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Mysterious Popularity: MX-P, G-1, Rakza7, Vega Pro |
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Dream1700
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The 10 Best Selling Table Tennis Rubbers of 2018 at Tabletennis11.com!
10. Nittaku Hurricane Pro 3 Turbo Orange 9. DHS Hurricane 3 Neo 8. Tibhar Evolution MX-S 7. Tibhar Grass D.TecS 6. Xiom Vega Europe 5. Xiom Vega Pro 4. Yasaka Rakza 7 Soft 3. Yasaka Rakza 7 2. Nittaku Fastarc G-1 1. Tibhar Evolution MX-P Some of these rubbers have been around for almost 10 years (e.g. Vega Pro was introduced at the end of 2009). The list does no cover Butterfly because TT11 does not sell their rubbers to most countries.
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TT newbie
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I can understand Hurricane 3 Neo popularity, it´s cheap and with 2 layers of booster becomes a lethal weapon (in proper hands, of course).
As for G-1, Rakza 7 and Vega Euro and Pro, I say they are simply better and more reliable than new tensors like Rasanter and Omega VII. Haven´t tried the others.
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anubhav1984
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I absolutely loved MX-P at the time that I was playing with it but I do believe that some of the newer (or relatively newer) generation of tensors are a little bit better overall (for example Rasanter R47). It is possible that MX-P and some of these other series of rubbers might be selling more on TT11 because of their buy 3 get 4 deal because at the deal price, MX-P becomes a great buy option for sure.
Having played with Rakza 7 for some time now, I am not sure why it is so popular. I just hate the feeling of that rubber and I have tried it on almost all the possible blade compositions and it still just doesn't feel as good as some of the other tensors. |
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Butterfly Viscaria FL
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NextLevel
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G1 brought back the joy of table tennis for me. It is the most popular rubber in Japan for good reason. I don't feel the need to buy or test something else and the quality of the rubber is rewarding my game.
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vanjr
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I suspect some of the buy 4 for the price of 3 may help sales of some of these.
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FruitLoop
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Buy 4 for price of 3 definitely effects sales as top 6 are all in that deal. Interesting the rise of G1. Been out for 8 years yet gone from not popular at all to aiming for top soot in last few years. It's been number 1 seller in Japan for a while but was way behind Vega Pro in EU until recently.
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SmackDAT
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Just bought 4 G1s for my ZJK ALC. How do you find it?
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It might be too slow for you. It is like a slower MX-P which means it does some things really well, and has great spin but without being too fast. But if you play close to the table, you will absolutely love it and I like it away from the table because I like to control the ball not hit it hard per se. |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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NextLevel
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It wasn't sold outside Japan until recently. And it wasn't discounted either back then.
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FruitLoop
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That would explain things! What were Nittaku thinking though?!
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NextLevel
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It is a good question. Possibly something along the lines of Butterfly like protection since it is an ESN rubber for a Japanese company. Let's just be happy it is available now as things can always change.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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zeio
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The G-1 has always been available around the world since release. The comments on tt11 date back to 2013. G-1 didn't catch on highly likely because it was late to the porous-sponge party, even later than Rakza 7(Mar, 2010) and Vega Pro(Dec, 2009). The time it shot up in popularity happened to coincide with Ito winning the German Open in 2015.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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SmackDAT
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Hmm, I played good with MX-P and the Fang Bo 2, with the ZJK ALC I hope the G1 will be good. A 2 month old MXP feels great on the ZJK ALC but idk, the feel of MXP leaves something to be desired! And the porous sponge makes gluing a nightmare
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Yes you could find it with Nittaku retailers as far back as 2011. It is the other general ESN retailers that didnt have it then who have it now. I hesitate to comment extensively because these things can change.
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Dream1700
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I've heard that $105 is the magic price.
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pingpungpeng
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seems like their customer base is in america and the choices are based on the advice given in mytt and ttdaily forums
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DreiZ
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just switched to mxp, can’t beat the 4 rubbers for price of 3 on tt11.
Rozena is still by far my favorite from butterfly for anyone under 2k usatt.
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Ovtcharov Innerforce ALC 85g FH/BH: Glayzer 09C 2.1mm Chopper: Stratus Power Defense 85g FH: Hybrid K3 max BH: Grass D.TecS 0.9mm USATT: 1725 |
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Mickael
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the good thing about G1 is that it lasts longer than any of the top 5, and does not take humidity much and it happens that is far better for the plastic ball than any tenergy, it has a very high throw full of spin but slower than mxp tenergy wich is so good that it can be played with any blade from all 5 wood to carbon blasters which is not the case of tenergy mxp or rasznter. it suits woman and man styles. so many more people would buy it of course. it is like h3 (china) in tensor tenergy market.and lighter too.
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Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL
Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
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Very accurate description. Some may quibble with the Tenergy statement but not I.
Edited by NextLevel - 02/26/2019 at 4:44pm |
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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vik2000
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If one finds G1 + ZJK ALC slow, then there's some serious issue with that person's technique.
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NextLevel
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Vik2000, do you have video of your play to share? It helps me put your statement in context.
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Fulanodetal
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Mystery solved....
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Mickael
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all andro tibhar xiom ... are on offer mistery not solved. only the best made it to the top.
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Butterfly Fransizka ZLC FL
Butterfly Dignics 05 2.1 FH Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 BH |
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zeio
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Edited by zeio - 02/27/2019 at 3:59am |
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare) + Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃) = 184.8g |
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Yep.
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Fulanodetal
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"all andro tibhar xiom ... are on offer mistery not solved. only the best made it to the top."
'Best' according to whom?.....you? Mystery solved. PERIOD. End of conversation. FdT
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DonnOlsen
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Hi,
The argument concerning the sales popularity of the top selling rubbers at a certain company being dominated by the 4-for-the-price-of-3 discount is an interesting one. It is alleged by some that this is the primary reason for the specific sales results, implying that the top selling list would be substantially different had there been no discount feature influencing the buyers. A valuable contribution to this argument and this discussion would be lists by those advocates of this position of what, in their view, would be the top selling list absent the currently available discount. Thanks,
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Dream1700
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46 rubbers promoted, yet, only the old-timers listed above are the most popular in 2018. I don't see how the promotion solves the mystery.
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Fulanodetal
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The data comes from the same website.
Exactly what is so hard to understand? FdT
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Dream1700
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I know that. I copied it from their blog. LOL. My question was meant to be: "Why do several older rubbers win in popularity despite new designs continuously offered?" Maybe I should have worded it like that. You may be answering a different question. Not sure what that question is.
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