian Championship are the biggest events during the period of Ma Long's ascendance that he could play in (China was restricted to two players for the World Cup) and he won them both comfortably.

It is in fact to ZJK's credit that he was the one that broke Ma Long's streak, which leaves the debate slightly open, but doesn't obscure the incredible nature of Ma Long's consistently high level.


Edited by NextLevel - 03/02/2012 at 9:07pm