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lucifer
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if there's one guy I wouldn't trust to be using what it seems he's using then that has to be ovtcharov. a few months back he was using tape to cover the side of the blade! he's also changed the handle of his blade many times, more than any other pro player I can think of. Edited by lucifer - 08/05/2016 at 12:13pm |
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AndySmith
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Some people are almost like cult members when it comes to Butterfly stuff.
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amateur
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Here's Ovtcharov pretending to show his racket:
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/sonst/olympia-2016-in-rio-athleten-stellen-ihre-sportgeraete-vor-a-1105160.html (Scroll down for the video.) He says his blade is different from the commercial model (larger, more top-heavy), and that he changes it every 3 months. |
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TurboZ
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The famous 150 x 157mm. Can't say it is by coincidence.
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TurboZ
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That price is not bad for anyone living in USA. I paid about US$128 for mine from Dandoy assembled with Acuda Blue P1 Turbo both sides. Great matching rubbers with this blade. Very fast when you need it and equally fine to control where it land and keeping the ball on the table. Exactly what Americantabletennis is saying about this combo.
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asifgunz
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atta boy donic!
stick it to the moth lovers! |
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Baal
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I am still using my DTC after a decade using the Viscaia.
Still a great blade. Still exactly what I was looking for when I decided I wanted a Viscaria with a ST handle. I have no hesitation in recommending this blade. I have no idea if Dima uses it. It doesn't really matter. It is a very good blade. Essentially identical to Btfly ALC blades with a nice handle in a different shape that I like better. It is the only non-Btfly ALC blade I've tried that is every bit as good as Btfly. I've tried most of the imitators (but not Double Day, which I hear are good too). |
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tom
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could anybody confirm the wood used for the top layer. thanks.
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Wolf
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The top layer is a koto
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Donic Crest Off
FH-Donic Acuda S2 Max BH-Tibhar ELP 1.9 Donic Crest AR+ FH-Joola Maxxxp 2.0 BH-Joola Rhyzm Tech 2.0 |
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tom
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thanks Wolf, BTW the Joola Maxxxp I found more suitable for the BH on the Crest AR+.
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edgy
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Bump.
Has anyone figured out what the layers of this blade are yet? Also, does anyone know how it would compare to the Innerforce ALC?
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Baal
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ALC layers are close to the surface like a Viscaria, so quite different from Innerforce.
slevin has a couple also and commented somewhere on the essentially Viscaria-like playing feel of the blade, other than shape of handle. |
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Magic_M
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Here you can compare the composition of Viscaria, ZJ ALC and Ovtcharov True Carbon
For me it looks as if Ovtcharov True Carbon has the thinnest outer veneer of these three blades. If you compare the first (outer) and third veneer of these blades: - OTC = thicker third veneer and thin outer veneer - ZJ ALC = thicker outer veneer and (little bit) thinner third veneer - Viscaria = first and third veneer with same thickness I don`t know, if this is always a fact, but at least at my blades. The core seems to be kiri in each of these blades, but the OTC-core looks lighter. Generally OTC is thinner (5,5 mm) than ZJ ALC and Viscaria (both = 5,7-5,8 mm). Therefore OTC is a notch slower than the other two blades and the feeling is a notch softer.
Edited by Magic_M - 10/12/2016 at 1:51pm |
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DreiZ
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For whoever purchased a FL OTC can you post some pictures of the handle? Not that many good pictures of FL handle are online.
Would love to see a side by side picture compared to a FL TB ALC or Viscaria. Much Thanks.
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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
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NextLevel
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My thoughts exactly - thanks.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
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DreiZ
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Also ST handle vs ST TB ALC/other popular BTY and non-BTY blades.
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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
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Magic_M
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ST-handle-comparison: Spirit, ZJ ALC, OTC
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TurboZ
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Found pictures of TC FL in a For Sale thread by slevin. Funny the picture of Dima was replaced by Zhou Yu in the handle?!
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76922&title=reduced-donic-ovtcharov-true-carbon-scaly-koto Edited by TurboZ - 10/13/2016 at 4:13am |
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slevin
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I have 3 OTC that are 5.5mm and one that is 5.75mm. The 5.75mm one is faster and more powerful than the Viscaria. |
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Trade feedback:
http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=50787 |
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Baal
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I also have two that vary in thickness. The variability concerns me. But my thick one is awesome and fast. If somebody has a thick one with ST handle and wants to trade for thinner one, let me know.
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asifgunz
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because I failed to track down a FLared at 90+ , i bought a anatomic 90+ grams.
if anyone has a Flared near 91g and would like to trade (i can add esn rubber from my end, or cash) |
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mhnh007
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I will wait until they have it locally to see it for myself, but from M_Magic's pictures above of the composition of Viscaria, ZJ ALC and Ovtcharov True Carbon, I would have to say the Bty Blades look more appealing. As for the ST handle, it looks like the OTC has a wider handle (from above Pics), and may be better for those with a large hand, or those who dislike the SQ handle from Bty.
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tom
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finally got my hands on an OTC. Nittaku Fastarc P-1 FH , MAXX-P BH. The blade has good feel but setup is 176g = blade is probably on the light (slow) side. P-1 feels ok but MAXX-P feels slow on flat hits, ok for counter loop. Any suggestions for another BH rubber?
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asifgunz
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Loving omega iv pro on the bh.
This sheet is some 2 years old. Partly faded but damn it still grips nicely. Speed is perfect. Its much faster than my omega v pro. Im looking for a flared or anatomic 91g+ if anyone is selling please contact me. Edited by asifgunz - 11/08/2016 at 11:58am |
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tom
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thanks, will check if I still have O4P on a blade - remember it was quite bouncy |
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TT newbie
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I don´t know if it fits well with OTC, but the best BH rubber I´ve tried was Tenergy 64. |
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tom
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thanks, probably goes well but I decided against using T64 because it plays all by itself (hiding my stroke shortcomings)
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edgy
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The True Carbon is currently on weekly special at TT11 for $66. Flared handle in stock. Snap them up before they disappear again!
http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/donic-ovtcharov-true-carbon
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notgooord
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I see 74eur +shipping Edited by notgooord - 12/12/2016 at 9:01am |
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edgy
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I take it you are in Europe? Because 74 eur is the price including VAT. Without VAT, which we don't have to pay in the US, is 62.44 eur (or about $66USD).
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