want Excessively tacky rubber

I have now used pf4 for two hours. one hour of practice and one of play.

sorry to say but it did not get tackier. it has about the same amount of tack as 729fx, geospin tacky, h2 etc. imo what i would call mild tack.

still looking for the flypaper tacky topsheet :)

dropping a ball on it and it bounces once and settles. no bounce at all.

neither are very tacky out of the box. will pick up the ball but not hold it at all.

both play very similary with pf4 being a little more dead(more control) 

I tried the sword maze again after it had been under a rubber protector for 2 weeks. I am not exaggerating, it will hold the ball for a full minute no problem. we are talking about a well worn rubber here. if I ever find it im buying it by the dozen. 

 the red side is way more sticky than the black side even though normally people expect black to be stickier.

i put a rubber protector sheet overnight and it was stickier this morning than straight out of the package

Tom told me once that Chinese manufacturers were so concerned that tacky rubbers would play poorly out of the package and people panic on the "bounce test" that they started actually putting a thin coat of something not as tacky over the outside of the rubbers so they would play better initially.  I've seen a lot of rubbers get initially tackier before they got less tacky.  I wouldn't be shocked if this was the case with your experiences.  I don't believe that the plastics themselves (unless it's the kind with adhesive and it's rubbing off) are going to make the rubber tackier.

Hi all, just an update. I got the above sheets in. I havent used them in play but did peel the edge of the sticker off each one to test the level of tackyness and the only two that I would consider sticky would be the globe 999t type and the kokutaku 868 super tacky.

I will begin testing tomorrow starting with the 999s

Tacky rubber user here. On FH for more than 2.5 years now. Still using and have no intention of quitting. H3 Neo/H8/Big Dipper/Sanwei Target National. Played with each for at least 4-5 months, 2-3 matches/practice sessions per week.

I always use a sticky protector sheet when not playing, even between games, and always clean the rubber with plain tap water after playing. Once the sticky protector sheet gets dusty I clean with with plain tap water too. 

In my experience, this ensures the above rubbers stay as tacky as they were out of the original packaging. Haven't noticed any significant long term deterioration or increase in tackiness with either of these rubbers.

This was not my experience.

Interestingly she could never get used to the h3 formulation no matter how they tweaked it.  They ended up giving 729 a mold and letting them pour the sp formulation into h3 topsheets for her to use.

But the regular sp tospheet was never quite as tacky as the regular 729, and much less so than fx.  The version she used (and I got the leftovers) was less thick and less tacky than the stock version as well.