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    Posted: 09/29/2014 at 12:01am
Only because several of you asked for it.  

Here is the video of the match that was the basis of my "Brilliant Tactics" post.

Edit: See next reply for embedded versions of the videos  

I urge caution in viewing these videos.  Your game may be damaged beyond repair if you watch them too often.  Do not watch while drinking any liquids as convulsive laughter and/or spit-takes can result in liquid damaging your keyboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjxZ861ezrc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOj3NwJccVQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6nH-eyuVz0

I am the one in Red and Black.

If you use double clicking on the play/pause button to play it a few frames at a time during my looping of underspin I think you will be amazed that I ever got the ball back with that technique.

If you play it a few frames at a time just after I make my stroke you will think the video froze up since I seem to just go into statue mode and don't even move until the ball is returned and almost bouncing on my side of the table.

I reiterate, I really,really,really hate video.  

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Thanks for embedding them.  

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mjamja Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09/29/2014 at 1:00am
Mts388,

It is clear your mother taught you that :

"If you can not find something nice to say, don't say anything".

Thank you for working so hard to find something nice in that mess.

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What direction do you want to take your game in?  Your game is pretty all round and suggesting improvements is difficult when you do a variety of things relatively well for an amateur player.  The things that you don't do well are also on tape, but the question is whether you would even want to play that way if given the chance.

I like your game.  In many ways, it's similar to mine, which is likely why we are similarly rated.  My game tends to look fine until I come up against the structured, highly trained looping juniors whose serves I can't return and whose loops I can't block (it's the ones whose serves I can return and whose loops I can block that gave me my rating).  The "invite your opponent to attack and if he doesn't, put away the ball and if he does, block the ball back to where he is not" is a popular game for adults who did not get structured training as a junior.  There is clearly a ceiling on the pure form of that game, but I think it is much higher than I thought it was.  You have more variation than I do on the backhand because you have short pips, but my backhand is more offensive than yours (in a good way).  I usually play the backhand diagonal more, but you felt comfortable serving long even into your opponent's forehand.  I also serve short more often, but I have found that serving short is a bit overrated if you have serves good enough to prevent your opponent from creaming the ball at you repeatedly.  That gets harder though as you approach 2000 but it is still possible.

What's your opponent's rating and how often do you play him?  One sign that your opponent wasn't putting you under real pressure is that you felt comfortable serving long repeatedly.  I will admit that on tape, those looked like good spin serves, even if a bit high sometimes.  What do you do in a match when your opponent is all over your serves?


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NextLevel,

My opponent is rated 1868.  He comes to the club irregularly.  Sometimes he only comes twice a month when his business is taking up his time and sometimes he comes twice a week when is preparing for a tournament.   Lately I would say we play about once a week and get 1 or 2 matches in on that night.  When he comes to the club he just plays matches.  I wish we could have some practice time together.

I actually serve short a lot and do pretty good at keeping better players from attacking me too strongly on the return.  My long serves are well disguised (in looking similar to my short ones) and do win me a lot of points against players up to the mid 2000 level if I use them judiciously.

Stylistically, I am trying to play more of a women's game staying close to the table, hitting off the bounce to put my opponent under time pressure and using placement to win points whenever I see my opponent get slightly out of position.  Right now I get stuck blocking (or soft countering) too many balls.  I need to be able to counter-attack more with strong Bh counters or quick off the bounce Fh loops when I force medium quality shots from my opponent.   I also need to improve the quality of my initial block of stronger attacks.   Just getting the ball back wins lots of points with the U1700 crowd, but I need them faster, lower, and better placed against 2000 players unless I want to be walking back to the barriers to pick up balls from kills I never touched.

The thing that would make me the happiest about my game would be developing more standard technique.  I am very into doing things the easiest and most efficient way possible in everything I do.  I like to understand all the little details of an action and be able to replicate them as well as I am physically able to do.  This has been true in my tennis, bowling, kayaking, and canoeing activities.  For example when rolling a kayak most people are just really glad to get back up where they can breathe again.  I on the other hand was often upset because I felt too much pressure on the blade, felt the blade move at less than the optimal angle, or realized my finish position was not perfect.  Same in TT where I often hit a winner and shake my head and mumble in disgust because I know that I used the wrong footwork to get to the ball, had an incorrect backswing, or over-hit and followed through too far.  The execution is as important to me as the result.

For a little while I was actually looking very good technically on video when I was doing drills.  For a couple of months before the Southern Open I stopped videoing myself and concentrated more on playing rather than drilling.  Looking at these videos, it seems that I have slipped back into all my bad habits that (in drills at least) I had overcome.  I am guessing that I never really got over my bad habits in matches and these videos are a good representation of how I have been playing for the past 6 months or so.  I will never be as quick as top players,  But I would really love to look more like some of the 50+ players who you can immediately recognize as having been properly trained even though they are no longer playing at the highest levels.

Mark - Headed back to hard work in the practice drill salt mines

 

 
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Mark, apart from serve, service return and stationary shots, even CNT players don't look like their drills when playing matches. Any challenging opponent will push your game to its limits and at the limits, form tends to be at the breaking point.

Partly because of health, I have had an off and on desire to achieve better form, on because of desire, off because of health. My compromise has been to continually work on better strokes and to the degree that something else facilitates the better stroke (getting into position before looping as opposed to looping while moving), I will attempt it but lose no.sleep over failed attemtps. It is good to have a perfectionist approach to your form if that motivates you.   But TT is first and foremost a battle.
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Mark, I would not worry about counterattacking too much.  If anything, I would focus on better placing and variation of your blocks.

With your BH, consider flat hitting a little more.  That will come very useful once the new plastic ball is everywhere.

Also, with short pips a lot of the serves you pushed back you can sort of guide/roll back to the opponent with spin largely scrubbed off and low bounce.

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