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yogi_bear
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sorry haven't had the chance to use barwell
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Which one has better ability for looping? I know that the throw is more come from the rubber, but how about if I pair av7 with Rakza 7 (FH) and adidas P7 (BH)?
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FH: JOOLA Rhyzm (black, max) BH: YASAKA Rakza 7 Soft (red,2.0mm) |
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yogi_bear
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i'd use the P7 as my forehand and rakza 7 as my backhand if you will ask me. i find the av 7 better on smashes and drives, i like the av5 better for looping. you'll find the av7 more stiff than the ovtcahrov senso since the outer plies are walnut and the ovtcharov has colored limba outer plies??? not sure
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pak abu
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Octcharov Senso V1 has walnut outer layer same as av7. But the composition inside is different where av7 has thicker ayous core and OSv1 distributed almost evenly.. how does this will effect the feeling and speed you think?
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FH: JOOLA Rhyzm (black, max) BH: YASAKA Rakza 7 Soft (red,2.0mm) |
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yogi_bear
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probably the av7 will be stiffer due to the thicker core. if i am not mistaken the ovtcharov balde is very identical to the former waldner lagona blade and i found the blade to be ok in looping but its more on the smashing and loopdriving side than just pure looping.
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dannyreventon
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How does the avenger 5 compares to nittaku acoustic? Are they very similar? what are their differences? :)
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Timo Boll Spirit FH: Neo H3 Prov 39deg BH: Xiom Musa Stiga Clipper Wood FH: Neo Skyline 3 BH: Stiga Neos Sound ST Avenger 5 FH: Neo H3 Bh: Xiom Musa |
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yogi_bear
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danny, avenger 5 is very much different because it is stiffer and has a walnut outer ply compared to the acoustic. the nearest blade is can compare to the Av5 is the Yasaka Extra Offensive
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Machine_Head
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Master Yogi, do you think the AV7 pairs well with H3 neo?
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chroot
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I am using AV7 with H3 Provincial (40, 2.2mm) on FH. Very nice combination. However, I'm still looking for my BH rubber on this blade. Have tried several BH rubbers I normally like, but none of them works well on AV7. |
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yogi_bear
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i ahve not tried the av7 with the neo h3 but with the globe 999 national and it played very well
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Pongz
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Consistent with the 'Hulk' theme, i put a green sleeve grip unto my Adidas Avenger 7...
I only played it once, it was outstanding from the start, it exceeds all my expectation. I thought I will start poorly with a new blade and a two weeks break..... It is 7 ply but doesn't play like Clipper.. I was intrigued by the walnut outer ply and thicker inner core composition... the best way to put it, imho, the feeling is like the hinoki carbon 3 ply like Gergely, Primorac Carbon or Sardius but without the Carbon non-linear effect... what I mean is that it is stiff and solid excellent for blocking, but it is quite soft when you loop... best of both world.. Also another different, with walnut, it is quite crispy for smashing too not like mushy hinoki.. Cheers |
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yogi_bear
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a bit heavy because of the dhs h3
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Pongz
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No, Yogi.... perfect weight for me.... I used skyline 2 neos for both sides... The blade itself is 88gr... If the setup is too light, then it won't be as solid as now... it will probable vibrate...
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Butterfly Sardius
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piligrim
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how big is handle on Avenger Carbon? same as TB ALC or thicker,longer?
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frogger
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It sounds like AV5 is much like my Stiga OFF CR. I have heard many great comments about the Avenger 5. I'm in love with my blade. Perfect everything. The quality of Adidas blades looks superior. Now I need an AV5. |
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Pongz
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I don't have TB ALC but I have TBS... My Adidas Avenger 7's handle is thicker than my TBS... Almost the same thickness as my Primorac Carbon... All in FL...
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yogi_bear
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the AV5 is actually closer to the YEO than the OCR
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piligrim
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is it as thick as Viscaria? |
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frogger
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Thanks yogi, you gotta love those walnut veneered blades. YEO is probably a bit faster than AV 5 even though the composition is similar. |
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yogi_bear
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yup the YEO is faster by a few notches
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Pongz
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I personally don't have Viscaria, but I have tried my friend's one... In my opinion, Viscaria is almost the same as TBS... so AV7 is slightly thicker... |
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piligrim
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I doubt Viscaria's handle is almost the same as TBS ... It's longer |
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dannyreventon
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Viscaria's handle is more rounded. TBS is more flatter.
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Main Setup:
Timo Boll Spirit FH: Neo H3 Prov 39deg BH: Xiom Musa Stiga Clipper Wood FH: Neo Skyline 3 BH: Stiga Neos Sound ST Avenger 5 FH: Neo H3 Bh: Xiom Musa |
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piligrim
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I am talking about length. not about shape |
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dannyreventon
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Yeah, sorry about that, just noticed that now. They have the same length. :)
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Main Setup:
Timo Boll Spirit FH: Neo H3 Prov 39deg BH: Xiom Musa Stiga Clipper Wood FH: Neo Skyline 3 BH: Stiga Neos Sound ST Avenger 5 FH: Neo H3 Bh: Xiom Musa |
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Machine_Head
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I just got the Avenger Carbon today. I immediately glued up my used P7 on FH and Tenzone 2.0 on BH. I had a few quick hits against my gf who is a decent blocker. The blade I was using previously was Infinity so my initial impression will be compared against that blade.
This blade can really generate great amounts of spin. Doing serves with my old sheet of P7 is spinny. The ball curved sharply on the other side of the table. I wasn't able to get this kind of curve with the Infinity. Blocking was good and precise. The throw seems to be very high so I had to close my racket more. Doing drills, I noticed that if you hit soft the shot you get is really slow. But once you increase power the balls travels faster. I wasn't able to loop or do any other shots since I was just playing with my gf. Looking forward to train with this setup next week and I'll report back. Overall, my initial impression is really positive. |
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ttspirit
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Hello together,
if you wanna know, this are the dimensions of the blades: Viscaria ST : thickness 23,1 mm wideness: 30,5 mm Timo Boll Spirit ST: 22,0 - 22,5 mm 27,5 mm Timo Boll ALC ST : 22,4 mm 27,5 mm squarish ST Adidas Avenger 7 ST: 22,9 mm 29,0 mm more round ST than squarish but not as round as Donic blades How about Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive ST handle dimensions ? If you have more meassurements of other ST handles please let us know and share it. regards, ttspirit |
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