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Yes, that is a very good description of the Nittaku Premium 40+ Japan:  It plays exactly like a celluloid ball would play if it had a diameter 0.4 mm larger.
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I just talked to Paddle Palace and the Nittaku premium poly balls won't be shipped for a couple of more weeks.  At what point do they go to plan B?  A better question is, do they have a plan B?
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

I just talked to Paddle Palace and the Nittaku premium poly balls won't be shipped for a couple of more weeks.  At what point do they go to plan B?  A better question is, do they have a plan B?


I don't think it matters.  The Nittaku Premium plastic ball plays extremely similar to Nittaku Premium celluloid (which is what some people say we should use for this Nationals).  Players who want to do well at this Nationals should stick to Nittaku Premium celluloid until the Premium plastic is available.  I don't even think there's a problem if most players who are used to the Nittaku Premium celluloid balls are forced to use Nittaku Premium plastic balls for the first time at the Nationals.  They are that similar. 






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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

The Nittaku Premium plastic ball plays extremely similar to Nittaku Premium celluloid


This is something new. It would be interesting to know if they are actually made out of celluloid called by a different name. By the way, humble me predicted such a solution long ago Smile . It would be nice if someone could make a video of both balls burning. A kind of a test.

Anyway, what we can expect from a 40.2-40.4 mm celluloid ball of equal weight is bad durability. Someone said I believe on this forum that the durability issues were the reason for celluloid balls being made 39.6 mm instead of 40 mm.
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Originally posted by roundrobin roundrobin wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

I just talked to Paddle Palace and the Nittaku premium poly balls won't be shipped for a couple of more weeks.  At what point do they go to plan B?  A better question is, do they have a plan B?


I don't think it matters.  The Nittaku Premium plastic ball plays extremely similar to Nittaku Premium celluloid (which is what some people say we should use for this Nationals).  Players who want to do well at this Nationals should stick to Nittaku Premium celluloid until the Premium plastic is available.  I don't even think there's a problem if most players who are used to the Nittaku Premium celluloid balls are forced to use Nittaku Premium plastic balls for the first time at the Nationals.  They are that similar. 



Not a bad plan now that I think about it some (training with Nittaku celluloid to prepare for Nittku Premium 40+).

Still, it is not exactly like a celluloid because the ball is just a touch larger.  It plays like an ever so slightly larger celluloid ball, which means it is pretty easy to accommodate.  Nittaku says they are getting the material from a company called Toray Industries.  I have no idea what it is but I'm not about to burn one of my 40+ Premium balls to find out.  I have absolutely zero reason to believe it is celluloid, among other reasons because it doesn't look like celluloid.  Anyone who sees the circular reasoning in a previous post (not RR's) should take it for what it's worth.  (The reasoning goes like, "I predicted that this would be a solution, so that must be the solution, and so I will imply that this is the solution and pat myself on the back").

Update on durability of Nittaku Premium 40+.  Better than Nittaku SHA.  Not that different from celluloid so far, need more time and more balls to be certain.  Two of the 2450 players in my club broke one this weekend after about 1.5 hr of play, but they sometimes do that with celluloid too.
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