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    Posted: 09/13/2006 at 3:23pm

really is he a current player n ur description has made me more passionate to watch him play

dont worry hopefully i ll figure a way out ........

r u a registered (paid) member at megaload i think u have to be to upload any thing. ur msn id if u hve well have a chat?

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i have the videos i don't know how to put it here, he has a great style :) almost no attack
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u have not downloaded them? hmmmmmmm i want the videos bad and about ntaniel tsiokas i really wana see his game play is he a recent player? and

so could u upload it on megaload

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i have of ntaniel tsiokas he is my idol he the best player, and mastush*ta i have too but i don't know how i must send it?
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hey sluskas u got any videos fo ntaniel tsookas ans mastush*ta ? preferable paste me the links here of megaload if u know any i have some but u must have more than my collection
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i already saw that video, but i like the style of ntaniel tsiokas and mastush*ta much better classic defense
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thankxxx YATTP
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Here you can see one of the best classical defenders Shetinin on Google Video vs Baum (current world youth champion) and against Grujic.


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defensive i like better and is more fun, and there are not much so i wanna play like matsush*ta classic defense but i must atack to ofcourse
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Yea it's good to play defensiv but Offensive is always better in wolrd class.
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Originally posted by mrsultan mrsultan wrote:

i mean more or less the same thing and acutually there is no sides spin but the ball has a big time wobbling effect and it is almost impossible for the attacker to chop this ball

 

so its the movement i told?

but why does a attacker wanna chop a ball?

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i mean more or less the same thing and acutually there is no sides spin but the ball has a big time wobbling effect and it is almost impossible for the attacker to chop this ball
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?? what do you mean, you mean the movement that weixing does from left to right? that is funny i will do that too i think there is a little bit sidespin on ot, or you mean something else
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i think it is not possible with long pops i think one should take advantage of long pips like chen wexing do
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i don't know, i am just talking here because with LP i cant give backspin pushes fool
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any other?
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countertopspinning with forehand, and twiddle your racket and make lobs or lift from the table with bh, i try to do everyting, Chop with FH and BH, blocking also and pushing with fh(much backspin) and bh and there is no spin or topspin so that combination is good
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thank you anyother drills?
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i train also with my forehand against topspin, that i blok/ or lift far from table
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same here ill train more too n okay ill practice BH backpin but what should be my specific drill other than one side backhand chops , like i do In and out practie i.e chop angaist a drive one back hand and playing a drop on forhand any other drill in mind
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iam training even less my friend, but i will train more, train bh backspin
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Hey Guys for the Defenders in the house i would like to know what drills should i must often pracitice in my limited time these days im Giving my busy in Alevels examsn so im only practicing 3 days week about 1 1/2 hrs each

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i know the chop-blocks and flat pushes, but i also want to give backpin pushes with LP, so its sort of a short chop against a push of the opponent?
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I had this problem when first switching to LP too!!!! the problem is that with inverted rubbers the motion is really a push and it puts heavy backspin on the ball. the push with LP is like a mini chop and youre only continuing whatever spin was on the ball so its not as heavy as with inverted.

the other weird thing about LP is that you can do a lot more than push with short heavy underspin balls, unlike with invirted. You can chop-block where you make a vertical chopping motion right off the bounce. you can flat push. you can chop-push. and you can always flip it, almost easier with LPs.

hope that helps. LP's add a whole lot of dimension and strategy to the game.
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hmm i tried the backspin push with pimples, but alsmost no backspin, with slice 40 i give very heavy backspin that the ball , but when i push with the long pimples and then when the opponent pushes or attacks it gost almost always over the table(opponents who are bad), when i push or i chop a backspin ball againt a push it goes almost always in the net because of the backspin when iam using inverted.

how do joo se hyuk do that? pushing with LP much backspin..

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All offencive players should perish in the flames!!!! lol  J/K  You could always just stand right up near the table and put your paddle down and block like a sunnovagun.  I wouldn't know,  I attack every chance I get.

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I think your contact point depends on your stroke and how far the opponent's push goes. I'm not exactly sure which is better.
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o i have 0.5mm i hope it works

hey and what is the contact point, if you want get backspin push with LP, at the table or you wait if it is behind the table? 

i do with normal rubber behind the table, so gets much backspin with it and it slow but i see the pros do it at the table almost of the bounce

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yeah, the ball needs to be caught on the grippy sides of the lp's. feint 2 should work the same way as it is soft. note that all of my advice applies only to lp's with sponge under them. with the ox version, i'm not sure that it would work.
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