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Poll Question: How heavy is your favorite set up?
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4 [4.88%]
11 [13.41%]
29 [35.37%]
20 [24.39%]
6 [7.32%]
5 [6.10%]
7 [8.54%]
0 [0.00%]
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    Posted: 12/05/2008 at 10:55pm
I'm such a weighing freak when it comes to combining rubber and blades.  They feel great for a while when you get a new setup but after extended play I start to feel a bit sore in the wrist or elbow. 
 
Or I just find reaction times become a bit too slow, or find it's too light to sting. 
 
So here it is, please let me know what you think your ideal weight is and why...Smile
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141g here (long pip on one side).  more important than the weight, to me, is the balance.  i used a wrb blade for a while, total weight 147g.  even with pips on one side, the balance was very poor and thing felt cumbersome to swing.  my new setup is very well balanced and the difference in my game is huge.  i think i could probably play with something up to 160g or so, provided blade is evenly balanced.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jeff(ATTC) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/06/2008 at 1:12am
Hmm I'm going to guess ~190g for my set up.  88g blade with Max Mark V and 2.2 H2 blue sponge.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote goldfish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/06/2008 at 1:41am
I am a penholder. If I played a long time with a >175g setup, my arm,wrist and even my fingers would get hurt. A setup weighing less than 170 g would be okay. I shakehanded sometimes and its okay for me to tolerate 180 g setups.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ciprian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/06/2008 at 4:08am
I've played with Andro .J.M.Saive OFF + and Globe National on both sides and was a realy heavy blade.Blade weight is arround 80 g. ,I don't know the rubbers weight but I think are 100g or more.Overall the blade is arround 190g.
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most of my Cpen blades are 183-189g range..... above 190g is too heavy for me.....
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My single-sided penhold is 135. My penhold rpb setup is 150-155. My shakehand is <170. Above 170 is too heavy for me.
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mine is 182g. pretty okay for me i think.
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this topic should be moved to Equipment so more people could vote!!!! 
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From 205 gr to 165 gr Approve

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Even though I have no idea what weight my setup is I thogught i'd comment anyway. In an ideal world would the heaviest setup you could tolerate be the best setup for you? Considering the extra power and spin you would get from the weight.

I've recently moved over to something much heavier after using very light tensor rubbers. My wrist was sore after the first few sessions but i'm glad i've stuck with it cause i'm getting much more power and spin.

Like filling your boots with cement, a heavy setup can only be a good thing!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rich215 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/06/2008 at 10:24am
I use shakehand....168-176 feels good to me.  But balance is a must. I dont like head heavy setups. 
 
How do i vote...lol   I cant vote twice for my range of 165-175.  LOL 
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Originally posted by Rich215 Rich215 wrote:

I use shakehand....168-176 feels good to me.  But balance is a must. I dont like head heavy setups. 
 
How do i vote...lol   I cant vote twice for my range of 165-175.  LOL 
 
Balance for me is most important also as I do not like head heavy either.  Normal range for me is 168-182 depending on starting weight of the blade........... did not vote.
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Maybe allow more increments of weight ranges...like multiples of 5 instead of 10.  But even so, Id be in 2 ranges because I can not decide my fav setup.  One is 168, other is 174.  I was not sure how to vote either.  If the choice was between 165-175.....that would be my vote. 
 
OK,......I shall stop being over analytical here.   Just hit the freaking ball dude!   Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote notfound123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/06/2008 at 11:54am
my setup is 179...and I will soon be getting IQ UL to bring the weight down a bit.
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I voted 150-160 because I play Cpen , and often take off the backhand rubber, my setups say I have pips on the backhand, but I have already taken off the 755, and the Pk OX is very light.
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my old setup acoustic fh hammond x 2.2 bh hammond x 2.0 is 178 grams (very heavy)

my new setup( signature) is 172 grams.
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I have a few setups ranging in weight from 174 g to 188 g, but ideal one for me would probably be between 178 and 184.
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Sorry, just a quick thought - I always believed that a few extra grams are not as important as a good balance of your racket. If you are simply putting heavier rubbers on the same blade then you are getting a few more grams but more importantly that shifts your balance into the head.

Then you go and think that those 4-5 extra grams messed you up, but it was not them, it was the changed balance.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bozbrisvegas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/12/2008 at 6:09pm
I'd like to alter the poll options, but it's too late. 
 
I think I'm happy with the results I've gotten here thanks to all the posters.  As I thought most people would find 170 - 190g to feel right.
 
If I only played just to hit the ball around I'd use about 200g.  For me the best part of the game is the long range counter looping.  It feels so steady in the hand as well, so much momentum.
 
But in the reality of the game I find the 170 -180g range more sensible for at the table, where most seems to be lost and won.  The need to do quick direction changes, especially in serves, where a follow up dummy and recovery for the third ball attack seems essential to my game.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bozbrisvegas Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12/19/2008 at 7:19pm
I love my current set up, except one thing the balance is wrong.
 
The best feeling for my blade was when I put
 
f3 bigslam max on one side of my Ishlion with tenergy.  It was perfectly balanced and could just rip into anything above, near or back from the table with the tenergy super quickly.  My serves were super too, as the lightness helps tiny movements.
 
BUT
 
f3 bigslam sucks.
 
I hope tenergy 64 is lighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
does anyone use those grip thingys like wrap around the handle?  maybe that could balance it
 
I see Samsanov wraps something around the handle in the centre... what does it do?
 
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Balance is more important than overall weight, particularly when playing at or over the table; less so for long distance looping.

Most of the best set ups I've tried this year have been 176-191 grams.

One has been a 79 gram Donic Dima Sawtec with heavy 2mm 729 blue label rubbers, whereas another enjoyable set up was a 100 gram Mazunov with 2.1mm Bryce forehand and 2.1mm Sriver G2Fx backhand. The Sawtec set up was head heavy. whereas the Mazunov set up was a much better balance and a lot faster.
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over the table I think light is best regardless of balance
 
you have to get in and get out or get in and get out again....
 
a big heavy old bat balance as all hell aint gonna save you there unless you block, drive or punch a winner
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I just put MX-P both sides on my blade and now it is 189 grams. Is this too heavy? Previously i had 176grams and the heaviest I have used is 181.
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I'm really happy with my set up right now even though admittedly I'm curious as to a few more grams will give my shots a little more power. I'm happy with it because I play comfortably with it, allows me to swing fast, have good reaction time, and doesn't tire my wrist as opposed to heavy set ups since I use my wrists a lot.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote smackman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/22/2013 at 1:54pm
gee , this is a old thread but interesting for three things,
1. the people posting have 90% gone (well Jim was there)
2. 72% of people havn't chosen the 180-190 range that some current so called experts say is the ideal weight range
3. many people did the pole ,  over 40 amazing lol
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I have an old 101 grams black tag Schlager for fun; with modern porous sponge rubbers on both sides it could reach an easy 211gr total. My actual setup re+rhyzm+nimbus all max is under 185 grams, my ideal weight.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whang Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/23/2013 at 10:31am
Originally posted by smackman smackman wrote:

gee , this is a old thread but interesting for three things,
1. the people posting have 90% gone (well Jim was there)
2. 72% of people havn't chosen the 180-190 range that some current so called experts say is the ideal weight range
3. many people did the pole ,  over 40 amazing lol


Oh my..didn't even notice the date. Lol
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Krantz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/23/2013 at 1:55pm

The lighter is the better in my book - though we are always constrained by other plying characteristics of the blade as well (which may be impossible to achieve currently without compromising overall weight). TBS (or whatever is on top these days) would be even better seller imo if it was weighing 60 grams.. 

I don't believe that you need heavier blade for more power since I realized that traditional penholders use very light setups (with one rubber only) and certainly you cannot say that they lack power. Some adaptation period needed for drastic change of weight of your racket is another thing. 

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