Wish Butterfly Makes a "Super" Viscaria

purpletiesto wrote: Have you tried the ZJK versions with the same outer ply as the Viscaria? I reckon this might be exactly what you're looking for.

Again, a video would really help to understand your style and playing level. How many us-rating points do you have?

I don't have any videos not even a photo.  I play at a city creation center where there are only 4 tables in a very big room.  The regular players consist of pretty good players and many are club members from other table tennis clubs.  It's often crowded.  How we rotate is by playing a match, 1st to 3 games win.  Whoever loses goes down and the winner can stay there up to 2 matches.  I never have any rating but a club member who has been playing most of his life said I am around 1800.  He also said I'm the most "violent" guy at the place(though not the best).  He is a Chinese penholder and can use both hands very well and used to beat me with his right hand.  Two nights we were playing several hours and I learned all his tricks and he could no longer beat me on his right hand.  The next day he used his left hand and with long pimps on the back side switching back & forth and I could not beat him.  Last Sunday we played again using his left arm with LP, I almost beat him.  I would say I am now at around 75% to the top of the players there.

Edited by Humble Bear - 11/28/2018 at 12:15pm

Tt Gold wrote: Sorry, but a 1800 level player doesn't need faster equipment than the stuff you're using. If anything he needs slower equipment.. You're better off improving your technique.

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BH-Man wrote: Humble Bear wrote: Here is a point I wanna make: when making a winning shot, I prefer to make it with a little more speed.  Sure, winning a point whether slow or fast is equal to another point.  But I am an enthusiast; I enjoy hitting faster shots; I get a kick out of it; it's thrilling; this is my hobby not my career. I also have players told me they are afraid of playing with me because I hit very hard and that creates emotional pressure on them; not to mention often times I smash the balls into their bodies accidently ( balls land on table first ).   BODY SHOT !!! 40.5 mm  Hole !!!

Have you tried a DHS H301 or Fang Bo 2?

Which viscaria did you use? The older silver ones or the new holo one? Because the new one is thicker and harder

Pr1nc wrote: I think Humble Bear doesnt know what he wants.

Humble Bear wrote: I really like the feel of the Timo Boll ALC & the Viscaria but they seem a little too slow for me.  Why does Butterfly make so many ALC with the same thickness of 5.7-5.8mm but with different names (Spirit, TB, Viscaria, ZJK & etc).  I wish they come out with a 6.0-6.1mm version in the future.  Would you buy one?

Humble Bear wrote: Not yet, but I heard H301 is slower than Viscaria and the grip is small so I don't bother...

purpletiesto wrote: Humble Bear wrote: Not yet, but I heard H301 is slower than Viscaria and the grip is small so I don't bother... Nope. Just put faster rubbers on a BTY ALC so you can use those "violent" strokes!

If one has violent stokes, wouldn't that mean that he doesn't need a faster blade, but could even use a slower blade, as he'd get more control but still has a lot of power since he has violent strokes? On the other hand if one wants something faster than carbon blades that professionals use, wouldn't that implie that the strokes are not violent at all since they have to rely on faster equipment. Just a thought of mine^^

If you try innerforce layer alc please give a review.

Sure, I am interested in trying out the Freitas ALC too if I can find a good deal on a used one.

Pr1nc wrote: Freitas ALC is like your Jun Mizutani ZLC without ZLC but with ALC.