TH� EQUIPMENT TOPIC!

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A lot of topics are simply about: have you played with this blade? how is its controle? how fast is that blade? what's the exact wieght of that frame? ect ect. sooo here's this topic where you can post ALL your experiences with blades!
please do it like this:

Name: brand + name
style: DEF / OFF+
speed: how fast is it?
controle: good/ bad controle?
feeling: how's ballcontact (any vibrations?) is it soft or hard.
Conclusion: what's your final thought about the frame

thanks!
Roy

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royv Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 05/07/2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote royv Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: TH� EQUIPMENT TOPIC! Posted: 11/11/2005 at 3:33pm
	A lot of topics are simply about: have you played with this blade? how is its controle? how fast is that blade? what's the exact wieght of that frame? ect ect. sooo here's this topic where you can post ALL your experiences with blades! please do it like this: Name: brand + name style: DEF / OFF+ speed: how fast is it? controle: good/ bad controle? feeling: how's ballcontact (any vibrations?) is it soft or hard. Conclusion: what's your final thought about the frame thanks! Roy
	Frame: Threeball Balsa Carbon (strait handle) FH: Andro Revolution C.O.R 2.0 (red) BH: Donic Quattro 1.8 (black)

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Sabito Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/23/2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1313	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sabito Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/11/2005 at 10:55pm
	good idea but all my coments have been shared here before

joey5867 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 02/28/2005 Location: Puerto Rico Status: Offline Points: 882	Post Options Post Reply Quote joey5867 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/11/2005 at 11:16pm
	I will never end.
	BLD: NITTAKU Sanalion S FH: DONIC Sonex JP 2.0 BH: DONIC Sonex JP 2.0

royv Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 05/07/2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote royv Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 4:30am
	common? nobody has a blade to review or what?!
	Frame: Threeball Balsa Carbon (strait handle) FH: Andro Revolution C.O.R 2.0 (red) BH: Donic Quattro 1.8 (black)

silvalis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 09/10/2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1006	Post Options Post Reply Quote silvalis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 5:06am
	Ok then. Name: DHS H-WL style: OFF/+ speed: marked Off+3. Not Off+3 in my opinion. Maybe Off. control: good control, good touch, good speed, not so good sweet spot. Touch can be absolutely crap near the edge (but not at the edge) with soft rubbers. feeling: uh, hardish I guess. Not much vibration. Other: Love the handle, possibly the most comfortable I've used. My blade was 89g Conclusion: Nice blade. Not so nice sweet spot. The best part is the handle
	Potato Face

tatto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Beginner Joined: 11/10/2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 57	Post Options Post Reply Quote tatto Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 5:10am
	the best blade is muzanov and the best rubber is fx and i heared about boll spirit off and m.maze carbon
	i love table tennis

Mushin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 05/15/2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 275	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mushin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 5:25am
	^^^ that comment... was really random.
	Blade: Yasaka Gatien Extra 3D (penhold) FH: Yasaka New Era 2.2 BH: LKT XT Pro 2.2

royv Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 05/07/2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote royv Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 5:33am
	tatto is a spammer, I've seen him all over this forum...spamming... Name: Butterfly Schlager Precision Style: OFF- speed: it's as fast as a OFF- blade should be! so not slow but also not as fast as (for example) the M. Maze frame. controle: lots of controle. feeling: hard, not a lot of vibrations, handle is okay I gues.. Conclusion: Nice frame but I'm sure there are better OFF- frames... (PS. haven't played with this blade myself, but a friend DID)
	Frame: Threeball Balsa Carbon (strait handle) FH: Andro Revolution C.O.R 2.0 (red) BH: Donic Quattro 1.8 (black)

chops Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 09/15/2005 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 893	Post Options Post Reply Quote chops Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 6:14am
	Name: Andro super core DEF Style: DEF+/ALL+ Speed: It is a slow blade, but perfect with spinny/fast glued rubbers. Controle: Nice control, because the slow blade. Feeling: Soft, not so much vibrations, maybe because the super core system, handle is straigt and feels good. Conclusion: Nice ALL+ blade, good with spinny/fast rubbers(Easy to controle).

dwie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Beginner Joined: 12/06/2004 Status: Offline Points: 66	Post Options Post Reply Quote dwie Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 6:56am
	Name: Butterfly Timo Boll Spark style: OFF- speed: Medium, fast enough for touchy loops with control. controle: Very nice control. Get every ball on the table with ease. feeling: Nice soft feeling. Excellent for loops. Compact had, and a rather slim handle. Barely vibrations because of the Arylate fibers. Conclusion: In my opinion the best looping blade I've ever tried.

gekogark1212 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/06/2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 1121	Post Options Post Reply Quote gekogark1212 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 8:41am
	Name: Joola Kool! style: OFF+ speed: very fast, comparable to the schalger carbon controle: great control of a blade this fast, with hard rubbers there is higher control, but softer rubbers perhaps a little more practice. feeling: okay feel, i'd say medium, great for almost every shot, the RAG handle is shakehanders absolute DREAM!!! never felt a better handle IN MY LIFE (IMO) Other: Love the "kick" it has, very bouncy feel, yet paired with chinese rubbers plays an excellent short game. VERY LIGHT (80g). However it is quite thick (almost 1cm!) Conclusion: Excellent blade, with such high control for a OFF+ blade, it is obvious why so many like this blade, has unique feeling of the RAG handle, and light. Gark
	(\__/) (='.'=) But there's no sense crying over every mistake, (")_(") You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

Sabito Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 05/23/2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1313	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sabito Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 8:48am
	Name: Stiga OC CR style: Off speed: Fast with a hard swing and glued rubbers control: very good feeling: Its medium hard. Conclusion: is a excelent blade due to the necesity of speed I just reccomend CR version, this blade for people wanting to make topspins with a long swing like wang liqin(in fact is used by him), special production for the chinese team make the blade very balanced.

P�r$son Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 10/07/2005 Status: Offline Points: 344	Post Options Post Reply Quote P�r$son Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/12/2005 at 10:41am
	Name: Andro Super Core OFF+ style: OFF+, but its a slow OFF+ blade. speed: slower OFF+ blade, but for its rating its very fast. controle: very good control feeling: hard feeling I would say, little vibrations Conclusion: great blade with medium fast rubbers as Sriver or Mark V very fast, a bit of speedglue will give it the last "touch"

theguyfromaus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Beginner Joined: 09/21/2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 60	Post Options Post Reply Quote theguyfromaus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/13/2005 at 3:27am
	Name: Butterfly VSG 4000 style: OFF- speed: Moderate. Not too fast, but then not too slow. controle: Best control, both with tacky and not so tacky rubbers. feeling: Good Feeling with no vibrations. Good for close to table attack. Conclusion: Excellent blade which feelds great, and with my rubbers are a killer combo. Havn't tried speed glue with the rubbers and blade because i don't need the extra speed. Blade more for the person with control in mind over speed.
	Blade: Butterfly VSG 4000 FH: Stiga Magna MAX BH: Stiga Almana Sound Max

Schlager Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Platinum Member Joined: 05/16/2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 2086	Post Options Post Reply Quote Schlager Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/13/2005 at 4:47am
	Name: Joola Guo 3 C carbon style: OFF++ speed: very very fast, controle: The blade is very hard and stiff, but still very light... This gives a strange feeling, and it needs a lot of practice feeling: Good handle, quite short and fits the hand perfectly... The head of the blade is a little too heavy with rubbers compared to the handle, a little bad balance. Other: It's a dream looping with this blade on the right balls, when getting a tricky ball, its awful... Conclusion: Very light fast and hard/stiff blade.. PLays good near to the table, plays crappy on mid-distance.. A very cheap and good carbon blade for close-to-the-table-attackers... (works best with chinese rubbers)
	Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0

D4VOW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 10/30/2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote D4VOW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/13/2005 at 6:14am
	Name: Butterfly Schlager (the original one) style: OFF but more like OFF- speed: Moderately quick controle: Excellent control feeling: Soft Conclusion: This blade is excellent for somebody wanting to improve there loops. I've had a long lay-off and went back to this blade that I used to use years ago to get my game back together. I'm about to change to the Timo Boll Spirit now I'm comfortable with my game. However this blade is no longer available.
	Blade:Stiga Offensive Classic (FL-Master) FH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0) BH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0)

royv Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 05/07/2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote royv Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/13/2005 at 7:08am
	do you mean this butterfly blade: (?) If so I can still get in through posno-sport here!
	Frame: Threeball Balsa Carbon (strait handle) FH: Andro Revolution C.O.R 2.0 (red) BH: Donic Quattro 1.8 (black)

D4VOW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 10/30/2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote D4VOW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/13/2005 at 7:33am
	That's the one. It's no longer in production but will still be available at some stores until their stocks run out.
	Blade:Stiga Offensive Classic (FL-Master) FH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0) BH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0)

royv Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 05/07/2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 324	Post Options Post Reply Quote royv Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/13/2005 at 8:45am
	hmmm I'm interested in that frame. you say it's more like OFF- but how fast is it if you glue? also how heavy is it?
	Frame: Threeball Balsa Carbon (strait handle) FH: Andro Revolution C.O.R 2.0 (red) BH: Donic Quattro 1.8 (black)

D4VOW Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 10/30/2005 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 188	Post Options Post Reply Quote D4VOW Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11/13/2005 at 10:07am
	It is fast enough for hitting winners, it is'nt slow but is on the slow side of the offensive blades. It is a light blade, 80g or less. You have to make sure that you seal the blade if you speed glue otherwise you will rip off huge chunks of wood each time you take the rubber off.
	Blade:Stiga Offensive Classic (FL-Master) FH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0) BH:Stiga Boost TC (2.0)

master-pong Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 11/30/2005 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 1458	Post Options Post Reply Quote master-pong Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/20/2005 at 5:30am
	Blade: Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit. style: OFF Speed: it's fast, I've seen blades that are even faster but it still is fast! controle: I think the blade has a good controle but it also depends on the rubbers that are on it. feeling: The ball contact is good, the one I played with had some vibrations though...I don't like that! the strait handle is good (and not as long as most others)but the blade isn't that light (about 86-89 grams.) Conclusion: nice fast blade with a good controle and a nice strait handle! I don't like those vibrations though and it's a bit heavy I gues, also the price is pretty high...

Raymo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 04/03/2004 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 270	Post Options Post Reply Quote Raymo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/20/2005 at 7:04am
	Blade: Stiga Clipper CR Style: OFF+ Speed: Very fast, probably one of the fastest i've used so far. control: Probably also one of the most uncontrolable blades i've used, but then again, maybe i'm just crap or the blade is too hardcore for me and not suited to my style. feeling: great for looping, and close to the table play, but the wood is very soft so there is quite a bit of vibration, which i don't like. And also pretty heavy Conclusion: i was disappointed with it, changed to Timo Boll Spirit and my game is so much better. Ideal for loopers, but for developing players or away from table players, this blade is not recommended. Try something like Energy wood, or get a carbon blade.
	FH: Almana Sound 2.0 BH: Sriver G2 1.9 Blade: Timo Boll Spirit FL

powerplay.de Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 11/16/2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 135	Post Options Post Reply Quote powerplay.de Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/20/2005 at 7:24am
	Name: bty Schlager Carbon style: OFF+ speed: very fast off+ control: average, quite big sweet spot feeling: due to hinoki?/zypress? outer ply the touch is medium hard. No or hardly vibration. Conclusion: very good off+ carbon blade for agressiv loopers. The weight is between 94 (fl)g and 98g(st). The st handle is not very comfortable. Name: Tibhar Samsonov Carbon style: OFF+ speed: off+ but a bit slower than Schlager Carbon control: is very good for a off+ carbon blade feeling: Its very stiff but has a very soft touch. A bit strange feel for me. Conclusion: Strange blade for me. Soft touch like a all blade. Fast off+ but strange long ballcontact time particularly with soft speed-glued rubbers like gewo target ultraklik. Returning services short behind the net is really easy. Name: BTY Viscaria style: OFF speed: from a rating from 1(slowest)-10(fastest)i would give it a 8 control: good control, medium-soft touch, big sweet spot feeling: its stiff, hardly vibrations, touch is medium soft Conclusion: very good allround offensive blade. Good blade for loopers. ST handle is comfortable. Only disadvantage is the heavy weight (98g). Name: BTY Primorac Carbon style: OFF+ speed: similar to Schlager Carbon control: similar to Schlager Carbon feeling: similar to Schlager Carbon Conclusion: the only difference between them is that Schlager Carbon is a bit thicker. So the balance is more to the head. Primorac Carbon balance is more to the handle. My Primorac Carbons weight is 98g. ST handle sucks. Its the same as Schlager Carbon.

Gaute Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 12/14/2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 689	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gaute Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/20/2005 at 7:30am
	Blade: Donic appelgren senso v2! Style: off-, but it is a "control blade" too! Speed: It is not the fastest i have used, but it is fast enough for me. The speed is about 80. control: Great control. It is not so bad control on it, and it is not so heavy either. The control it about 90. feeling: Since the control is so good, it�s easy to lay short returns, and it is also great to serve and loop with. Conclusion: You have very good control with this blade too, and its weight is about 80 g.
	Blade: Avalox Rubbers:Donic desto F3 Big slam (both sides) I have stopped gluening now, I play as good without. Donic desto F3 Big slam gives klick anyways...

jimmyso Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Member Joined: 12/04/2004 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 79	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimmyso Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/20/2005 at 7:41am
	Blade: Stiga Super Carbon WRB (new) Style: OFF+ Speed: definitly among the fastest blades available control: for this speed its quite controlable feeling: best for topspin, especially countertopsin. Because of putting the carbon layers around the inner ply, the blade isnt so hard in comparison to the old one. The weight is about 87 g, quite light for such a fast blade. Its headheavy and has almost no vibrations. Conclusion: very good blade for agressive players (a the table or away). It supports all varities of agressive offensiv play. In comparison to the bty composite blade its also a good choice, in my opinion a much better.
	Butterfly Viscaria FL DHS Hurricane 3 2.2 black Butterfly Tenergy 1.9 red

Fraziel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 11/27/2005 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 553	Post Options Post Reply Quote Fraziel Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/20/2005 at 9:26am
	blade- butterfly andrzej grubba style all+ ( more like all i think) speed- medium slow feel/control- very soft with superb control.a bit of vibration but all in all a very good blade to learn with or for the all+ style gluing player. blade- butterfly bastian steger style- off- speed - medium feel/control- has a softer medium feel. very good control with a little vibration (which i like for feel) but not too much. excellent controlled offense blade. great for advanced beginners and controlled offense players. only had it a couple of weeks and i really like it. blade- andro jm saive kinetic off- style- off- speed- medium + feel/control- medium hard feel. too hard for my taste. bigger than normal sweet spot. very light with best flared handle i have used. very little vibration. quite fast for an off- blade, almost off really.
	Fraziel, blade- tibhar samsonov alpha rubber, FH- palio cj8000 on canon 1.8 mm 40 sponge, BH- same

master-pong Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Gold Member Joined: 11/30/2005 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 1458	Post Options Post Reply Quote master-pong Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/28/2005 at 8:39am
	click pic for more foto's Blade: Threeball Balsa Carbon style: OFF Speed: it's really fast a bit faster then the boll spirit in my opinion... controle: The controle is okay but it is deffinately NOT where this blade was made for! also because of the speed (and if you have fast rubbers) it's sometimes hard to get balls on the table but when you are used to it it's very easy! feeling: No vibrations at all! I really like that! it's a hard blade...so a hard and direct feeling.I have the flared hanlde and it's good I gues but I can't say it is something special or so...The blade rather light. I think about 80 grams. Conclusion: Hard, fast, direct, hanlde is okay, rather light, I like it a lot!!! only problem is you can only get it here and the brand isn't very big so don't expect to find this blade in the US!

Siebje Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Beginner Joined: 11/01/2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 67	Post Options Post Reply Quote Siebje Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12/28/2005 at 9:10am
	Name:Andro J.M. Saive Kinetic Off style:OFF speed:Its fast but not unhandle fast. ControlThe controle of this frame is realy good feeling:It's a haevy blade in combination with max sheets of rubbers. The balans of het blade lays @ the middle of the sweetspot. Also like al Andro blades it's a Hard blade ConclusionHard, fast, with the control that you want from a fast blade furtherIt's a blade with a big surface, the handle is al little bit bigger than other handles of blades.
	Frame:BTY Michael Maze Off FH:BTY Bryce PS, 2.1mm BH:BTY Sriver EL, Max http://www.effect78.nl

Adib Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Super Member Joined: 02/27/2006 Location: Malaysia Status: Offline Points: 311	Post Options Post Reply Quote Adib Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/12/2007 at 12:19pm
	any japan penhold??
	Blade:Nittaku Rorin 9mm,Xiom RSM Gold,TSP YAMATO-K 10.5mm Rubber:Black 38 degree Hurricane 3 Provincial

fatcomet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Member Joined: 04/30/2006 Location: Korea, North Status: Offline Points: 798	Post Options Post Reply Quote fatcomet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03/12/2007 at 2:58pm
	Here's how a pro would do it: Blade: Primorac Off- Style: Very Classik Speed: nice Spin: excellent Feeling: gives great feeling Conclusion: it makes great topspins, serve and cut