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Hookshot 
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Pablogilberto,
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wturber
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Posted: 02/27/2009 at 11:59am |
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What's the point of playing with rubber? BTW, what's "normal" rubber. There are what - something close to 1000 different rubber sheets that are legal in the "normal" table tennis world? Now if you add sponge variations, that probably doubles or triples. That's one of the first clues as to why to play with sandpaper. The outcome of the game is much less dependent on the qualities of the racket or on your opponents ability to read the spin and possibly track the behavior of two different playing surfaces. The modern game, classic hardbat, and liha all offer different forms of table tennis. I find all three forms interesting. I play classic hardbat and the modern game. I can't say that the modern game is more fun than classic hardbat - but they are somewhat different. I haven't played Liha, but I do have a sandpaper racket in my bag ... just in case. |
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yogi_bear
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Posted: 02/28/2009 at 1:32am |
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the point in playing sandpaper table tennis? its one of the table tennis roots and they want to preserve it!
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pingpongrob
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Posted: 02/28/2009 at 2:59am |
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So how long does the ball last - It must get chewed up by the sandpaper.
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ZingyDNA
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Posted: 02/28/2009 at 2:48pm |
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I was wondering about that, too. It's obvious they can generate some spin so the ball keeps getting rubbed by the sandpaper. That can't be good for the ball. |
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Nutriment6464
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Wow looks cool! Hey yogi_bear, my mother is from philippines and she told me that "ping pong" is very popular in her ex country, do you think she meant liha or table tennis? I tried to ask her but I think she never was a big fan of it, so she don't see difference between the two :). Is table tennis(rubber paddle) popular in philippines?
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yogi_bear
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Posted: 02/28/2009 at 8:40pm |
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nutriment, actually its not as popular as basketball but a lot of people play that here. the ones who use sandpapers are the older ones from the 50's. we used to have a president who plays table tennis (sandpaper) in the 50's and he popularized sandpaper table tennis.
rob, yup i pity the ball thats why they have to change from time to time. they are using the 38 mm ball though because its much better with sandpaper and that's what older folks were used to before |
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yogi ------first of all thanks for bringing out again this philippine ' liha' issue
that we filipinos must be proud of
that we are the only remaing race on this planet that are able to preserve this art of vintage playing.
and has even "refined" it to the highest standard of vintage table tennis playing
after seeing this video, champions abroad who understand indepth table tennis abroad admits and appreciates who we are !
see:
(4th paragraph)
allow me to slowy answer some of the questions here.
 awan
the liha player and promoter
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awan
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watch this latest liha video made in the states. they are catching up !! liha is fun !---------- watch peoples faces , IT HAS AUDIENCE APPEAL try liha against liha - you will sweat, WET more t shirts without too much strain on your hand - therefore ---fitness ( EVERYBODY WILL ADMIT HERE ) THEREFORE : FUN AND FITNESS - 2 VERY IMPORTANT ELEMENTS IN SPORT its NOT a hi tech -"spin war" leaning mostly on "equiptment war" |
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JimT
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Here is finally the sandpaper match between Trevor Runyan (USA) and Maxim Shmyrev (RUS) - Maxim won the ICPP Classic tournament and said later that this was the hardest and closest match of the event for him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-hlWHYs_4k&feature=player_embedded |
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Tinykin_2
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Posted: 02/25/2011 at 6:41pm |
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See. You don't need long rallies to have an entertaining match.
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Just some quick background
that russian guy practiced all of 3 weeks prior to this tournament. The other players (Applegren, China, Japan etc) did not even practice. Those world class guys, with 1 month of practice will be as they are now, untouchable except by another player at thier level.
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Posted: 02/25/2011 at 7:49pm |
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liha is not frictionless, is it?
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JimT
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Posted: 02/25/2011 at 8:38pm |
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That is true - I was told that Maxim simply had a bit of free time, and he was interested to see if he could really master the sandpaper racket quick enough. I am sure that Appelgren or Martinez or some others could get to the same level or higher if they spent some time and effort on it. |
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ttEDGE - William
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Posted: 02/25/2011 at 9:22pm |
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Maxim and Trevor were the two standout players at the tournament IMO and it was a shame that they drawn in the first match. I did quite a bit of practice with Trevor at the event and was amazed by his skills with the sandpaper racket. He is quite used to playing with hardbats wheras it was completely new for most of the guys at the event.
The rackets we were using in Vegas were very fast, thick carbon blades with coarse sandpaper on top. Extremely hard to control and do too much with the ball. I think everyone agreed in the end that the rackets would be modified for the next event. By the way, the balls got chewed up quickly by the sandpaper and often broke due to the hardness of the blades.
I am very impressed by those liha guys. They've got skills! Edited by ttEDGE - William - 02/25/2011 at 9:24pm |
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Posted: 02/26/2011 at 4:09am |
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Russians have a good word for it - Lihach.
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