Playing with left hand for right handed people?

AgentHEX wrote: Generally upsets happen when one player is performing above their level and other below theirs (or in less common cases some kind of stylistic mismatch). It's not inconceivable that someone on a bad day (tired, sick, etc) can be beaten by some disadvantaged version of themselves on a good day.

AgentHEX wrote: I hope for the sake of academia they have higher expectations of arguments than this.

Academia has nothing to do with it.  I didn't make comments about how good people can be playing with clipboards; CNT players against the top women in the world left handed; and your claim to be within 200 points different when playing with right and left hand; and on and on, I have lost track.  You have now amassed a large corpus of table tennis absurdity.  When it is pointed out that there is a significance to your claim that you can play as well with LP or inverted your backhand in less than in hour, you are oblivious.  I don't doubt for a second it is true.  But make no mistake, a lot of players know what that means instantly and roll their eyes when you start abusing people.  The main thing, though, is that you are mean spirited in your trolling.  You turn almost every thread you enter into some sort of personal vendetta against other members, some of whom have a lot of experience as coaches and high level players, and have been interacting here -- cooperatively and in freindship -- for years.  It was kind of funny for awhile, just to see what you would come up with next.  Now, not so much.     

I would strongly suggest that you get back on your meds.  The way things are now is not good for you.

For me, here out, I'm not engaging anymore.


Edited by Baal - 09/03/2013 at 10:41am

AgentHEX wrote: It seems rather more obvious that you and Baal still have a very poor understanding of how ratings work. Consider reading again my replies on the efficacy of strats, because there remain this notion here that a rating diff is something other than a statistical average. For example, +200 doesn't mean you'll always lose to every player 200 points less the same 1 out of X times. There are some players (ostensibly yourself but worse) you''ll almost always win, and some you'll lose more than 1 out of X. Only on average is it 1 of X. Stats can be hard to grasp but this really is basic stuff.

AgentHEX wrote: Well at first it didn't even occur to me that someone who claims to have an EE degree (or someone who teaches college students STEM) can fail so miserably at basic jr-high math; it wasn't until I read your second post and Baal's pat on the back again that it registered it wasn't just some language misunderstanding.

tt4me wrote: I think people are very adaptable when necessary.  I think the switch from left to right or right to left can be made pretty quickly if it is necessary and one can't play with the other hand as in my case. @Tassie52, an asymptote doesn't have to approach 0 just some limit or line/ boundary.  Look up asymptote on wikipedia.  You will see many examples where a function asymptotically approaches a line that isn't 0. Oh well, argue on guys.

I think in this case, the body recalibrates itself in a way it wouldn't if the choice to use the dominant arm was still available.

Just another thing I recalled about "pro" athletes. F1 before clutchless transmission used left foot for it. When the transition happened everyone just (re)learned left foot braking (even where testing is always somewhat limited). I'm pretty sure when juniors back then still karted with left foot braking for trans-less, so some had to make this transition twice. There were exceptions, though, for at least one top level driver who kept w/ right foot, but this hardly seemed an issue even at highest level of the sport where stopping the car at the threshold is pretty damn important.

Also done both styles and switching isn't fundamentally harder than mouse or TT bat, and I hardly consider myself any physical talent.


Edited by AgentHEX - 09/03/2013 at 9:44pm

tt4me wrote: @Tassie52, an asymptote doesn't have to approach 0 just some limit or line/ boundary.  Look up asymptote on wikipedia.  You will see many examples where a function asymptotically approaches a line that isn't 0. Oh well, argue on guys.

No, his def was correct: "A line whose distance to a given curve tends to zero." This means given line X and curve Y, the distance between them (X-Y) decreases towards limit.

lol, had this open and didn't click post earlier.

I practiced twice with my left had those couple days for fun, here are some good stuff:

- Im right handed SH player, I never played PH with my right hand! supersiengly, playing SH with my left hand was TOO ackward for me to even play 5 minutes, so I switched to PH and it was at least 4 times better than my left SH!

- Lefthand /FH/ PH was pretty good exercise that I played about an hour. and I would do it again for sure. Backhand was not that good, I wasn't playing RPB though.

- as some mentioned, footwork was messed up especially at first.

- Serve was TERRIBLE :D

- My coach and another coach tried to play a match using left hand, that was the best TT standup comedy, too slow, lots lots of error, newbie top spin serve .. It's amazing to watch those really pro guys playing lefthand ..

That what I noticed .. I enjoyed the practice, and getting sweat as TT for my is more of a way for fun and keeping fit ..

Personally, I don't think my left hand ability could match my right ability even after a lot of training, but could get close to it .. that's just my personal opinion not "scientifically" proven :)