Wish Butterfly Makes a "Super" Viscaria

Have you tried a DHS H301 or Fang Bo 2?

BH-Man wrote: Humble Bear wrote: Here is a point I wanna make: when making a winning shot, I prefer to make it with a little more speed.  Sure, winning a point whether slow or fast is equal to another point.  But I am an enthusiast; I enjoy hitting faster shots; I get a kick out of it; it's thrilling; this is my hobby not my career. I also have players told me they are afraid of playing with me because I hit very hard and that creates emotional pressure on them; not to mention often times I smash the balls into their bodies accidently ( balls land on table first ).   BODY SHOT !!! 40.5 mm  Hole !!!

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Tt Gold wrote: Sorry, but a 1800 level player doesn't need faster equipment than the stuff you're using. If anything he needs slower equipment.. You're better off improving your technique.

I don't have any videos not even a photo.  I play at a city creation center where there are only 4 tables in a very big room.  The regular players consist of pretty good players and many are club members from other table tennis clubs.  It's often crowded.  How we rotate is by playing a match, 1st to 3 games win.  Whoever loses goes down and the winner can stay there up to 2 matches.  I never have any rating but a club member who has been playing most of his life said I am around 1800.  He also said I'm the most "violent" guy at the place(though not the best).  He is a Chinese penholder and can use both hands very well and used to beat me with his right hand.  Two nights we were playing several hours and I learned all his tricks and he could no longer beat me on his right hand.  The next day he used his left hand and with long pimps on the back side switching back & forth and I could not beat him.  Last Sunday we played again using his left arm with LP, I almost beat him.  I would say I am now at around 75% to the top of the players there.

Edited by Humble Bear - 11/28/2018 at 12:15pm

Again, a video would really help to understand your style and playing level. How many us-rating points do you have?

purpletiesto wrote: Have you tried the ZJK versions with the same outer ply as the Viscaria? I reckon this might be exactly what you're looking for.

I am actually very happy with my Mizutani ZLC & SZLC; they are fast, spinny but with very good control and good throw angle.  With this med+ throw angle, I can do a very fast loop and the ball will still land on the other side without going long. Most blades with higher throw angle are too slow and to easy for the opponents to attack.

The problem is that several of the different plastic ball constructions upend the classic "slow blade for control" paradigm.

Edited by icontek - 11/27/2018 at 10:31pm

Humble Bear wrote: Here is a point I wanna make: when making a winning shot, I prefer to make it with a little more speed.  Sure, winning a point whether slow or fast is equal to another point.  But I am an enthusiast; I enjoy hitting faster shots; I get a kick out of it; it's thrilling; this is my hobby not my career. I also have players told me they are afraid of playing with me because I hit very hard and that creates emotional pressure on them; not too mention often times I smash the balls into their bodies accidently ( balls land on table first ).

You are not a looper, you are smasher. Because of that Viscaria, Boll ALC, Spirit, Maze, Freitas... are not for your playing style. Try blades for killing with 3rd ball attack: Schlager Carbon Off+, Gergely carbon, Primorac carbon, Amultart...

Here is a point I wanna make: when making a winning shot, I prefer to make it with a little more speed.  Sure, winning a point whether slow or fast is equal to another point.  But I am an enthusiast; I enjoy hitting faster shots; I get a kick out of it; it's thrilling; this is my hobby not my career.

jackwong23 wrote: piligrim wrote: Humble Bear wrote: I really like the feel of the Timo Boll ALC & the Viscaria but they seem a little too slow for me.  Why does Butterfly make so many ALC with the same thickness of 5.7-5.8mm but with different names (Spirit, TB, Viscaria, ZJK & etc).  I wish they come out with a 6.0-6.1mm version in the future.  Would you buy one? it't not slow for best players in a world like Timo Boll but slow for you? Timo is a pro and has good techniques, most amateurs don't

Edited by pingpungpeng - 11/27/2018 at 4:07pm

jackwong23 wrote: piligrim wrote: Humble Bear wrote: I really like the feel of the Timo Boll ALC & the Viscaria but they seem a little too slow for me.  Why does Butterfly make so many ALC with the same thickness of 5.7-5.8mm but with different names (Spirit, TB, Viscaria, ZJK & etc).  I wish they come out with a 6.0-6.1mm version in the future.  Would you buy one? it't not slow for best players in a world like Timo Boll but slow for you? Timo is a pro and has good techniques, most amateurs don't

so players without good technique should use faster blades then pro?

Humble Bear wrote: @purpletiesto:  I actually I love my SZLC, I am a EJ and like to have a good collection.  No, I'm not weak, on the contrary I hit very hard and everywhere I go they describe my shots are "violent". @jackass22: Freitas ALC has a softer limba surface and is slower per Butterfly website.  I tried my friend's Michael Maze ALC it's plays good but is kind of slow; it's almost the same except it's 0.1mm thinner. There is nothing wrong with the Viscaria to most people as is, but I just would like a little more zest to it and was bewildered why Butterfly make so much effort making almost identical half dozen ALC blades, why not make one that's thicker and faster.

This is a very good point. Yes Butterfly should have increased the the thickness of their alc blades, since we are playing with bigger and heavier balls these day.

A 7.00 mm Boll alc will be a dream blade for me. haha.