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DHS H3 Provincial looks normal? |
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Flobert
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Posted: 07/24/2017 at 9:07am |
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After boosting a DHS H3 provincial with two layers dianchi, the rubber looks really awful.
Is that normal? The rubber was new. I don't think so... This photo was after two days without a cover. Edited by Flobert - 07/24/2017 at 9:18am |
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ashishsharmaait
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Not normal, someone let it lie on cement after boosting.
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Shifu
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not normal :o
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Flobert
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So it's important to cover the topsheet during boosting?
Is it possible to restore and clean the topsheet? Edited by Flobert - 07/24/2017 at 9:43am |
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zeio
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Did you leave it exposed under the sun? Did you apply the booster to the topsheet? There is a fair chance you got yourself a knockoff...
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Viscaria FL - 91g
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Flobert
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No sun and no booster on the topsheet! ;)
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Soundoff88
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Think I am seeing a right hand palm print on the rubber. Need to check my glasses.
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Flobert
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Is it important to let the cover on the topsheet during boosting?
The seller told me its important to let the cover on the topsheet during boosting!? When there is a few days no cover, it looks like this... Is he joking? Edited by Flobert - 07/24/2017 at 10:18am |
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The soul of rock
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That's what happens when you leave the sticky Chinese rubbers uncovered for days. Using hand soap with water may help.
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Flobert
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But how you do that, when boosting and the rubber gets round? |
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The soul of rock
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Just like when you wash your hand.
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DreiZ
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This can happen if you:
1: put too much booster and booster soaks the topsheet through the sponge 2: put booster on the topsheet 3: laying the rubber while boosting it on some surface that can be affected by booster thus ruining the topsheet (most likely) We wouldnt know if its a knockoff unless we knew where it was purchased.
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iamj8
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Doesn't look normal. Can we see what the back looks like?
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A version of Hurricane 3
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zeio
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Can you take a few more pictures? The sheet doesn't look right, especially the bottom edge.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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assam
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Where did you buy it?
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Flobert
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Edited by Flobert - 07/24/2017 at 5:03pm |
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Buy it from prott... |
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1: i did one layer finezip before start boosting then did 2 thin layers of dianchi, 24 hours drying after each layer 2: no booster on the topsheet 3: rubber stays every time at the same position, picture above Edited by Flobert - 07/24/2017 at 5:23pm |
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Hmmmmm
Did you have maybe lotion on your hands (or another chemical) while boosting the rubber? A lot of fingerprints on the top sheet. I can't tell if this rubber is genuine or not, and I'm not familiar with prott products. Other forum members would know. Sorry Edited by DreiZ - 07/24/2017 at 5:40pm |
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Roger Stillabower
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Looks to me like you got glue on your hands and touched the top sheet.
Did it look like this when you took it out of the package ? Edited by Roger Stillabower - 07/24/2017 at 5:52pm |
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rocketman222
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Did you drop your melting ice-cream on it
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zeio
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Sheet looks legit on closer inspection. The blood-red(as in oxidized blood) stamp on the sponge is unique to provincial Hurricane 3.
What you see on the topsheet is called blooming, in which insoluble particles from additives such as sulfur and accelerators migrate to the surface of the rubber. It's a very common phenomenon for natural rubber. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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anubhav1984
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I can see a few fingerprints (that's what they look like) in the picture. I am guessing you had some booster on your fingers when you touched the sheet, perhaps? Additionally, this kind of oxidation does happen if you leave your rubber in hot temperatures. It isn't uncommon for chinese topsheets to get oxidized this bad. What i would be surprised with, however, is it not getting back to normal after you place the protective plastic sheet back on top of it (after cleaning this sheet with water and soap obviously) for a few days (hours maybe, if you are too anxious). Usually, when my chinese sheets get oxidized, it is because I did not have the plastic covering on top of them. It does come back to normal when I apply the protective cover back though. Also, the booster has a different kind of effect on topsheet (if you apply it directly on it, that is). It just makes it swell up really weirdly and it looks way worse than what you have here.
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chop4ever
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but the serial numbers are made up manually. That means the rubber wasn't from the product chain or it has been taken out before cutting and labeling. In other words, any small factory can make it. The stamp is very easy to make up. Pls note that, there are many different "prov" packaging but only one "market" packaging. If I can't copy exactly, I would make up a new one and say "this is the special one"! |
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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kurokami
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sorry that looks #FAF
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proSpin
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What are you guys talking about...... This is a very common scenario for hurricane 3 if you leave it uncovered and exposed to the surroundings. This can be considered as oxidation.
Don't worry, your rubber is not fake. It is genuine but just your handling and care wasn't experienced enough. Rubber characteristics is pretty different after oxidation... So if you dont mind performance changes, you can stick to this.
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iamj8
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Back looks ok. Front might just have been mishandled though the only sheets of h3 I've seen look like that are really old ones.
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A version of Hurricane 3
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jonyer1980
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You've probably got a bad batch. I had the same issue with a Thibar Grip S Europe I got it a few years ago.
BTW, do you have any previous experience at boosting your rubbers? Maybe it was your fault because of overboosted Edited by jonyer1980 - 07/25/2017 at 8:20am |
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Flobert
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I have no experiance...but the two layers were so thin, i cant imagine that the rubber was overboosted... |
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