How ESN makes sponge

Found this video of how the Andro Rasant sponge is made from raw materials.

































Edited by sweetstrike - 07/20/2013 at 3:29am

Wow so technical and such specialized and expensive equipment....

I will guarantee DHS's factory is 50 years behind the ESN factory. Lucky for them high technology doesn't always make the most playable rubber. Rasant is three times faster and twice as spinny, that doesn't make it better for everyone (only the majority)

Bluebucket,

I don't have too much info on manufactoring,
So base on your info provide, the DHS users are using 50 year old technology and in a way - such an inferior product (3 times less speed and 2 times less spin)

So if that is true, a lot of people must be happy that DHS users don't use ESN rubber or rather the Andro Rasant rubber (in place of DHS).
Just imagine if they did.....

So is this the same reason why the ESN players actually are in the world ranking, it must be superior technology - giving them more speed and spin?

Just imagine if they all use such great and up to date technology. The DHS users must make the ESN users look amateur hey? Since they can do so well with 1960 technology - just check the World Top 10.

So really.....are you really serious and can guarantee the 50 years part?

Zapenholder, players in the top of the world ranking has nothing to do with rubber or blades. Its about 20 years of 7 days a week training.

I use dhs rubber and I'll be the first to admit its vastly inferior in every way as a rubber product. Luckily that has almost nothing to do with how well you can play table tennis with it. Even Yinhe with their 100 year old technology produce much faster and spinner rubbers than DHS, again that doesn't mean you can play better with them. DHS, 729 and globe have captured the x factor of a technically rubbish dead rubber that you can play well with

Its how bad they are which makes them good.

That all said, the majority 95% play better with tensors

Edited by bluebucket - 07/20/2013 at 2:17am

If CNT players could use their BH in the same way they use their FH - with vigour and enormous strength - they would probably use H2 on their BH.

I am wondering, why some of CNT used non-DHS rubber like Tibhar grip-s before, but they changing to use the DHS rubber..it is because of the contract or the suitability of their playing style?..

smackman wrote: sweetstrike wrote: DHS makes good balls but their rubber technology is far behind ESN and butterfly. I believe the real reason Chinese pros play DHS on their FH is due to endorsement contracts with the national team. If they could switch to T05 on FH they would. Isnt it a little odd that only DHS is used on FH of all those players? If it wasn't good they (the Chinese) wouldn't use DHS

And how many of them actually use the DHS rubber un boosted or tuned, My bet is 0%,

When it comes to pure performance ie spin versus speed, nothing beats ESN rubbers. They are generally out of the packet consitent, and have fantastic feel, and further more they make that many varieties to suits all differant styles from the begineer to the experienced. Forget the Pro's they all tune....

if you wish to create your own rubber using your own properties.. get the newest Solid Works with the addons which should come as standard. with a price tag of about 300-500 euro

hmmm.

The spin of the ball and the angle of the bat at the moment of contact.

bluebucket wrote: Zapenholder, players in the top of the world ranking has nothing to do with rubber or blades. Its about 20 years of 7 days a week training.

Base on your Theory, if more DHS users move over to Tensor/ESN etc, then all ranking will be the players that train 20 years and 7 days a week - AKA Chinese.

Since the Chinese are choosing 1960 equipment, they are giving the rest of the world a big chance hey?

Chinese 20 years, 7 days a week, rubber with 3 times less speed and 2 times less spin VS non Chinese with less years and less days but latest technology rubbers

smackman wrote: sweetstrike wrote: DHS makes good balls but their rubber technology is far behind ESN and butterfly. I believe the real reason Chinese pros play DHS on their FH is due to endorsement contracts with the national team. If they could switch to T05 on FH they would. Isnt it a little odd that only DHS is used on FH of all those players? If it wasn't good they (the Chinese) wouldn't use DHS

Thats what I gather.

But because it is the Chinese, so all sorts of guesses and assumptions comes out to the equation.
Maybe should just give credit to good products use by great players.

Its so difficult being the Chinese and being treated equal in the table tennis world - same when they loose, some call it match fixing....

Okay, nice discussion.

...on the other hand the Euro players who don't play DHS, consistently choose T-05 over the more powerful rubbers (more spin, more speed) available these days. So, I claim that the "real life" control at high speeds is a factor, and that's probably why the DHS is liked there. Or maybe not...

Edited by JacekGM - 07/20/2013 at 6:03pm