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Mickael 
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 Posted: 06/25/2012 at 4:48pm |
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I had 2 one anatomic and one master flared two weeks ago. I am playing with the master. Both weights exactly 78 grams. It has a great feel, good service, nice returns. It excels in flicks too good to be true. Looping is very good it is faster than the acoustic and slower than tbs right exactly in the middle. It goes very well with medium rubbers it has very nice long trajectory and the speed comes from its lightness. I think it is very well suited for a third ball attack with a good serve. In the middle distance it has the upper hand. If you like tbs or viscaria and don't like the feel, or you played with the acoustic or violin and you need more speed this blade is for you. One more thing the finishing is finally good for a stiga blade and the sound it produces on loops and blocks/smashes is very nice, you will fall in love when you will hear it and feel it in your hand.
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VladiTT
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Posted: 06/25/2012 at 5:22pm |
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i have been playing with acoustic 6-7 months,2 months ago i switched to TBS
I like the feel of acoustic and speed of TBS but i`m not completly satisfied ... i will give a shot on a XO in thursday , |
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ejmaster
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Posted: 06/25/2012 at 6:01pm |
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Mickael, first you get in sometime ago saying that going from a korbel to an arylate/carbon was a big step. but then you got a zjk and you said it had everything and all the control. Besides your comparison and conclusions about the zjk and viscaria and tbs were imo wrong. so now after being the zjk blade the most wonderful blade ever build (something like that you told about it) now you buy not one but 2 (so it has to be twice as wonderful i guess) rosewood ox and for sure it is wonderful x 2. the finishing about having to sand a little is not a big issue but the quality outer and design are. it is weird the zjk and the rosewood ox which are quite different in building are the 2 wonderful. so lets wait to the next buy. more or less the same with imago. always the same procedure. putting the picture as saying how beautiful is and after a time the blade can be in the FS section. but in the meantime lets show it as it is a very good blade. so one can not be confident. imo these are not very valuable reviews but quite misleading and unuseful contributions. it would be good to have good reviewers, not the ones 'i buy something, it is wonderful'. Edited by ejmaster - 06/25/2012 at 7:55pm |
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ejmaster
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Posted: 06/25/2012 at 6:09pm |
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i can imagine if Mickael buy an ejmaster blade right after it would be the most wonderful blade in the world. maybe he has a better chance to hit the target.
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tabten5
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Posted: 06/25/2012 at 6:12pm |
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To be fair, Mickael hasn't bought the EJmaster wood yet. I'm sure he'll then realise that he's found the ultimate weapon.
Oh, and it's the Rosewood XO, not OX - that would be an entirely different kind of blade. Edited by tabten5 - 06/25/2012 at 6:13pm |
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ejmaster
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Posted: 06/25/2012 at 6:43pm |
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it is really difficult to get a conclusion from imago's reviews right after buying a blade. but up to now my impression is that he is saying between lines that the rw ox is not so good.
maybe i am wrong. someday we will be rewarded with straight words.
Edited by ejmaster - 06/25/2012 at 6:45pm |
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Mickael
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 2:35am |
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Sorry Ejmaster to tell you that you don't know which is a very good blade until you try it. And I am not saying zjk is not good it is good with no feel compared to rosewood xo and when I played it zjk xo wasn't invented yet. What you should do get a an xo try it for a few weeks and give us your full review. I tried it after mastering the acoustic and the zjk and trust me if wasn't soo good I wouldn't kept for 1 more day. Read my review carefully and see how it outperforms the zjk (less power of course) and it is more stable then the acoustic. And remember me when you hit and feel and hear its WONDERFUL sound:)
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Peter C
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 3:21am |
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Bearing in mind your liking for the Rosewood V and hence why it's in your signature; what are your concerns about the design and the quality of the outer plies; on the Rosewood XO? Edited by Peter C - 06/26/2012 at 3:21am |
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Imago
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 6:03am |
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Actually I prefer RW 5, but this is not because XO is worse, on the contrary, it is a very good blade with an amazing feel and sound, probably better than Acoustic. If its head was 160 mm (not 155) and cpen, I would certainy keep it.
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ojej
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 11:56am |
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which blade is harder rosewood v or rosewood xo?
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Mickael
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 4:39pm |
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Stiga claims xo to be a little bit stiffer than than the regular rosewood. Bear in mind that a good all wood blade gets better and better over time, that is why all the pros age their blade for more 10 years and have a subsitute of the same aged blade!
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ejmaster
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 8:55pm |
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no more comments about fantasyland. same with the reviews.
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EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh); InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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ejmaster
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 9:02pm |
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if the blade is very light, the outer maybe isn't quality thick. it happens with the first batch ebv and the last series. same blade thickness 5,7 around but the first ones the ebony outer is thicker and better quality so the blade is more sensitive and powerful and more weight. however the last ebv series are fast but harder and the outer is thinner and not so heavy and worse feeling. besides the handle maybe is thinner. in conclusion the light weight maybe means a variety of things. Edited by ejmaster - 06/26/2012 at 9:06pm |
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chronos
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Posted: 06/26/2012 at 9:06pm |
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ejmaster is a great reviewer, and tough to please!
I've tried rosewood a bit, not XO. I found rosewood to be a bit hard / undynamic, I was surprised that it felt perhaps harder than ebenholz? I didn't expect to have that impression but at least with the two I used the ebenholz felt like it had more dwell time, rosewood had more vibration and feedback but was more solid. And rosewood was lighter? On the other hand: control excellent, touch excellent. The feeling and feedback is really good. You get some benefit for offensive shots from the outer coating which I feel really adds some spark. And this is a thinner blade so there's a nice higher gear when you hit harder due to flex. But my overall impression was surprising, its a "harder" blade - obviously not very hard, just harder than I expected, I didn't expect to find the rosewood blade "harder", I expected soft. Whats the story with XO, is it softer compared to the regular rosewood? More dwell time? Or harder + stiffer? I'd love to hear more feedback either from testers of XO or just users of the regular rosewood to give some background for this new blade. Edited by chronos - 06/26/2012 at 9:08pm |
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Posted: 06/27/2012 at 2:10am |
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My bad I lack the paranormal extrasensory powers of those reviewers who can tell you the exact difference in dwell time or hardness between normal RW and XO. Frankly, I don't understand how a hard veneer like RW can display any dwell time at all. Besides, there are different sorts of Rosewood - African, Asian, East Indian, Carribean, Brazilian, with the hardest of all - Patagonian. And the softest of them is still harder than any Wallnut ply. Then why, for the sake of Amitofo, I feel YEO harder than any Rosewood?
That's why I don't trust anybody's review and beg you not to trust my reviews - if I ever indulge in producing a full-fledged one. They are all transcendental illusions of apperception.
Now, having said this, XO with two new T05 has more power and feel than our new TB ZLF. So I am going to sell the latter, again.
 P.S. And XO with M1 and 5Q feels and plays better than XO with T05. Edited by Imago - 06/27/2012 at 2:36am |
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Mickael
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Posted: 06/27/2012 at 2:21am |
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Rosewood xo is crispier more stable, for the short game it has lot of touch and feel,l also very good on flicks. When you loop it flex in a way that your balls land with tremendous spin and a long trajectory. Counter looping near the table is very safe. You can use it with lot of variations of rubbers and it suits every style for an offensive game. Who rosewood xo is for? For players who likes good feel (like acoustic) a stable blade that can do everything (stable like the tbs) and specially and the most important players who love light blades. Hope dear beloved players this review came to any help to decide your next blade.
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Imago
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Posted: 06/27/2012 at 3:45am |
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Only the gods among us possess the final episteme, what the rest of us offer is but doxa.
It is harder (according to my durometer) with more pronounced vibration in the low gear. This unique blend of characteristics makes it crisp and more sensual as compared to the regular RW.
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Posted: 06/27/2012 at 3:55pm |
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God (of everything including tt) chooseth of his messengers whom He will (to receive knowledge thereof). So believe in God and his messengers. If you believe and ward off (evil), yours will be a vast reward. Edited by ejmaster - 06/27/2012 at 3:58pm |
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tabten5
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Posted: 07/23/2012 at 11:09am |
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Here's my review of the Rosewood XO.
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Posted: 07/23/2012 at 5:15pm |
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really helpful review,good job
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Mickael
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Nice review I agree everything you said, but my setup is even better from mid distance. I am using calibra lt spin on backhand which I get more power when I punch the ball ( this is what you missed ) and on the forehand I get more spin from a medium + rubber which is acuda s1 turbo and more power of a little harder sponge and from the whole setup which is heavier than yours. And note That my xo is still balanced but with a calibra lt sound 2.0 on the backhand your setup is very light , mine is light and it differs a lot on each stroke. Note that the acuda s1t is like the calibra insensitive to the incoming spin but you can get a higher arc which is very crucial when looping from behind. I wish you could try it. |
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Last night, at the last moment before the start, I decided to try the Rosewood XO for our competitive league match. It was paired with Rakza 7 Soft Max on FH and Rakza 7 2.0 on BH. This is the rubber setup that I have used on the TB ZLF for some considerable time, so I know the rubbers suit my game. As expected, the Rosewood XO yielded substantial gains in the short game. In the doubles especially, I produced a series of very good flick service returns (it's always an advantage being a left-hander in doubles service returns). I was able to judge the amount of wrist flick required to overturn the backspin+sidespin serves very well, and better than I can on the TB ZLF. The Zylon does deaden that soft feeling needed. But once into rallies, mid-distance from the table, I struggled. Loops just did not have enough penetrative power, and more than a few times I was caught out with counter-topspins from my opponents. My BH was very controllable, and blocking on the XO with Rakza 7 is a dream - you could block in your sleep. I'd love a blade that has the power of the ZLF, and the feel/touch of the XO, but I suppose that's what a lot of us are after! Power and feel.
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Posted: 08/29/2012 at 4:20am |
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My answer to this quest is Avalox 500.
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Mickael
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Imago, what about hurricane 2(655). Is it the solution? Would I gain power without losing the touch? Thank you.I am asking because I like high quality build blades, and they told me that HK2 is high quality. Thank you.
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Posted: 08/29/2012 at 10:14am |
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Never tried it. I had only HK and HK3. The latter has both power and touch. Unfortunately, it has also a price.
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Posted: 09/09/2012 at 4:25pm |
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would this bat be good for an advance replacement to donic epox control?
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It is an advance replacement for anything but it is way faster than the epox control. Go for offensive classic and then to rosewood, that is what I think.
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Has anyone tried a RW XO with Tenergy??
I would be curious to get some color or hear any detailed thoughts on how this combo plays, especially when compared to Boll ZLF with Tenergy. If you answer, please include what weight RX XO it was that you tried |
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Which blade do u play with right now ? I use same combo of rubbrs..
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