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Matt Pimple
Gold Member Joined: 12/03/2012 Location: Phoenix Status: Offline Points: 1995 |
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Thanks kevo! I personally do not see much of a difference with the new poly balls playing with the slick anti. There might be slighlt less reversal (5-10%) on blocking topspin but still massive so that people can't reloop. I think you actually get a split second more time on blocks which makes my game a little safer with the anti. So to me the poly ball works fine with frictionless anti. I have heard the same thing from some higher level anti players from Germany as well. I cannot comment on the transition to frictionless anti from LP because I actually used to play with MP before (Dr. N Diamant) mainly block and counter. I am afraid that you can't just test the slick anti like another LP or inverted because it is a totally different style and technique which probably requires a couple of month of adjusting. Dr. N actually sells a very nice instructional DVD (for only $10 or so) which shows the strokes very nicely. Dead/no spin balls are notoriously difficult with frictionless anti and I typically just kind of chop them back which is the safest for me. This is definetly easier with pips. In case you wanted to give frictionless anti a try, I would suggest to try a slow controlled one first like the Dr. N ABS. The Grizzly (with ABS sponge) is a little bit faster but still quite controlled on a sloer blade but for me was too fast on an OFF blade (blocks went long). In case you wanted to check out some videos of higher level Dr. N anti players search for the following people on youtube: Amelia Solja (top 50 world ranking!), Simon Huth (beat Ruwen Filus a couple years ago in a regional tourney in Germany), Jens Gester (USATT level should be >2400), Amir Ahmed (2nd division in Austria), Maik Schoenknecht (USATT level should be >2400)
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kevo
Super Member Joined: 01/16/2012 Location: ireland Status: Offline Points: 469 |
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Matt, thanks a million for the considered response. I agree that it will be a big transition alright. I know of Amelia and Simon Huth but haven't heard of the others. I'll look them up. I'm thinking I may try to, ahem, fiddle a bit with the pimples. If that doesn't work...or the pimples dissolve in a slick puddle of oil and UV light, I might buy a sheet of fric'less anti. PM me if you're ever selling one!
Again, thanks!
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benfb
Platinum Member Joined: 10/10/2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2709 |
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I thought ITTF made a real campaign to ban true slick reversal rubbers. I remember playing against someone with such a rubber a while back but haven't seen it anywhere since.
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LUCKYLOOP
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It would be comparable to a clean glass window. It works great for serve return and blocking. |
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Matt Pimple
Gold Member Joined: 12/03/2012 Location: Phoenix Status: Offline Points: 1995 |
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They banned frictionless pips and the frictionless antis came out after that ban. They are all perfectly legal. If you do not believe it why don't you check the LARC.
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ghostzen
Silver Member Joined: 08/15/2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 881 |
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You get some great effect from the anti. The guy you are playing really struggles with your type of play, sometimes he really appears to not know what shot to play or tactics to try and combat your game. Which has to be a good sign you are doing the right thing.
I know this has been mentioned before but it does appear from the camera angle that your serve has a very low throw up. Is that the case do you think or something with the camera placement?. I know these things can make serves look a lot worse than they actually are. I think from the Vid you should make your 2000 goal really soon hopefully . All the best. |
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benfb
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How much spin reversal do you get? My recollection with frictionless long pips was that they got about 90% spin reversal. By comparison, "normal" anti seems to mostly kill spin and does pretty minimal reversal.
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Matt Pimple
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I have never played frictionless long pips myself but other higher level guys who played both stated that you get a least as much reversal with frictionless/slick anti. However it was easier to attack with frictionless pips and in particular return empty/no spin balls. |
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ahsq
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NL, who are you, the white dude or the black dude? what is their rating please? I think i am similar to the two gentlemen in style......
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Their styles seem pretty different to me...
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Rich is around 2200 and NL is 2000+
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NextLevel
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That is correct. I would say I am around/over 2000 if describing myself.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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In the video, I exchange a lot with Rich so his comment makes sense in the context of that specific match.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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NextLevel
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"The black dude" ... and I don't always play that way - just this particular opponent.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Vlad0
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OK i know that you don't take advices but i can't hold anymore ... I can't see anything scary in your opponent - normal guy knowing well his racket. Everything in your game is wrong man. Look at your service. WTF is this ? I can attack almost every serve from you. They are too long and without enough underspin. How you will create it with this movement? No surprise at all. Look at your legs - one line parallel with the table. How you can expect to make good powerful FH topspin and even with this stance you are in a hurry every time. Use your torso and wrist more. Wait a little bit longer. Look at you practicing without ball and how many times you did this in the game. These rubbers seem to be too fast for you. You are not confident at all. So many mistakes especially from FH. This is your weak spot. And try to bend as much as you can in spite of your legs. Sorry for the language but someone must criticize you. |
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illinichamps
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wow dude.. a bit harsh.. i think if we all video taped our matches ppl could poke holes in every point. we are all amateurs not pros.. i think nextlevel is doing great especially considering his knee condition..
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NextLevel
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Thanks for the kind words. It's okay. Usually, when people are healthy or improved/learned as children and don't have a chance to coach adult learners, these are the kinds of comments you get. Maybe if I posted video of my play from Sept 2012, then he would appreciate a little better how far I have come. |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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NextLevel
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Sometimes, when you don't know the level of the opponent and how he plays, some of the things you see do not make sense. But if you knew the level of the opponent, then you would be a bit more humble. Here is the not so scary guy taking a game off a guy who was one of the top juniors and a ranked player in France at one time: Here is a match vs. Puerto Rican national team member: So yes, my forehand is not the best part of my game but I played this match a certain way for a certain reason. If you look at my channel, you will see other matches where I played differently. But since you say you will beat me so easily (may be true), please feel free to share videos of you playing. I am not that good, but I have worked very hard on my game and I am not ashamed of it. Edited by NextLevel - 06/04/2015 at 4:53pm |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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Vlad0
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I saw the matches - he is uncomfortable opponent really. Next time you play with him try first with pushing mostly to see how it will go - short, long, diff corners, short underspin serve followed with long push to the other corner. In the first match the young guy adapted very well to win. He is scarier from both. Peace |
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Claudiu84
Super Member Joined: 10/30/2012 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 155 |
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What kind of rubber does mister Dewitt has on his BH?
Sorry for off topic! |
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NextLevel
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Well used Mark V on FH and BH.
Edited by NextLevel - 06/05/2015 at 7:22am |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Claudiu84
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:)) The ball leaves from that well used mark V as it goes from a SP or a very bad anti! Nasty sh_t!
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viva
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its an old old sheet of mark V
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Tk5
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Rich is good. Knowing him he would be very interested to know what you guys think his level is.
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Tk5
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You should of played rich more into his wide fh, his bh is good. you can't beat the guy if you try to countrer over and over to his bh. I played him one time. I did something interesting, which was I pushed out to him and let him open then I chopped his opening, for some reason he always placed the next ball back into my bh corner and then I turned and spun the next ball wide to his fh. You could give that a try except with bh since you don't really turn anyways.
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Eric Fountain
Super Member Joined: 12/07/2013 Location: Portland, OR Status: Offline Points: 135 |
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I may be either the same player as before or even regressing, with all the same old problems, but hey, at least I can try to salvage some cool videos out of it. 720p60fps setting recommended. Edited by Eric Fountain - 06/07/2015 at 6:09am |
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heavyspin
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Eric, I always enjoy watching hustle and you've got that. I think you can improve your FH push. With your style, you don't want to give an easy ball when you're close to the table. When caught with an awkward wrist position, use more arm and body than wrist to push. I thought the double arm wing spread to avoid being swallowed up by the curtain was terrific vs D. Ovtcharov. I rooted for you to make the run in kill, but unfortunately it didn't land.
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MindTrip
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Eric, I enjoyed watching your video. You play the style I am attempting to learn. |
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benfb
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Great Video Eric!
I would have preferred the video perhaps not quite so spliced up but it's still a lot of fun to watch. Easily one of the most entertaining videos in this topic.
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jackass22
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What blade does senor Dewitt use? I think, its something fast (off+).
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