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larrytt
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Sorry, fatt, I'm not apologizing for your imaginary beliefs about me. For what possible reason would the moderators ban me for two weeks? You are the one who posted a series of personal attacks! There's a famous quote, "Accuse others of that which you are guilty." Assuming the moderators do not decide to ban me for no particular reason, you just promised that this will be your last post. Assuming you are an honorable man or woman and hold to your promise, I believe this forum just became a much better one. As to me trying to promote my table tennis career here ("we are just a tool for his tt career"), do you really think I need that at this point in my career? Do you think I'm some 20-year-old kid just starting out? I just got the USATT Lifetime Achievement Award. I have enough money in the bank that I don't need much money from table tennis anymore. Just about everything I do these days is volunteer work (want a listing?), and some people - look in the mirror - just can't understand that, and instead spend their time attacking others while hiding behind an alias. But boy, it sure will be fun now to be able to talk about table tennis here without these anonymous fatt attacks! -Larry Hodges
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Shame that this is happening right now. I know Larry personally because I have been a member at his club for years. He's a stand-up, regular guy like us, with a passion for writing and Table Tennis.
Honestly, the man puts in TONS of time and effort into the sport we love, more than we can know, and for little monetary gain too, he himself said. Hope we can all move on from this as quickly as possible. And go back to constructive discussions.
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larrytt
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Jesus, Baal, listen to what you just wrote. Earlier today a guy posts a question about Help for Tournament Preparations. I post a link to exactly the answer he needs from a Tip I'd written. For him, this was UNIQUE material. Are you saying you want me to keep this away from him and instead rewrite it in some other way, for no seeming reason, rather than link to the exact info he might be seeking? Seriously? Or the guy who asked about blocking, and I linked to something I'd written on that - again, it was UNIQUE to him, and probably helpful. When someone asked about his first tournament, I linked to the "Everything You Wanted to Know About Your First Tournament" article I'd written for USATT, which was UNIQUE to him, and was on the USATT site, not mine - are you saying that I should have instead rewritten all of that in different words, just to make it "unique" for you? This is silly. What exactly are you saying I should have done, other than linking to exactly the material they needed? I tried being helpful, and you and fatt made that impossible. You are a moderator and obviously do not want me here. As noted above, I'm gone, other than responding to certain postings that pertain to me. ADDENDUM - I see that Baal posted an apology and said let's drop it, so I will. But I still felt I had to respond to his posting about "UNIQUE" material as I did above. It's just irritating when one takes the time to be helpful and this is the response. -Larry Hodges
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Baal
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Hmmm. Interesting question. Probably not but it is a gut feeling and now I have to ask why I would feel justified in that.
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Baal
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Now I am sorry I brought it up. Forget I mentioned it. Like I said, Larry is not breaking any rules. I was just wishing he might contribute more UNIQUE material to his posts here. And maybe based on his response even that critique was misplaced. So I apologize to all and let's drop it.
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ThePongProfessor
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Come one guys! Let's please not alienate experts with a long track record of producing valuable blogs. TT in the US is way too small for these kinds of turf wars.
Incidentally, I don't like that users are using anonymous user names. Knowing who you are dealing with, including their TT experience and level, is very helpful to provide context to their comments. For example, impressions about equipment will differ whether a user is a 1800-level kid, a 1200-level player with 1.5 years of TT experience, or a 2000+ level middle-aged with 20+ years of TT experience (not saying any of them are better - they each have their own context and valuable opinion). This is one of the reasons why I don't put much faith in revspin.net, but a lot of faith in expert reviewers like yogi.
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mts388
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You have me confused with someone else. I've never sponsored a tournament. I did help the Boys and Girls club raise $150,000 for a charity TT tournament. I am an older guy who can move without a cane. |
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larrytt
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You wrote: >Well...I just see a 2000 player who has an ego the size of a semi truck, tries to fart higher than his a$$ and takes down with insults people smarter than him when he cannot match their intelligence because that's his only way to stay competitive: install chaos to cancel the opponent's advantage when they are ahead! Not my kind of guy. Sorry, fatt, that's insulting, and you know it. I don't know who you are and why you anonymously and with no provocation went after me, but fine, since this is the norm here, you win. Other than responding to perhaps direct questions (and perhaps future insults), and perhaps a note when the blog is back up, I'm gone from this forum until this type of thing is moderated. It's not worth my time having to deal with trolls, and yes, you are a troll in this thread. I also posted a helpful note in the "Help for Tournament Preparations" thread - perhaps you'd like to go there and post insults there and muck up that thread as well? I don't see you responding there with anything helpful. Would you like a listing of other helpful tips and suggestions I've posted here so you can mess up those threads as well? Seriously, the only motivation I can see for what you are doing here is that you are intimidated by other "experts" and so do what you can to bring them down to your level and/or keep them out of this forum. You have succeeded. When people wonder why so many top players and coaches do not post here, they should look to you, Mr. fatt, as a core reason. -Larry Hodges
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larrytt
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Jim T., fatt is not banned at my site, nor do I have any idea who he is. From my perspective, he's just an anonymous person going after me for reasons that I have no clue. It's possible others here know who he is and whether he's a table tennis expert or just a loud person, but all I know is that he posted a lot of unprovoked garbage about me. Yes, this is why so many top players and coaches stay away from this forum, and why I'm leery to post here. Think about it - I want you to go over all of my postings above, and see if there's a single objectionable thing. And yet two anonymous people - one a moderator - immediately went after me. Why? Apparently because they can. I don't know if they feel threatened or if these anonymous people have some grievance against me, but since they are anonymous, I have no idea. Take them and others like them out of the equation, and I'd be here regularly discussing table tennis, as would many others. I'd love to discuss the Butterfly alc blades with fatt - I use the Timo Boll alc - but how can there be any serious discussion with someone who posts as he does above? I guess I'm just too civilized. Seriously - you see nothing wrong with this posting by fatt? Are the forum standards this low? Does anyone see the irony of someone posting this type of stuff when it's pretty clear he is mostly writing about himself? (I really am curious as to who fatt and Baal are.) fatt wrote: >Well...I just see a 2000 player who has an ego the size of a semi truck, tries to fart higher than his a$$ and takes down with insults people smarter than him when he cannot match their intelligence because that's his only way to stay competitive: install chaos to cancel the opponent's advantage when they are ahead! Not my kind of guy. -Larry Hodges
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JimT
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fatt, if you are unhappy with Larry's comments on his own blog then you should take it up there. If you are banned there (I don't know if that is so, just a guess?), and you are claiming that Larry did what you said he did then perhaps a short example is in order instead of simply venting (and using a rather inappropriate language). Larry, I saw your report and I understand that language and behavior standards at your blog are higher (per the owner's rules, of course) - however here we are slightly more tolerant of such insults unless it goes beyond simply offensive or there is an annoying pattern of bad forum behavior. I ask you to ignore this for now, but if you know what fatt is referring to, perhaps you could address that issue with him here. Hopefully he will try to keep bad language out of his arguments... this time.
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bard romance
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Very subjective to say that jackwong ranting about Wong Chun Ting like a lunatic for years on end is funny and/or remotely decent content. Are you the arbiter of MyTT folklore or something? How many times Baal has described the differences between ALC blades absolutely is relevant because slevin was talking about how someone can either retype their same points over and over again, or just link to another post where they have addressed the exact same subject matter and no harm would be done. When the inevitable next TB ALC vs Viscaria thread comes up, Baal could easily link to another one of his many (informative) posts he's done on the matter and that would serve just fine for the sake of information exchange. If you don't think thats a fair comparison to Larry linking to his blog then re-read his post on how he has next to no financial motivation to do so. Furthermore Larry is not "posing" as a superior table tennis authority. It's a pretty undeniable fact he has much more experience and insider knowledge than most people who post on this forum. You can take anyone's post at face value but let's not act like he doesn't have a lot more background than your average MyTT poster. What is your point about not taking criticism lightly and former flame wars? Clearly you have a bone to pick with the guy rather than any unbiased commentary on the issue at hand which is about linking to outside posts. Perhaps some people here would rather have a forum where credibility comes in the form of reputation, experience or knowledge instead of post count. And some people will lament the fact that virtually all high level players and coaches in the sport hardly touch this place even though many are aware of its existence. Edited by bard romance - 07/17/2018 at 2:20pm |
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larrytt
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And now you see why I don't post here too often. I guess I'll have to report this post and see if this is the norm here. Regarding Marco Borrillo, yes, I had many skirmishes with him, but he was a troll, and he was banned from this forum and others - I believe permanently. I was not because I did not sink to his level, as Mr. Fatt is doing here. I guess now, at age 58, I'm probably only about 2000 level (due to age plus shoulder and arm problems and no longer training), but for the record, I haven't lost a tournament match to a player rated under 2000 since the 1980s, and I used to be closer to 2300 and top 20 in the U.S. at my best. But since I'm primarily a coach and writer, perhaps you should judge me on that basis? Or just throw out insults, Mr. Fatt? Jeez. I love it when people throw out empty insults like this while hiding behind anonymity. -Larry Hodges
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mts388
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I like Larry's posts because they are usually informative. I can pick and choose what I want to read.
There are many posters here who go on and on about balls, rubbers, blades, etc. that don't interest me at all, but I'm fine with them posting here. I'm glad you told me that zieo and Jackwong were funny, I didn't know that they were. Marco had flame wars with everyone that posted here. Edited by mts388 - 07/17/2018 at 2:20pm |
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slevin
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Baal: I'm surprised by your stance here. larrytt provides some of the highest quality TT news and coaching one can get in the US. So, if he wants to post to point to those writings, I say happily accept it. It is better TT content than zeio and jackwong23 incessantly harping about WCT or my rambling about the latest blades / rubbers. It is better TT content than your describing ALC blade differences for the 104th time. You can't chide him for not wanting to post much else - that is his prerogative of what he does in his time.
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Ieyasu
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BTW, I too cannot access Larry's blog either through the URL he posted, or the following two, I usually use:
http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/blog/3 http://www.tabletenniscoaching.com/blog Those URL's still return the "No blog entries have been created" message. It is definitely NOT a browser cache or "proliferation thing" [DNS] issue.
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larrytt
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As I noted above, I've done 587 postings here (590 now), and about 15 of them mention my blog. That's about 2.5%. And yet you wrote, "I have come to notice that the main reason you post here is to plug your own blog." That was very unfair. It is because of potshots like this that I don't post here more frequently. As to quotes above, are you saying that when someone asks about the Butler-Carney match, I shouldn't link to where I wrote about it? That when people ask a question about blocking, I shouldn't link to a Tip I've written that answers their question? When new players ask about tournaments, I shouldn't link to the USATT page (not a tabletenniscoaching.com page) where I answered their question? I am a professional coach for many years, a national coach and hall of famer, and you don't want my input here on issues like these? Is there a rule against linking to informative articles that answer questions by posters here? I am thankful for forums like this that allow me to get the word out when a daily blog read by many table tennis players goes down for the first time in seven years. Is that against forum rules? (I'm still working on resolving the problem.) -Larry Hodges
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"I would just like to see you post some more stuff here that is not necessarily on your own blog or websites. I am just making a suggestion. "
Why should Larry have to post the same info in two places? Eg., where you quote Larry,
I see nothing wrong with dropping a link to answer somebody's question. As I'm sure you know, Larry is an incredibly busy guy. Better he drop links to his blog that might help somebody, than not post at all because he's too busy to post a customized answer. Here's a thread, http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=82736&KW=ieyasu&PID=1027617&title=mlfzd-warming-up-training#1027617 where, if Larry has the time to answer my questions, he will post it on his blog. Again, I see no need to post an answer in two places. I also see where one could consider this blog promotion, but I don't see it as aggressive promotion. And I would certainly prefer Larry respond in this matter than not respond at all. Of course if he responded this way to many threads, without providing an answer, I'd say it's too much, but he is not doing that, as far as I can tell.
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ThePongProfessor
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I for one, have no problems with (semi-)-professional blog writers, manufacturers and others periodically communicating with TT players on this blog, even if it is to promote their own blogs/products. Just think how cool it would be if we had access to the minds of TT professionals...
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Baal
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I would just like to see you post some more stuff here that is not necessarily on your own blog or websites. I am just making a suggestion.
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larrytt
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You're correct, pgpg - something's wrong. Some can access it, others cannot. Dang!!! -Larry Hodges
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larrytt
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I'll have to look into this. I'm hoping it's just a proliferation thing, but I'm not sure. I'll have my technical adviser look into it. -Larry Hodges
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pgpg
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Or may be they (400+ people) *tried* to read it and got counted in access logs . Looks like DonnOlsen has the same problem. I just tried it on the phone and got same result, 'access denied'.
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Hi
At 10 a.m. Eastern 7/17/2018 I just copied and pasted the URL into a new browser tab and received this: Access deniedYou are not authorized to access this page. |
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larrytt
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I know most people can access it - over 400 have already read this morning's blog. My guess is that when a site goes down, it takes time in some locations for the "fixed" version to proliferate. Try going to the site and then hit "refresh." -Larry Hodges
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Will you make the same comment next time Nexy posts here?
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Still does not work... Curious to see if I'm the only one. Wonder if it comes up for you because you are probably on the same network or logged in as an admin or something...
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larrytt
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I very rarely post about my blog here - please verify this for yourself. I only started this thread because I was out of town for 3.5 weeks and so wanted people to know that I was back to daily blogging. I then posted here when the site went down - since I couldn't put a note on the site itself, I explained what happened here and on Facebook. I was asked to post here when I blogged about the Butler-Carney match, which I did this morning. -Larry Hodges
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Larry, I have come to notice that the main reason you post here is to plug your own blog.
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larrytt
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The link above gives 'Access denied' message, and your regular blog link shows no posts... [/QUOTEThat's strange - it comes up for me. Try it again. (I've enbedded the link.) -Larry Hodges
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