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carbon v. fiberglass (glass fiber or fibre) |
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zeropong
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Posted: 12/29/2017 at 3:08pm |
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Glass is a great material but not as responsive as carbon. I think it is underutilized in table tennis blades, it really brings out the sweet spot and does not hurt the dwell too much, kevlar does the same but has snazzier marketing and can fetch a higher price:P
Glass can also be interwoven with carbon. One of the most fun aspects of carbon is playing with the "Modulus, Strength" High vs Low, it makes a huge difference in the way it feels and plays. In table tennis you may get someone saying it "has a different feel", but go to high end bicycles or carbon fishing equipment you can quickly see the huge differences in the modulus types. EDIT: that low modulus is not necessarily better than high, in table tennis high is good for mixing as fatt says with other materials glass or even plastic to mellow it out a bit. Edited by zeropong - 12/29/2017 at 3:21pm |
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Very interesting comparison with fishing gear. I have been using DHS Hurricane Hao 3 blade for a couple of years. It has one layer of fiber glass in the middle. It plays well with larger strokes, but quite different from Wood or Carbon layers. It is not a mainstream design in my opinion.
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Strength, weight, and cost.
Carbon has a higher strength to weight ratio, but it costs so freaking much. Fiberglass is much cheaper, but it is heavy due to a low density. When you combine the two, the weight advantage of carbon is nullified, yet the cost goes up significantly. The strength of carbon is high already, so fiberglass doesn't really add anything of value. That's why it is not popular. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Matt Pimple
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How can something be heavy if it has a low density? Please explain! Edited by Matt Pimple - 12/30/2017 at 1:39am |
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zeio
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Low density was a poor word choice. Rather, it should be poor density.
Carbon fiber achieves better properties at a lower density than fiberglass. With fiberglass, to achieve similar properties, you need to use more of it and hence heavier, due to its low efficiency in density. |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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al_111
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Yinhe Y-13 has 2 fiberglass layers, and it is AWESOME for looping;) Also, it's very cheap, so won't hurt to try if someone is interested.
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vanjr
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Tom, thanx for sharing. You have a lot of valuable insider info. |
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book4all
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What's the thickness of Fiberglass / Glassfiber used those blades?
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Baal
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My memory is that fiberglass does not absorb high frequency vibrations as much as arylate or zylon. That may not matter to everyone.
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lgxb
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We can also add dhs pg 12, 13. And 729 L-1.
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lgxb
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where do you see that? I thought it's just carbon.
Edited by lgxb - 12/31/2017 at 8:31am |
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http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48620&title=yinhe-mercury-blades-series
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al_111
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Edited by al_111 - 01/04/2018 at 11:45am |
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thanks. yeh, their Chinese version site doesn't have detailed info for y-13 either.
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Kolev
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One of my partners play with Donic Diablo. Lovely blade, quite light, flexible with a very good feedback
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