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    Posted: 11/19/2007 at 1:51am
I just bought a new H2 commercial version and was applying EE2 to it. It was around the 3 layer of EE2 that i noticed that on the sides of the topsheet it seemed as if the EE2 had soaked through. I was worried if this was going to damage the topsheet. My conclusion was that it probably happened when the sponge began to curl and the ee2 collected on the sides of the rubber and seeped in between the topsheet and sponge...thats my guess and was wondering if it will have any negative affects on the rubber?
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No expert but no long term effects. EE 2 is not permanent. Probably for a good 2 months.
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I recall that JUIC recommends putting two layers of EE2 - one then another. Perhaps, that should be enough for your rubber...
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Juic Ecolo Expander II, requires only one layer of substance on sponge. Drying time should be 24-48 hours. Effect is arround 6 weeks. This info is per me. I am using it for about 18 months now with this metod and never did let me down. In my opinion there is not suppose to be any domes...
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Originally posted by WLiqin WLiqin wrote:

I just bought a new H2 commercial version and was applying EE2 to it. It was around the 3 layer of EE2 that i noticed that on the sides of the topsheet it seemed as if the EE2 had soaked through. I was worried if this was going to damage the topsheet. My conclusion was that it probably happened when the sponge began to curl and the ee2 collected on the sides of the rubber and seeped in between the topsheet and sponge...thats my guess and was wondering if it will have any negative affects on the rubber?

This can occur if you didn't allow enough drying time between applications.  Basically EE2 penetrated the sponge and got between the topsheet and the other side of the sponge.  It will turn the glue between the topsheet and sponge into some gooey stuff and softened and expanded the pips underneath the topsheet and it might create some bubbles.  I am not sure if this is what happened to you.  In any case it happened to me twice and after I glue the rubber onto the blade the bubbles went away eventually.
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I had the same problem, but I already know how I provoked it:
Normally it happened when you apply EEII to already cut rubber.
Most likely it will happen when you apply the second or the third layer, because is much easier for EEII to spill towards the edges of the rubber(and it will spill because of the dome)To avoid that put a kitchen plastic  film firmly BEFORE you apply EEII. Put the rubber on an absorbing  tissue and then apply. Use smaller amount of EEII per layer and be patient. The timing may vary
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Just an idea, when you apply EE2, have the rubber taped to a table or a flat surface. Then the rubber couldn't move and accidents like these wouldn't happened. Also makes it easier to apply more layers of EE2.
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yea i was thinking about taping the edges down but luckily for me my H2 was a new sheet and when i cut the rubber I cut off the edges where the EE2 had seeped in between the topsheet and sponge so it all worked out. And for the people who say they only use 1 layer or 2...y dont you just not put anything at all...but i guess thats my opinion
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Or... you could read Haggisv's big thread about the stufff...
 
 
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Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

I recall that JUIC recommends putting two layers of EE2 - one then another. Perhaps, that should be enough for your rubber...
 
It only works that well with soft light jap/euro sponges.  YOu have to use 3-4 layers just to see it starting to work on alot of dense Chinese sponges.  Taping is a great idea.  The EEII is going to make the rubber look wierd where it touches it, but it's ok man.  It will settle back down,  and return to normal.  When I get the rubber I trace the blade on the sponge of the rubber, and just treat within the tracing.  This has helped the run off the sides of the sponge when it starts curling big.  The area within the tracing will be about a half an inch or more bigger in every direction after you get done treating the sponge. 
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