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    Posted: 04/21/2012 at 5:05am

Koki beats Ma long 4-2 at the Olympics qualification tournament in Hong Kong today. What an upset. Damn, I should have watched this live today, my wife would'nt let me go. LOL LOL







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 Yes, Koki Niva -  was good !  Powerful  - fh & bh !!

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Originally posted by jonyer1980 jonyer1980 wrote:

Was ML sick or something?

ML was not sick, he was totally outplayed. Would have been 4-0 if Koki did not make some silly mistakes.
Koki is going to be a big threat to the chineses in a few years time.
He might be already a threat right now.
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Koki is a special talent, despite having a height of only 1.6 meter.
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8:11, 11:4, 11:8, 12:10, 5:11 and 11:9 to Koki. Anyone who can take a set from Ma Long 11:4 deserves mucho respect.
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I should have gone to watch this, the ticket only cost US$10
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Hope Ma Long can still qualify...
Thumbs up to Koki, well played
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The scary thing is he is only 17! When he turns 22, 23, watch out.

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Yep, there is a lot of Japanese youngsters looking good, much more and better than the other countries I would say.
But I guess its just take China little time to figure them out, get practice partner copying him and then that is it for Koki and co. So these youngsters still need to improve they game and always ahead of China's TT brain club
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Yep, there is a lot of Japanese youngsters looking good, much more and better than the other countries I would say.
But I guess its just take China little time to figure them out, get practice partner copying him and then that is it for Koki and co. So these youngsters still need to improve they game and always ahead of China's TT brain club

The chinese tried to figure out waldner when he first arrived on the table tennis scene, did not quite work

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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

I should have gone to watch this, the ticket only cost US$10
 
Jackywon23, shame on you!! that is poor mis-managment from your side, how could you???
You should of bribe your wife, bought her chocolates and flowers in advance, or if that doesn't work, get her a diamond something....
Jokes my friend Wink
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Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:



Yep, there is a lot of Japanese youngsters looking good, much more and better than the other countries I would say.
But I guess its just take China little time to figure them out, get practice partner copying him and then that is it for Koki and co. So these youngsters still need to improve they game and always ahead of China's TT brain club

The chinese tried to figure out waldner when he first arrived on the table tennis scene, did not quite work
 
Yep, he defiantly hold off the Chinese the longest, for so many years or "generations".


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Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:


Originally posted by jackwong23 jackwong23 wrote:

I should have gone to watch this, the ticket only cost US$10

 
Jackywon23, shame on you!! that is poor mis-managment from your side, how could you???
You should of bribe your wife, bought her chocolates and flowers in advance, or if that doesn't work, get her a diamond something....
Jokes my friend Wink
I guess, best try get your wife to fall in love with Table Tennis, so in the future, she takes you to these games Tongue


The thing is I did not expect an upset like this would happen, i thought the bloody chinese are winning all the time in table tennis. there is no point watching it. Plus the fact that the wife was reluctant to let me go. It was a miss-management from me for sure.
Would have been nice to watch Koki kicking Ma long's ass live.

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videos or it didn't happen Wink

I'm just curious how "bad" Ma Long must have played, because afaik Timo recently beat Koki 3:0 in a very convincing way. I'm not saying Timo is a bad player but I would consider Ma Long as the better overall player.


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Robb, no it didn't happen, coz I can't find the video....
 
I've found Guo Yue's video. Can't find Ma Long's one
 
I need to go out now, will continue to search later, or hopefully someone else found for us :)
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Great result for Koki Niwa, looking forward to the video. I'm wondering if  ML got nervous or froze a bit, but it sounds like he was outplayed by a great talent
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Well done Koki Niwa! a good weekend for Japan, they're getting some great results in the Spanish Open too.

But I wonder if this spells the end for Ma Long's Olympic Singles hopes...with ZJK and Wang Hao already qualified, will Liu Guoliang risk taking the chance with Ma Long? The Chinese coaches tend to punish players for these kind of losses by declaring them to be flaky or risky, no matter how much Ma Long proves them the other way. Personally I think it would be a travesty if the world's best player was absent from the singles in London.

But respect for Koki Niwa, I hope to see him and the rest of the young Japanese restoring Japan's great history in the game and doing something about China's dominance (which has gone too far for too long, IMHO).
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I think that next time they meet, Ma Long will blank Koki 4-0. 
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First two qualified are Koki (who beat MLong) and Leung (beat RSM)

Here the article from ITTF.

http://www.ittf.com/_front_page/ittf_full_story1.asp?ID=27644&Category=General&Competition_ID=&

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And in the meantime, Ma Long "blanked" Kamal Achanta 4:0, and thus qualified for the Olymipics in 2nd attempt.

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I just wonder if this was some political thing from China to let other good young players qualify for Olympics ? Or, he was on fire and Ma Long wasn't preparred, and we mortals have that happen to us.
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The next two spots from 7 in total will be decided by:

Kamal x Ma Long

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 Ma Long - Achanta Kamal : 4-0.
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LET'S WAIT AND SEE......

Despite having yielded a match to Niwa, MaLong did got no worse.
It is still possible for MaLong to progress to the Olympics even if 2 more failures occur to him... Playing schedule of the event is wonderfully mild and forgiving.
It is clear for me Ma was overly relaaaaaxed at the match, as being not much worried of the match outcome.

Let's wait till the Olympics and see if Niwa can withstand as well under harder pressure, in tense competitive environment.

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