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Joola Timeless Outrageous Price?!? |
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ituning.technology
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Edited by jt99sf - 03/26/2012 at 3:56pm |
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roundrobin
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At our club, 2300-2500 players will use Tenergy for three months, then give them away to 1900-2100 players who will use them for another six months... |
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ituning.technology
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Thats very nice of them. What Club do you play at? =]
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AcudaDave
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exactly roundrobin...3-4 months has usually been the standard for players that use Tenergy that play even 4-5 times per week. Saying you have to change Tenergy every 3 weeks doesn't sound credible to me based on what most other players have told me. I just can't imagine wearing Tenergy out every 3 weeks, but then what do I know...I'm only about "2200"...not 2200 mind you because that would be deceptive of me to round my rating up to 2200.
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roundrobin
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Los Angeles Table Tennis Association How about you? Edited by roundrobin - 03/26/2012 at 3:08pm |
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ituning.technology
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I go way back since LATTA was at AYC about 12 years ago! It's a great club.
I moved to the East Coast now and I Coach at CLub JOOLA Rockville.
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roundrobin
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Hmmm... AYC member, former junior team member, now working for Joola... You must be Steven Chan. How's everything? I almost moved to Bethesda a few years back. William |
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Edited by Cho! - 03/26/2012 at 7:12pm |
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if you practice at least 4 hrs a days including multiball drills, 1 month is enough to make tenergy 05 lose its grip to about 60%
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jt99sf
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He's probably sponsored and gets the rubbers for free. I know a few sponsored juniors that sell their 'extra' rubbers because they can't use them fast enough.
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I've recommended several local players who do serious multiball training to have a beat-up training bat and a competition bat at all times. It's working out really well for them to prolong the life of their competition bat... I learned this from Zaman Molla.
Edited by roundrobin - 03/26/2012 at 8:43pm |
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"I have a high rating man" "haha man my rating is higher" who is more righter ? Idk.. I guess the way I see it if you hit as hard as a lot of the guys do in the 2500+range, it's a big difference from the guys down in the 2000-2200 range, and if you play seriously that often, and are that good, a worn out rubber to you is different than a worn out rubber to other guys. Arguments based on someone saying that what someone else is saying based on personal experience have to be wrong are just silly- at least the way I look at it. 3/4 of the entire thread now is completely about who has the higher rating and who would know better about something that both people are basically right about in their own way anyway. |
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peter79
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Which one is Steven Chan? the taller guy or shorter one? |
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ituning.technology
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Dang William, you are right on point! Well, I work for Sport Squad, LLC. On a side note, I am the shorter guy on that Vid. and that was when I was out of practice for about 3 years. . . -.-* I pretty much stopped playing about 2006 and started to go into Badminton. Let's just say the sponsors aren't as great as table tennis so I stuck with TT.
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AcudaDave
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If you make a comment about how great a product like Joola Timeless is, you should also point out that you are associated with Joola. That being said I've seen some videos on youtube that demonstrate Joola Timeless and it looks promising.
Also if you're a 2400 player thats great and I respect your level of play, but 2400 is still quite a bit lower than many of the best players in the US so a little humility wouldn't hurt. Anyway...I'm done with posting on this topic and it will be interesting to see if a $130 sheet of rubber sells well here or not. It may be great, and if it does last then maybe it's worth trying out for someone that likes anti.
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Dave
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jt99sf
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Nothing worse than a coach with an attitude. Hope it doesn't rub off on your students.
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jt99sf
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That's my take. Your take is that he's 22, lame excuse. The younger generation has much less respect these days IMHO and some people find it acceptable. So sad...
Did you really read his analogy ?
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AcudaDave
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you may be right fatt...but when someone says: 1) they are 250 pts above your rating, 2) maybe when you get better you will change rubber more often, and 3) "I'm not the best but I'm up there" it comes off as a little arrogant. Anyway I don't really care, but I do think you should say you are associated with that company if you're gonna post a positive comment about one of it's products. Ok. Peace out.
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roundrobin
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It's so easy to be misunderstood as "arrogant" in the internet forums... Sometimes higher-level players brag a bit because they also want to have some fun (not really looking for respect or trouble), just like countless posters here do anyway. It's really not a big deal. Men do this instinctively in person and behind other's back as naturally as going to the bathroom.
I've known Steven since his early training days with Grace Lin... You can't find a more fun-loving, carefree, and at the same time a more dedicated kid in schools and table tennis training than him, period. Edited by roundrobin - 03/27/2012 at 2:59pm |
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ituning.technology
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Thanks Round Robin. On the side note, I am just stating the truth. How often do people switch anti spin rubber? How often does everyone else change when playing with smooth? It is the simple fact that people complaining about the high price when it really isn't that much for the end user compared to the average Joe. I mean in my opinion, rubber prices now at $80 is about the same as me using BTY Sriver G2 in the speed glue era. I mean I used to glue every time I play, and Fair Chack/Noriko Clean/Haifu is not cheap. . . Usually I use up 1-2 bottles of glue (250ml) before I switch rubbers. let's just say $15 per bottle of glue? $49.95 + $30 = $79.95. . . . I am lucky to have been sponsored most of my career of Table Tennis.
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Since national team players' rubbers last no more than a week, I don't find 3 weeks that outrageous for a 2400 player. But I don't think you can use that logic to claim $130 for an anti is not expensive. Like someone posted in this thread, a worn out MarkV will last forever as an anti... Also, it's hard to believe you can have a very special anti rubber in the 1st place, as they're not like LPs that you can play tricks on the friction levels on the top/side of the pips, size/shape of pips etc.
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ituning.technology
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This is my personal account and has nothing to do with my work. And I agree 2400 is a bit low. Maybe I should play a few tournaments and get to 2500ish, rating is a bit inflated. But rating is just a #. Not really important to me. There will always somebody better. =]
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ituning.technology
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The top sheet is different, Not sure how they got it approved. It is not smooth. It is more like the flooring used at the Baltimore Teams last year. From reviews in Germany it is suppose to be amazing, but I don't use anti spin so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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thats good to hear RR and I'll take your word for it then. That being said the next time someone disagrees with me and I find out they are 200 - 300 pts rated lower than me...bam...I'm gonna just tell them to defer to me. Ha...just kidding. Glad to hear he is a good guy.
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roundrobin
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SC, stating the truth bluntly in forums will only make you enemies... It's often not beneficial to share your knowledge here this way, or at any other online chat rooms because established members will disagree with its validity just for the sake or stirring up a "discussion" with you.
I know it too well. Take it from me. The moment they think you said too much you'd be labeled as a smartass, regardless of your credentials. You have to be much more careful what you post than what you say in person. Edited by roundrobin - 03/27/2012 at 3:12pm |
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ituning.technology
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Thanks Round Robin for the advice. Haters going to hate. It is like what a person I respect greatly told me. "If you not doing it right, Nobody is hating on you" =] |
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Yeah, I remember seeing a pic of it. It's ... different than any other inverted rubber I've seen, anti or not. I'm just a low level player who only hit with anti once or twice for fun, so I guess I'll just let the market decide whether it's worth 130 dollar or not. |
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