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    Posted: 05/21/2014 at 5:42pm
Anyone has both and could share the comment?
By structure, they should be similar? Koto, Zylon Carbon, Spuce, Ayous?
How are they compared in 
Speed (counter and power loop drive):
Spin (looping):
In table touch control:
I have 2 ZXI and like them. I want to try SZLC but its price is kinda insane. Is it that good or BTY price tag?
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Its the Butterfly price tag. The SZLC is more balanced with heavy rubbers, softer feel and seems a tiny bit slower on touch shots and top end speed. The zxi can feel hollow on some shots, the szlc always feels solid.
Used a friend's blade with 05 and 05 fx

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So ZXI is faster than SZLC. Any Bty ZLC that is faster than Xiom ZXI?
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Originally posted by aroonkl aroonkl wrote:

So ZXI is faster than SZLC. Any Bty ZLC that is faster than Xiom ZXI?


A very heavy ZJK-ZLC perhaps? Why? You think that SZLC wouldn't be fast enough?
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I don't think that ZXI is faster than BTY ZLC blades. It is very similar.
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

I don't think that ZXI is faster than BTY ZLC blades. It is very similar.
From Bty table, SZLC is faster than TB or ZJ ZLC. 
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by aroonkl aroonkl wrote:

So ZXI is faster than SZLC. Any Bty ZLC that is faster than Xiom ZXI?


 A very heavy ZJK-ZLC perhaps? Why? You think that SZLC wouldn't be fast enough?

I am using 85g. A very heavy blades would punish my partial recovered elbow. Dead
Since changed to ZXI which is faster than my old off blade, my in-table game doesn't hurt much. Now I get carry on and see how far could I go. It also brings back old memory. Blast the power loop to kill feels good..LOL


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Originally posted by aroonkl aroonkl wrote:

Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

I don't think that ZXI is faster than BTY ZLC blades. It is very similar.
From Bty table, SZLC is faster than TB or ZJ ZLC. 

True. That's also the reality. So you can make your own conclusion between the SZLC and the ZXI  Wink
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

Originally posted by aroonkl aroonkl wrote:

Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

I don't think that ZXI is faster than BTY ZLC blades. It is very similar.
From Bty table, SZLC is faster than TB or ZJ ZLC. 

True. That's also the reality. So you can make your own conclusion between the SZLC and the ZXI  Wink
And $350 out of pocket.
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I think the Amultart is the fastest Zylon carbon from BTY.  My ZXi is a bit faster than my Zhang Jike ZLC.  It's also a bit heavier so not sure this is the rule or just my two examples.
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Background: I recently got my ZXI, so I am still getting used to it, switching from a decade with TBS's.

First time I tried it, I has also been given SZLC to try so I had ZXI and SZLC side by side for half an hour ( with different rubbers though). 
To me SZLC felt about 10% faster, even though rubbers were a bit slower. Especially hitting, it felt much faster with SZLC. 
Maybe because SZLC is also butterfly and less vibration, I got used to SZLC  much faster than to ZXI.
It is not the feeling but the balance that was much more similar to my old TBS.



Edited by iakovka - 09/08/2014 at 12:41pm

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Just got a ZXi ST yesterday with OV Europe/Tour. And have a JM SZLC ST with T64/T64 for a month. I am not a shakehand player so only bought these blades for collection and play for fun.

Have a play using JM SZLC with a shakehand player who is about my level when I use penhold and to my surprise I can keep landing the ball and win some points. Many shots I did not expect to land but they did. It is like magic!

Have a brief hit with ZXi today with a lower level player and I am actually having a hard time keeping the ball on the table. May be I am not used to the timing or whatever reason that I have to pick up my penhold blade to finish the game.

ZXi is 5.7mm and SZLC 5.75mm. Both are about 186g with 1g difference. Plys look very much alike side by side. Handle of SZLC is more square and beefy. Weight balance is very similar. Both are hard but ZXi seems a bit harder and SZLC with a tad of vibration and very slight flex.

Overall the ZXi seems faster because of the OV tensor rubber. It is so easy to play fast but control suffers a bit. Needs some adjustment to suit and it is no doubt an awesome offensive setup. JM SZLC with T64 is tame in comparison. It is so easy to play with. Just pick up and all will fall into places with great control. Very little adjustment needed. It did not feel fast but if you work for it it will give you heaps of speed and power instantly. ZXi seems to give more spin but probably because of the rubber. A swap of rubbers between the two blades and result may be reversed.

If I have to pick one than I will certainly go for the SZLC. But 1 SZLC can buy you 3 ZXi and I really can't say it is 3 times better. Still something can't be measured by money. What can I say...   

Edited by TurboZ - 09/09/2014 at 8:43am
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Xiom claims that zlc in Zxi and Vega series are the same as BTY SZLC.
As it is thinner that regular ZlC and weave in the difference pattern.

Choosing from performace and price
I choose Xiom over BTY.
I'm no longer an EJ and I'm proud .
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Originally posted by TurboZ TurboZ wrote:

Just got a ZXi ST yesterday with OV Europe/Tour. And have a JM SZLC ST with T64/T64 for a month. I am not a shakehand player so only bought these blades for collection and play for fun.

Have a play using JM SZLC with a shakehand player who is about my level when I use penhold and to my surprise I can keep landing the ball and win some points. Many shots I did not expect to land but they did. It is like magic!

Have a brief hit with ZXi today with a lower level player and I am actually having a hard time keeping the ball on the table. May be I am not used to the timing or whatever reason that I have to pick up my penhold blade to finish the game.

ZXi is 5.7mm and SZLC 5.75mm. Both are about 186g with 1g difference. Plys look very much alike side by side. Handle of SZLC is more square and beefy. Weight balance is very similar. Both are hard but ZXi seems a bit harder and SZLC with a tad of vibration and very slight flex.

Overall the ZXi seems faster because of the OV tensor rubber. It is so easy to play fast but control suffers a bit. Needs some adjustment to suit and it is no doubt an awesome offensive setup. JM SZLC with T64 is tame in comparison. It is so easy to play with. Just pick up and all will fall into places with great control. Very little adjustment needed. It did not feel fast but if you work for it it will give you heaps of speed and power instantly. ZXi seems to give more spin but probably because of the rubber. A swap of rubbers between the two blades and result may be reversed.

If I have to pick one than I will certainly go for the SZLC. But 1 SZLC can buy you 3 ZXi and I really can't say it is 3 times better. Still something can't be measured by money. What can I say...   

Hmm, my impressions are quite similar to yours. I felt there is a slight difference between ZXI and SZLC. Probably, and mainly because of the handle similar to my previous TBS, I got used to SZLC faster, but overall... pretty similar feel. Again, given the same price I would probably prefer SZLC, but the choice would not be obvious



XIOM ZX1 Feel 85 Gr, FH: XIOM Omega VII Pro, BH: Rakza 7 Soft 2MM
XIOM ZXI 88 Gr, FH: XIOM Omega V Tour, BH: Rakza Soft 7 2MM
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From spinning perspective I am very comfortable with ZXI but blocking and smashing...still can not get used to it after TBS.
Switching to SZLC  from TBS was immidiate

XIOM ZX1 Feel 85 Gr, FH: XIOM Omega VII Pro, BH: Rakza 7 Soft 2MM
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