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nv42
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Lol, If theyr mxp was soo Damn differnt and so much more friggin magical to the commercial mxp then wouldn't tibhar just release that 'pro' version commercially and BAM! They'd be selling the best rubber ever in the post sg Era since t05 right? (considering that regular mxp is pretty much as good as t05). And yeah s2p isn't as spinny as mxp even though I do admit that it is almost as powerful in full fledged drives.
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there you go being a smart ass. Clearly their stash of MX p's are different from the ones you buy from whatever retailer. smh
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yeah, beginners like paul drinkhall etc
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mx p is like a beginners rubber compared to sigma 2 pro lol. Even though it's older than the Omega series; works perfectly with poly ball.
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And I'm a super fan of baracuda too! After my sheet wore out I tried many other rubbers to quench my ej thirst lol... Right now I find rakza7 a decent fit, kinda like xiom vega pro too ( I somehow prefer rubbers of that generation the most for my bh since plastic balls came out, loved 5q for cellu) . Though like many others, iv yet to find something spinnier than baracuda for near the table play, though im sure it can be beaten by many of the new rubbers away from the table.
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nv42
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Thanks for the compare Seguso! Love yua posts.! :) .. Don't want a lower throw, while a bit higher won't be bad, so jp01t out.
Btw, do any of the acuda blues compare to tenergy 64? Bascially need a softish and bouncy feel of t64. |
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I have tried the acuda p1 blue today, it is not also near to the mxp. The tibhar quantum is a bit nearer to the p1
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There is no Donic rubber similar to mx-p.
m1 is harder, throws higher, and is faster. Does not work on hard blade, whereas mx-p does. In short: mx-p plays like a much slower t05 with much less catapult. Donic has nothing like that. Edited by seguso - 11/27/2015 at 10:05am |
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+1. i have used in baracuda for around a year 2.0mm and max. if you boost baracuda this rubber can overcome any other. however one of the biggest con is the weight 2.00mm -50 grams(boosted 53) max 52 grams (boosted 55gr) since i tried baracuda i never found a spinnier rubber. |
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I've always wondered, do the pros use 2.0 rubber so they can boost it?
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If you want to use Baracuda at a higher level, booster is going to become your best friend so get 2.0mm.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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Tibhar has made a revolutionary rubber and it became, by far ,the most popular rubber of the brand. This is MX-P.
On the other hand , Donic's more popular rubber is still the old classic, Baracuda. |
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The mxp topsheet doesn't crumble or chip as easy as t05 but xiom rubbers are the most durable in this aspect from what iv tried. Well, for me, once both mxp and t05 are past their prime, I find mxp more controllable and easy to use and it also gives me more confidence to go all out whereas as an old sheet of t05 sends the ball out or on the net sometimes unless I tone down my shot. I found mxp better for serving when old ( when new, both are insanely spinny, so couldn't make up my mind). Also, mxp shrinks more than t05 I guess.
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I think tenergy has really good durability but MXP should be something close or even better at half the price. Mine is still in really good condition even after hitting the table hard few times. I think the topsheet itself might be more durable than T05, I noticed T05 topsheet started breaking at the edges faster than MXP. Can't really say anything on longentivity of the playing properties of both since I've only been using mxp for 3 months and never really killed my tenergies. Edited by DreiZ - 11/27/2015 at 12:35am |
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How is the durability of MX-P over something like T05? I almost bought MX-P but was afraid about the durability of the rubber
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nv42
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Been using mxp since 2 years and havnt seen anything that could make me change Hehe.. I'm asking this for a friend who was recently sponsored by donic and he can't ask for too many rubbers to try out for some reason, he Hasta just choose two.
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The m1 is easier to spin that is correct but it doesnt have the same feel as the mxp. Overall feel, spin and power m1 is different from mxp. I would rather take hexer hd over m1. People do not realize that the evolution series are a bunch of special rubbers. They are just above every other euro rubber in their class but the drawback is they need a better set of playing skills to use them fully as they were originally designed for sponsored players only. Speed is just one factor that m1 and mxp are almost the same but if you add in feel, spin, trajectory, gears and even durability you would only be looking for a rubber substitute that has something to offer which is a few notches lower.
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
Andy, iv tried the 5Q and it should be similar in feel to the 1q and since the jp01t is similar to the 1q. I guess I'll Rule it out. And since M1t is just a harder version of m1 I'll rule that out too since I don't wanna go more harder. Also yogi, iv observed the same thing too with the cheery red topsheets being more elastic and spinnier and the dull Crimson red ones being a bit stiff. After reading all the comments and especially from ppl who have used both for a considerable time I guess I'll go with m1! Appreciate the input eveyeone! Will update with my impressions after I receive the rubber :) |
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To add a bit, M1 is a bit easier to spin with.
A difference is that in MX-P, you derive most of the spin from topsheet. In M1, it is from topsheet + sponge. I prefer MX-P on FH and M1 2.0 on BH. |
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Donic Baracuda so far for me ;). But for a serious answer to the OP question, clearly M1. The people I see using it could just as well have been using MX-P and I would have not known any differently.
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I disagree - I've played with MX-P & M1 on both sides of 1 blade for over a year. M1 is at least as powerful as MX-P from mid-distance. It is a bit harder, has a bit more catapault on slow strokes and a shade less spin on full strokes. But it is the most similar rubber to MX-P from the Donic line. |
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Yeah, sorry. I was trying to be comical with the dye comment. Should have put a smiley in there.
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The evolution rubbers were released years before the current rubbers. As early as 2012 I think there are already evolutions rubbers in the ittf larc and we could assume they improved the rubbers before the sold it commercially.
I think I my be wrong but I do not think it is the dye, I think it is more of the mixture between the natural and synthetic rubbers for the topsheet. If you have observed among esn rubbers, there are those that have the bright red rubbers and those that have a dull red color. I do not know why a lot of the cherry red ones are very spinny or can be easily used to produce spin. |
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In terms of a direct comparison to MX-P, it is. Overall, I too much prefer more recent ESN rubbers for the plastic ball when compared with last-gen stuff like M1 or MX-P, and I find I get a lot more reliable spin/speed/power whatever from any distance with them, but that's just me. We all have different needs, and it's very difficult to say that one rubber is definitively "the best" for everyone.
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That's quite surprising, considering they're the same ESN generation, with the same hardness sponge, and the same factory boost, and visually indistinguishable topsheets. Must be the dye they use for the sponge colour I guess. Red has more power away from the table than blue.
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Did you try the Omega V series though? It's excellent and I can vouch in particular for the Omega V Tour with the plastic ball. I'm not sure how the MX-P fairs in comparison.
I can't bring much to the topic itself, I would have said the M1 to be the best candidate. |
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Nope. The tenergy users in my area shifted to the mxp and tried the m1 but found it lacking in punch. The speed maybe the same but other areas especially the spin and power away from the table, the evolution rubbers especially the mxp is the rubber to beat among tensors. All others cone short. |
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I dont notice any meaningful difference between them. I've been playing with blue fire for 3 years and now im playing with MXP. Maybe i felt M1 a bit faster at the beginning and MXP bit spinny, but you can easily switch between them without any hesitating
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I think the M1 has a higher speed to spin ratio than the MX-P, so on a slow spiny loop I can generate the same spin, but on a fast hard loop, the MX-P gives me more spin.
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