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piligrim
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sound like even commercial hurricane 3 neo would be better |
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DonnOlsen
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In your described test above, are you sure you didn't mistakenly pick up your Hurricane 3 blue sponge racket instead? Thanks.
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Tenergy: Two weeks of heaven, followed by three months of excellence, then, a nice rubber.
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timoboll89
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i wonder why butterfly launched this rubber...
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blahness
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Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
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Da Baobei
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Anyone tried chopping with Aibiss?
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BRS
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I had first try with robot yesterday. I'm comparing aibiss to fastarc g1 that i used the last two years, and t05/80 before. This is on fh, I have short pips bh. Blade is acoustic carbon outer. You are right, most people will not like aibiss because it is so slow. It plays just like bty says, spin of t80 with the speed of sriver. High arc and low speed makes it really safe over net and on table. But unless people buy wecs-gzlc blades i can't see it being popular with speed demons. Aibiss is terrible for flat hitting. Stupid easy to counter topspin close to the table and to receive short. All what you would expect. 2.1 weighs 5gm more than g1. I will buy 1.9 next time for the weight. Off one practice I like aibiss. Not quite ready to sell my unopened g1s yet. But my priority is landing many balls on the table with spin and placement. Playing faster only gets me beat by my own pace as often as it wins. Whereas making more opening loops and keeping more receives short is just free points. In a lot of ways Aibiss is like the rubber equivalent of a five-ply all wood blade. It is not made to play from far. You definitely give up some highlight reel potential. And there is no magic in the rubber to cover up some faults like t05 or d05 can do. But aibiss may help you to put the ball on the table one more time than the other guy.
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blahness
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Sounds like a terrible rubber lol...
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Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
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arteepr
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I've tried it already on my belove blade Tibhar Fortino Pro . I usually use Dianchi D rubber as my main FH rubber and 007 Pro Selected on my spare racket and I just got a sheet of Loki Arthur Asia so I can compare Aibis to them.
Weight : Aibis > Arthur Asia > 007 pro > Dianchi Speed : Dianchi = Arthur Asia > Aibis = 007 pro Spin : 007 pro > Dianchi = Arthur Asia > Aibis Blocking : Aibis > Dianchi = Arthur Asia > 007 pro Stability on rally from long distance : Aibis = Arthur Asia = 007 > Dianchi Close to the table : Dianchi > 007 pro = Arthur Asia > Aibis Compare to pro Chinese rubber in my opinion. This Aibis is only better than them in blocking and stability while counter loop rally but on fast flicking or strong spin stroke it is make me disappoint a bit compare to lower price rubber.
Edited by arteepr - 07/03/2020 at 11:08am |
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Blade:Tibhar Fortino Pro ST 87 g
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achoomai
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My customer had already reviewed and compared this rubber with 007 pro. Sound interesting.
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My feedback : http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58844&PN=1#726094
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DreiZ
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Main:
Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
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DreiZ
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Might be awhile since NYC clubs are closed but I recently went to NJ since they are open by appt only so hopefully I’ll test it out soon.
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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
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blahness
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Let us know what you think! I'm really interested...
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DreiZ
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ordered one for my TB ALC for fh
Since my h3 neo comm sheet has been boosted already few times and used for a while I’m going to compare the two.
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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
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achoomai
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Anyone tried it yet ?
I know it should be quality rubber but just wonder how far from H3 provincial.
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My feedback : http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58844&PN=1#726094
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blahness
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I'm actually quite curious, because I'm looking for something better than the Hurricane 3 provincial orange sponge that I have for the backhand which doesn't cost a bomb like Dignics... the more spin it has the better....and it better have good short game control too!
Edited by blahness - 06/24/2020 at 1:43am |
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Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
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idk
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Maybe in your opinion. Not sure how that means that Butterfly made fraudulent claims about products and are in financial distress.
Edited by idk - 06/23/2020 at 12:23pm |
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andzejgolot
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Si, Hurricane blue sponge from DHS is still number one.
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idk
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I am talking about your claims that Butterfly is in "big trouble", that they are making "no extra money", that they "lied about Hadraw", and that "quality has gotten worse since R series".
Edited by idk - 06/23/2020 at 11:52am |
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BRS
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If you could list one rubber and say bty is in trouble because everyone likes new ESN rubber X, then bty would have a problem. |
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andzejgolot
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the larc 2015
hadraw https://butterflyonline.com/wood-with-soul-hadraw-blades/ 2011 https://trademarks.justia.com/791/01/dignics-79101916.html Edited by andzejgolot - 06/23/2020 at 9:17am |
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idk
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Got proof of any of that?
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andzejgolot
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Yall should listen how japanese and chinese pronounced
Tenergy Xdddddd Dignics and Lemuria was on Larc 5 years ago Propably Aibiss is old name too. Butterfly company has very big trouble. Social money for players No extra money from customers because a lot of us enjoyed Dynaryz anD Rhyzer , Omega V And Vii, Rakza , Bluestorm, Evolution, Rasanter V15, and Fastarc, so we will wait 2 months and they put Lemuria with old sponge and new topsheet because they need EJ money, they didnt care about customers until Covid..They lying about (2 years cost us to make project of Hadraw handle) they discountined blade because they change production costs and they rebrand blade and add different thickness and add different name just because. And they quality of blades looks worse and worse. Last good year of production was with R series...2017 |
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BH-Man
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Donn, as much as Like a lot of your writings, I gotta disagree with you on Stiga… their conservative styling is wearable for years and the newer stuff always connects to the previous stuff. Stiga gear is pretty much a sure-fire timeless choice for jerseys and accessories.
Fashion has too many whims.. I think Stiga really gets it. |
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DonnOlsen
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I very much agree with you. I still have trouble pronouncing Dignics. I thought too that Tenergy would lead to a new Butterfly era of marketing-oriented/artistically-influenced names that reflect the sensibilities and sensitivities of the branding brilliance you see in other products of other companies. [OK, I do admit that Corona beer didn't work out too well.] Something similar are the Stiga shirts of the Swedish National Team. Here is a great company with great products and a below-zero sense of fashion in their (20 or 30 year old design) shirts that have the equivalent appeal of the anachronistic Wimbledon White. Thanks.
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Tenergy: Two weeks of heaven, followed by three months of excellence, then, a nice rubber.
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mykonos96
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butterfly selliing a cheaper rubber its suspicious
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stiltt
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The folks at Butterfly are going aibyssal on us, surprise!
Edited by stiltt - 06/29/2020 at 1:58pm |
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passifid
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Almost tenergy was a good name as it came in with high tension and energy mixed together as well as a good product.
Dignics might make more sense in Japan Also spinart for a tack rubber makes sense. I'd like this to be rebranded under the Tackfire brand (take out the I) as like Tackfire for aibis and Tackfire X for the dignics would made more sense Rozena at least sounds cool even if it's meaningless
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igorponger
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I can get it all from cobbler's shop, just for a song.
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JediJesseS
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Tenergy is just as much a nonsense word as the others, you just already associate it retroactively with the successful product.
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LOG1C1AN
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For all their success, Butterfly needs help in their branding department. Tenergy was the perfect brand name. Sounds cool, and perfectly captures the spirit of the product. However, that was 12 years ago. Who is naming these recent offerings? Rozena? Dignics?? Aibiss???
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