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    Posted: 03/28/2017 at 1:43am
I would suggest sticking to H3 Neo commercial with Haifu or Kailin.
H8 is harder and heavier than H3N and also throws a bit lower.
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Reporting back - my h3 neo provincial blue sponge has gone all in bubbling - I guess smth wrong with process of gluing top sheet and sponge together. It's so bad that even when I put off protective film (usual, not sticky!) before playing it separates top sheet from sponge showing me locations of many places where top sheet has gone off the sponge. For 50+ $ it's a total wasting of money.
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the only problems I had with H3Neo was when I bought from a different seller. All the ones I have had from Bribar have been excellent quality.
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if you have a choice with vendor buy the heaviest one you can get
those are the once that are tacky
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I bought my H8 when it came out. Its really tacky. Some fellas of mine bought three H8 from differend vendors and they are only slightly tacky. No comparison with mine
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I noticed something similar but it wasn't the rubber it was from switching to the new ball.
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The only consistency issue I experienced is the tackniness. When I bought H3 Neo Commercial 3 years ago, the topsheets is very tacky an I can lift the ball for about 5 seconds. 2 Years Ago I bouhgt exactly the same H3 Neo Commercial and the tackiness was still very good. Last month, I bought again the exact same of DHS H3 Neo, the tackiness is not even close to when I bought it 2-3 years ago. I can lift the ball only for 0.5 seconds. Then I bought DHS H8 and H2 Commercial, the tackiness also not good. They also can lift the ball only for 0.5 seconds. Does someone experienced the same thing as I had in using DHS Hurricane products ?
Does the manufacturer reduce their tackiness quality for a reason or it's only the inconsistency of production ?
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Just put H3 Neo Provincial Blue Sponge 39/2.1 on the Fan Bo ALC blade. It is exactly like I remembered it from past - my best FH rubber ever. I'll report back about durability. Hope it'll not be too soon with 4-6 hours per week.
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Icanget itfor you the nexttime I visit beijing. OrI canpmyou the shop number/address. The owner's son William, can speak some broken english but enough to communicate by email.
This shop was mentioned by forum member Jasonz andhas some of the best rates in Beijing. Selection is small though.[/QUOTE]
Thank you so much. This is my email: [email protected] 
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Originally posted by MVCSGN MVCSGN wrote:

Originally posted by ashishsharmaait ashishsharmaait wrote:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiInBrFf4inFgQHg9HlknnM199N7

Here are the photos, forgive the quality. I am not carrying my camera.

I want buy 1 sheet same your rubber. Can you help me?

Icanget itfor you the nexttime I visit beijing. OrI canpmyou the shop number/address. The owner's son William, can speak some broken english but enough to communicate by email.
This shop was mentioned by forum member Jasonz andhas some of the best rates in Beijing. Selection is small though.
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Originally posted by Schlager72 Schlager72 wrote:


Are you saying its a fake? I hope You've already confirmed the serial number on the official DHS site to make sure? Also did you raise your concerns with "Zhang" the owner of prott?
@ OP, Not sure if this conversation is welcome here....
  
I'm not said its a fake Smile. So they aren't similar i not believe.
I have experience when chose H3. I can see, smell, skull...but can't check serial number. Because i do undertand production from Chinese Wink
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Are you saying its a fake? I hope You've already confirmed the serial number on the official DHS site to make sure? Also did you raise your concerns with "Zhang" the owner of prott?

@ OP, Not sure if this conversation is welcome here....
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Originally posted by Schlager72 Schlager72 wrote:


Which version did your friend buy & what quality problems did he face?
This is H3-NT-Blue. It isn't similar.
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Edited by MVCSGN - 01/21/2017 at 12:39am
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Which version did your friend buy & what quality problems did he face?
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Originally posted by Schlager72 Schlager72 wrote:

Originally posted by MVCSGN MVCSGN wrote:

Originally posted by ashishsharmaait ashishsharmaait wrote:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiInBrFf4inFgQHg9HlknnM199N7

Here are the photos, forgive the quality. I am not carrying my camera.

I want buy 1 sheet same your rubber. Can you help me?


Check prott.vip
My friend had buy at prott.vip, but quaility not good.
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Originally posted by MVCSGN MVCSGN wrote:

Originally posted by ashishsharmaait ashishsharmaait wrote:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiInBrFf4inFgQHg9HlknnM199N7

Here are the photos, forgive the quality. I am not carrying my camera.

I want buy 1 sheet same your rubber. Can you help me?


Check prott.vip
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Originally posted by ashishsharmaait ashishsharmaait wrote:

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiInBrFf4inFgQHg9HlknnM199N7

Here are the photos, forgive the quality. I am not carrying my camera.

I want buy 1 sheet same your rubber. Can you help me?
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I think it not fake Smile
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https://1drv.ms/f/s!AiInBrFf4inFgQHg9HlknnM199N7

Here are the photos, forgive the quality. I am not carrying my camera.
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China is very well-known as a country to produce massive quantity of fake products.
Before, people there have taken very carefully their "reputation".
Nowadays, there is no reputation left, especially if you are foreigner.
There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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As luck would have it I am in Beijing right now, and have a Blue Provincial I bought from a very reputable store. Although I have given up trying to convince people, I will post photos of the rubber today.... to each his own I guess.
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likely fakes and all commercial just in different color. neo blue isn't sold via retail. also, when i bought neo provincial from stores, they were still not as good as the ones received from players. that's why i stopped using hurricane

also, perception of difference is subjective, depending on your level of touch and technique. i can feel the difference immediately between commercial and provincial even without boosting, let alone national.

for avg <2000, provincial may not be worthwhile. if you require precise control and a more elastic rubber, provincial is the most economic. national is not worth the money unless you're world class considering we have plenty of 2600+ using provincial.










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ashishsharmaait, Could you please apply photos of the topsheets and sponges of the rubbers. I'm affraid of getting fakes, buying DHS products. Did they change the serial code stamps on the sponge? I can remember it was something like P111215 something, that was production date bla bla and now on recent rubbers I can see something like different code of more letters and less figures like ADXA1145 something.
I'm talking about commercial Neo versions.
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Originally posted by ashishsharmaait ashishsharmaait wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Quote I was recently visited China and bought myself 10 12 sheets of commercial, 1 sheet orange provincial and 1 sheet blue provincial.


Amen.

I bought them from a very reliable shop which wad recommended by a forum member.

What makes you think they are fakes? I forgot to get photos, perhaps I will get them once I visit again in Jan 2017.

https://goo.gl/photos/WQCFvFEe89gLNk8X8

He did mean they were all "commercial". He did not mean they were all fake.
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Quote I was recently visited China and bought myself 10 12 sheets of commercial, 1 sheet orange provincial and 1 sheet blue provincial.


Amen.

I bought them from a very reliable shop which wad recommended by a forum member.

What makes you think they are fakes? I forgot to get photos, perhaps I will get them once I visit again in Jan 2017.

https://goo.gl/photos/WQCFvFEe89gLNk8X8
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Quote I was recently visited China and bought myself 10 12 sheets of commercial, 1 sheet orange provincial and 1 sheet blue provincial.


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Well, you might feel they are pretty much the same in short term. But the provincial or national will out last the commercial ones. I've personally used all of them, with the same amount of usage, commercial ones will get dull on the sweet spot of the rubber faster than my provincial or national.

For those who say it's fake, you can always stick with regular western or japanese rubber. After all, the H3 goodness is not for everybody.
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I suspect sone of this relates to both the legendary inconsistency of regular commercial H3 and to the fact you used to be able to play with anything if you speed glue it enough. Remove tuning from your test and see if they are reproducible.
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Originally posted by incarnation incarnation wrote:

I think the main the difference are the DURABILITY of the rubbers, I have play commercial version before and if you are high level amateur player and play 5 days a week, it will be dead less than 1 week. 

for nationals version you can play like 2-3 months. but the thing is I don't know how to spot whether they are commercial , provincial or national. it's very hard to tell. lot of the stores would fake it make the commercial and sell it as prov/National by changing the covers, etc. 

my questions is that where do you guys order H3 rubbers from for commercial/prov/national versions and shipped to Canada and how do you spot them if they are  Genuine or Fake?

They are all fake, even then "commercial" one.
There is a huge fake system, where the "pro" is better than the "commercial".

Please open your mind and think far beyond to that.


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