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longreachlooper
Member Joined: 03/23/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 95 |
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Posted: 07/02/2007 at 7:53pm |
Anyone here use a hardbat in play-matches? What kind of rubber you use? thanks |
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thethinker
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Not sure exactly what you mean but I was looking around for used rubbers with sponge above 45 degree to try. That's a hard setup.
Rubbers with sponge that's soft is easy to control. You can easily make your shots as well as defending. But the shots are softer, with less power, and can easily return by your opponent as well. The best you can do is just to play an all around game. With hard sponge the loops (and drives, etc) are heavier and more powerful, making it hard for your opponent to control. Thus your offense gets better by the change of equipment. Of course, you may have to generate more power yourself. For example, Timo Boll use Sriver with a hard sponge. His attack game is much better than his defense because of it. But he is not so all around anymore, not like the Waldner style anyway. I hope I'm being clear..... |
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JRSDallas
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I think he means hard bat - pips out OX on a blade the way paddles
used to be made before the advent of sponge. |
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agni
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long pips on both side . actually playing with the opponent spin completely . When you serve , you cannot escape from any side . Better to play flat . But this players are generally good in playing flat . Well If you get the idea , then it is very easy to control the game .
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applegreen allplay senso v1
FH yasaka mark v 2.0 BH Sriver FX 2.0 |
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pwrlooper18
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hardbat is very good for whacking the ball at really high speeds
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Blade: Stiga Clipper Wood(84g)
Forehand Rubber: Hurricane 3- provincial verson Backhand Rubber: Hurricane 3 It is better to play your opponent's weaknesses than to play your strengths... |
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IceDefence
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I use BTY Feint Long II OX and Stiga Radical SP OX
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DHS PG2-L
FH: Butterfly Tackiness Chop II Red 1.9 BH: Joola Poker Black 1.2 |
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kenneyy88
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u can use long pips in hardbat?
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IceDefence
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Yup
It is no problem
It is only in the Olympics and that type of competitions where you may not use OX rubber. That's rubbish by my opinion.
IceDefence
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DHS PG2-L
FH: Butterfly Tackiness Chop II Red 1.9 BH: Joola Poker Black 1.2 |
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jt99sf
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you can only use short pips with no sponge in hardbat.
JL
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thethinker
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Thanks for the editing.
OK. When he first talked about hardrubber I wasn't sure what he was refering to. So this is what you mean: http://tt.mainstreet.net/hardbat/ |
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thenam
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My friend is using Friendship Dr.Evil (no sponge) for front and back. and he is almost 1800 usatt rating.
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Darker Speed90 10mm (Jpen) Butterfly Kreanga Carbon (ST)
FH - Yasaka V-Stage (max) FH - Butterfly Bryce Speed (2.1) BH - Yasaka V-Stage (2.0) BH - Tibhar Nimbus (max) |
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jt99sf
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that's what I used in the Nat'ls last year. I got 2nd place in the U-2000 Hardbat Event with my 3 ply Hock and Dr Evil on both sides.
JL
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Francis
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Hey, do you know me ?
I'm also using 2 Dr Evil (on a 729 Bomb blade), even in "sponge" events, and my french rating is 1361, in US rating level, that's around... 1800-1900.
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Hardbat is the future of table tennis!
http://www.hardbat-france.fr/ FH : Valor Premier Ox BH : Valor Premier Ox Blade : BTY |
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