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    Posted: 02/28/2011 at 5:17am
can you recommend rubbers that are good for counterlooping in forehand?
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Check my thread here:  http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39911&title=looping-rubbers

Edited by TheRobot99 - 02/28/2011 at 5:31am
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Have you tried Calibra LT Sound?
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it's my rubber right now
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I like Baracuda in max thickness.  You haven't said what blade your'e using (or contemplating using) nor have you let us know what level you play.  But with an OFF or OFF+ blade, Baracuda should do the trick.  

Max thickness will probably have a bit of a higher trajectory and more spin than with thinner sponge, but I didn't have any problems making the adjustment.
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Originally posted by JKC JKC wrote:

Have you tried Calibra LT Sound?
 
 
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Originally posted by silverhair silverhair wrote:

I like Baracuda in max thickness.  You haven't said what blade your'e using (or contemplating using) nor have you let us know what level you play.  But with an OFF or OFF+ blade, Baracuda should do the trick.  

Max thickness will probably have a bit of a higher trajectory and more spin than with thinner sponge, but I didn't have any problems making the adjustment.
 
Good point... baracuda is good for looping. OFF+ blade preferably.
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For me T05 then Rakza 7 Wink
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How's the Rakza 7 Like Pioneer?  I haven't tried that rubber.. I love yasaka rubbers, way back to the old Mark V soft.  just a bref review thanks!
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Originally posted by EZRO EZRO wrote:

How's the Rakza 7 Like Pioneer?  I haven't tried that rubber.. I love yasaka rubbers, way back to the old Mark V soft.  just a bref review thanks!
it's very fast and halucinative spin. all with very good control Wink
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wow, Halucinative spin, I hope I wont be halucinating after I try it hehehehehhe...
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Originally posted by Pioneer Pioneer wrote:

Originally posted by EZRO EZRO wrote:

How's the Rakza 7 Like Pioneer?  I haven't tried that rubber.. I love yasaka rubbers, way back to the old Mark V soft.  just a bref review thanks!
it's very fast and halucinative spin. all with very good control Wink


maybe it's tuned with LSD? LOL
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Originally posted by pablogilberto pablogilberto wrote:

Originally posted by Pioneer Pioneer wrote:

Originally posted by EZRO EZRO wrote:

How's the Rakza 7 Like Pioneer?  I haven't tried that rubber.. I love yasaka rubbers, way back to the old Mark V soft.  just a bref review thanks!
it's very fast and halucinative spin. all with very good control Wink


maybe it's tuned with LSD? LOL

Or maybe he's still using too much speed glue.  Confused

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WOW... but anyway, what pioneer is discribing with exageration is that he love's the rubber so much for its powerful spin.  Thanks Pioneer.
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Originally posted by EZRO EZRO wrote:

wow, Halucinative spin, I hope I wont be halucinating after I try it hehehehehhe...
I hope so LOL
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Originally posted by pablogilberto pablogilberto wrote:

Originally posted by Pioneer Pioneer wrote:

Originally posted by EZRO EZRO wrote:

How's the Rakza 7 Like Pioneer?  I haven't tried that rubber.. I love yasaka rubbers, way back to the old Mark V soft.  just a bref review thanks!
it's very fast and halucinative spin. all with very good control Wink


maybe it's tuned with LSD? LOL
Watch out ... there might be an FDA agent around here LOL
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hahahaha.......... I will try the RAKZA 7, this will be a something, is it soft like the old Mark V ? whats the surface like and the sponge like.  this is to all who have tried using it.

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Rakza 7's just another ESN Rubber - if I had to choose, i wouldn't buy it.
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why is that gilbert? more info needed here Wink

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I tried both versions of Rakza 7 (regular and soft) and decided to keep them both on my 1ply hinoki Jpen blades. Rakza 7 Soft is now my current favourite because it gives me the  more control than the regular version, especially now, when clubs are colder and rubbers get a bit harder.  

They both are nice for looping and counterlooping.  Ma Lin liked the Soft version too, by the way Smile
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thanks... let me think about that....
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Originally posted by JKC JKC wrote:

Have you tried Calibra LT Sound?
 This is where we part on agreement. I played Dave Robson in the county Champs recently, he plays with Calibra. Talking afterwards, he said the one thing he wanted to keep away from in our match was going loop to loop, no consistency with calibra as far as he was concerned.
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We must get together soon and have another hit. I love looping with this stuff.
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Calibra is nice, not as spiny as Baracuda but the speed and consistency is very good, it can rival the Tenergy's, and it has mid to high arch, which I like. The price is half of Tenergy, and it last longer in terms of durability than the Tenergy.

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Originally posted by JKC JKC wrote:

We must get together soon and have another hit. I love looping with this stuff.
Oh wow, the TT forum 'wiggy vs JKC' tenergy vs calibra debate will surely gather some interest.
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One of my friends, who is a European power looper rated about 2300 (and likes to counterloop a lot), hated the Calibra LT. He literally tore it off after playing a game with it and losing to a 2200 player (at a tournament). I haven't played much with it but it seems like a good rubber imo. Some people just have different taste. 
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Originally posted by pablogilberto pablogilberto wrote:

Rakza 7's just another ESN Rubber - if I had to choose, i wouldn't buy it.


I didn't think so.....what rubbers have you used Gilbert?

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I already check it out its rakza 7 is ESN
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Oh...I mean that I do not think Rakza 7 (regular version) is like other ESN rubbers that I have tried.  Similar only in some aspects....but not entirely with overall feel and playing ability for me.  The Rakza 7 soft was too soft for me.   I have only tried them both in 2.0mm though.  I spent alot of time using Palio Macro Era 42.5 max and 2.0, 47.5 in 2.0mm.   Razka 7 is much different to me.




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your right, Yasaka is living up to there roots, soft rubber, just like the Mark V original.
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