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Stiga Mantra S,M,H Rubbers |
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yogi_bear
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Not tried both rubbers but if they were made by daiki then they might have the same top sheet
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Yogi, are you ignoring me? Did I do anything wrong?
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yogi_bear
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I have already answered your question and if you read between the lines. It is not near to the acuda's feel that is why I am comparing it mxp
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Got it! Thanks alot 😀
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dabeda
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how about stiga mantra vs itc powercell series ? Thanks |
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Tiago8
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@yogi_bear, can you compare it with the ryzhm p?
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yogi_bear
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Mantra h vs powercell mp almost the same with the mantra h having a more spinny topsheet.
Mantra h vs rhyzm p, almost the same spin but the mantra h is more vicious to attack with, has a sharper arc and is faster. |
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Makelele
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Baal, in the Karis thread you said that you had bought the Mantra M. Did you have a chance to try it? May be a comparison with Evolution MX-P? Thanks. |
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Baal
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Just arrived today (Mantra M). Just glued them down on a Viscaria. Very nice packaging. (Note to self. Don't use Stiga attach glue again). Top sheet is brighter color than Karis, both red and black. Topsheet seems really grippy, will know more when I play, but like Yogi says, this topsheet looks really nice, I will be pretty surprised if this stuff is not super spinny. Sponge seems a little softer than Karis M. Inner pips seem relatively small in height but definitely longer than Karis, probably double the height (the pips on Karis are barely there at all). They are not very wide. Topsheet overall is considerably thicker than Karis, but still thin compared to many other rubbers. Not even the slightest hint of a booster smell. Not much curling when the rubber just lays there (less than I noticed with Karis). Can't say more until I play with it except that just bouncing ball on a blade suggests it will be a bit faster than Karis. Need to hit with it to be sure obviously.
I am comparing to Karis because they come from tbe same factory and I am using Karis M at the moment. After I play with it some I will try to compare it to T05 and MX-P. |
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Makelele
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I'll be reading.
Edited by Makelele - 02/21/2017 at 11:22pm |
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Baal
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I wrote about Mantra M in the Karis thread. You will see why if you read it there.
They are surprisingly similar overall, about the same speed (I was expecting Mantra M would be faster but it is not), but Karis is more linear. Mantra M is a good rubber. I very much wanted to like it. I am sticking with Karis M, though, even though the top surface of Mantra is very nice. (Rich and creamy, like a milkshake). People coming from MX-P or Tenergy will want something faster than Mantra M, so maybe they should follow Yogi and get Mantra H. |
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yogi_bear
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Baal, i think the Mantra M is better for harder blades.
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Baal
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Yes. Makes sense to me. Viscaria is soft. (However it is not slow).
Speed wise, Mantra M was a bit slower than ELS. |
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Olio
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Can you elaborate? I have a suspicion that it's the same as the Nittaku Finezip, which is excellent.
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Baal
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Dries too quickly. Took me by surprise.
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Kolev
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Can anyone one give a comparison(speed wise) between Mantra H and T 64. Which one is harder?
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Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3)
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Olio
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I've quickly tried Mantra H on a friend's blade. It's harder and faster than T64.
Mantra H will be even harder. Speed wise, I think Mantra might be faster (unboosted)
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Kolev
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Thanks mate. On my current setup I feel I need something harder than my usual T64, but not slower by any means. So I thought about Mantra H as a possible contender
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Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3)
FH: D05/G1/RX BH: Z2/D64/Ω7Pro |
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tom
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tried Mantra H FH on an Andro Wanok. Ren Off with ELS on BH. Not a lot faster than the ELS, good spin, great control. In combination with the top sheet , it didn't feel that hard. In summary a very good rubber. Possibly the best FH rubber for me.
In comparison to T64 (which I found to be suitable only on my BH) - from what I remember - a lot less bouncy.
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hidasjoki
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Mantra H is a lot less bouncy than t64. It might have a similar top end speed but overall it is slower than t64.
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Kolev
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Well, I bought Mantra H today and of course tried it immediately. It is one pleasent surprise.I put it on one of my balsa carbon and the combination doesn't feel hard at a!l. Super grippy top sheet, rather high throw and the excellent control makes it one of the best rubbers I've tried recently. I wouldn't call it a speed monster, but it is still in the OFF range. Not very different than my T64, although I haven't done very thorough comparison between both rubbers. I'll go in details on Monday when I'll have some more serious opponents
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Hallmark Carbon Extreme (x3)
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Saitama
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does it play like mxp?? speed and spin?? any comparison?
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Makelele
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I know it's off topic, but only a question just out of curiosity - why you found T64 suitable only for your backhand? Edited by Makelele - 03/02/2017 at 9:17pm |
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tom
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My BH lacked speed. I found T64 could compensate till my stroke got stronger. My FH did not need that kind of help. I felt it would hinder full development of my FH.
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Makelele
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Ok.Thanks.
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Believer
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Just saw a clip on YouTube showing Fan ZhenDong testing the Mantra rubber.
[URL= https://youtu.be/cZXb9adVxcs][/URL] Edited by Believer - 03/26/2017 at 8:00am |
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Mickael
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Interesting what does it says?
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Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
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Believer
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Check the comments section below and someone did some translation there
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kaesar
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Hello, how is durability ?, Does anyone still play with the mantra?
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yogi_bear
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the 3 versions are still good until now maybe less spin after 3 months
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