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Mr Mahdi_mak2000

I will agree with you:

1) if it is like the case of Singapore - scouts goes and recruit and provide citizenship instintly to athletics that are willing to betray they home land (not just TT, but for other sports too). And what makes it worse is that these Singapore TT imports are still training more in China than oppose to Singapore.
TT imports means that these players develop they skills in they country of origin and are scouted to represent a different country

2) Players like Chen Jing and I think Gao Jun, who imigrated for the purpose of TT - wanting to continue to play for another country when the orginal country doesn't allow them to continue playing international.

Something on a thin line:
3) Player like Chuang ChihYuan who grew up in Taiwan, spend a few years of his younger childhood training in Taiwan, but later on moved to China to develop further and later on to Germany. Overall he spend more time outside Taiwan then in Taiwan. This is possibly more accepted then point 1.

4) Player like Wang Chen - didn't imigrate to USA to play TT, but later was offered an opputunity to play, thus TT was not her purpose of imigration. This apply to one of my friend that became womens champion of South Africa, but she imigrated to South Africa with her family aged 16, and never played TT until 19 years old (when the university TT team asked her to represent her). She stop playing TT due to her studies and now is a qualifed CA and still doesn't play TT.

Totaly not imports:
5) Players like Ariel or Tin Tin Ho, who was born and bread above being a citizen of a new country. Most importantly TT talent was develop in this new country, where training camps in other countries like China or Germany does not count as "imports"

If you want to take Jeremy Lin as an example, he is American and not Chinese or Taiwanese, he did not learn his basketball skills in China or Taiwan, but is a pure bread American basketball system with a cinderella approach (from zero to hero over night). He did not become famous due to his Asian ethnic background, however marketing and sales improve due to that, but that is a different discussion point.

So are all these Cheating?
Please explain which point does your Sweden Chinese player are you refering to?
If it is like the case of Ariel and point 5, then you really are a jerk.
As who said no Swedish player with Chinese dencendent or any other country for that matter, is allowed to be a true Swedish and become world champion for his or her hard work and his or her  home country.

Your mindset of Ethnic background is history and stop using that to degrade people and they efforts. This is dangerous, just like how British police killed a pure British, Middle Easten decendents  due to his looks. This is called Racist.


Edited by ZApenholder - 07/30/2012 at 4:17am

ZApenholder wrote: Mr Mahdi_mak2000 I will agree with you: 1) if it is like the case of Singapore - scouts goes and recruit and provide citizenship instintly to athletics that are willing to betray they home land (not just TT, but for other sports too). And what makes it worse is that these Singapore TT imports are still training more in China than oppose to Singapore. TT imports means that these players develop they skills in they country of origin and are scouted to represent a different country 2) Players like Chen Jing and I think Gao Jun, who imigrated for the purpose of TT - wanting to continue to play for another country when the orginal country doesn't allow them to continue playing international. Something on a thin line: 3) Player like Chuang ChihYuan who grew up in Taiwan, spend a few years of his younger childhood training in Taiwan, but later on moved to China to develop further and later on to Germany. Overall he spend more time outside Taiwan then in Taiwan. This is possibly more accepted then point 1. 4) Player like Wang Chen - didn't imigrate to USA to play TT, but later was offered an opputunity to play, thus TT was not her purpose of imigration. This apply to one of my friend that became womens champion of South Africa, but she imigrated to South Africa with her family aged 16, and never played TT until 19 years old (when the university TT team asked her to represent her). She stop playing TT due to her studies and now is a qualifed CA and still doesn't play TT. Totaly not imports: 5) Players like Ariel or Tin Tin Ho, who was born and bread above being a citizen of a new country. Most importantly TT talent was develop in this new country, where training camps in other countries like China or Germany does not count as "imports" If you want to take Jeremy Lin as an example, he is American and not Chinese or Taiwanese, he did not learn his basketball skills in China or Taiwan, but is a pure bread American basketball system with a cinderella approach (from zero to hero over night). He did not become famous due to his Asian ethnic background, however marketing and sales improve due to that, but that is a different discussion point. So are all these Cheating? Please explain which point does your Sweden Chinese player are you refering to? If it is like the case of Ariel and point 5, then you really are a jerk. As who said no Swedish player with Chinese dencendent or any other country for that matter, is allowed to be a true Swedish and become world champion for his or her hard work and his or her  home country. Your mindset of Ethnic background is history and stop using that to degrade people and they efforts. This is dangerous, just like how British police killed a pure British, Middle Easten decendents  due to his looks. This is called Racist.

great piece of information , tnx

maybe you right about US or Canada ,australia and those countries who are open to immigrants. ( I mean multi racial countries ). so you cant blame them if you see asian in their squads.
another thing is i thought Hsing was born in china, since she was born in US and she got to know about TT using the opportunity that US bring to her, so she is true representative for US team.
but....the thing is i just feel weird when I see alot of adopted Chinese spoil the face nature of the international events..

ZApenholder wrote:   Your mindset of Ethnic background is history and stop using that to degrade people and they efforts. This is dangerous, just like how British police killed a pure British, Middle Easten decendents  due to his looks. This is called Racist.

ZApenholder wrote: 2) Players like Chen Jing and I think Gao Jun, who imigrated for the purpose of TT - wanting to continue to play for another country when the orginal country doesn't allow them to continue playing international. Something on a thin line: 3) Player like Chuang ChihYuan who grew up in Taiwan, spend a few years of his younger childhood training in Taiwan, but later on moved to China to develop further and later on to Germany. Overall he spend more time outside Taiwan then in Taiwan. This is possibly more accepted then point 1.

--I know Gao Jun better than anyone on this forum, probably by a long shot, since she was our head coach for two years at our club.  She did not come to the U.S. to continue her table tennis career... That is absolutely false.  She told me she would have been in extremely high demand in China had she intended to continue playing regionally or coaching table tennis schools -even today.  She gave up her fame (and possibly fortune) in China at the height of her career to come here to start a new life, and fully intended to give up table tennis.  Similar to Wang Chen, once here she was convinced by many top U.S. coaches (including Cheng Yinghua and Jack Huang), players and fans to coach and to continue to play. 

--Chuang ChihYuan is 100% accepted as a pure Taiwanese player in Taiwan and elsewhere, even though he trained for a long time in China.  This is extremely common among Asian players, especially among Southeast Asian countries.  In fact, current Japanese national champion Ai Fukuhara spent considerably more time training in China than Chuan, and actually moved to China with her family at an earlier age than him... As a result she also speaks fluent Mandarin.

Can we get back to whats happening at the Olympics now please?

Henzell is doing well against Samsonov, 2-2 in sets

Joo lost

Joo is out, heck of a match!

William is looking good
now take the 7th set.
Make us MYTT all proud

Alex Li - please organise a My TT top for William 

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bbkon, what is that prefix that made me miss the whole post?

Maybe it's not the best idea to ask someone in China to upload videos, I don't have access to many streaming sites.

I want to see Ariel's match so badly. Eurovisionsports doesn't have it, my local sports TV channel didn't broadcast this match, dang it :////

vutiendat1337 wrote: I want to see Ariel's match so badly. Eurovisionsports doesn't have it, my local sports TV channel didn't broadcast this match, dang it :////

Ariel - LXX match can be watched here
http://2012.cntv.cn/20120730/102237.shtml

dmras wrote: vutiendat1337 wrote: I want to see Ariel's match so badly. Eurovisionsports doesn't have it, my local sports TV channel didn't broadcast this match, dang it ://// Ariel - LXX match can be watched here http://2012.cntv.cn/20120730/102237.shtml

Edited by vutiendat1337 - 07/30/2012 at 7:13am

APW46 wrote:  if you want to make such profound statements in public, you have to get your facts right. The guy was shot because the police mistakenly thought he was just about to blow up a train, it was a case of mistaken identity and absolutely nothing what so ever to do with racism in any form. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Mr APW46,

I don't need to feel ashamed

From what I heard from international media, and from what the family of murdered said, If it wasn't for the fact of his looks, he wouldn't been shot.
Now why wasn't some other person shot but him?
There were so many people there with bags and why was he the unlucky one? And it was like a whole army was there and not just some patrol police.

Now I'm not saying that police is racist and goes out shooting a specific race. But rather that if that man wasn't treated with his looks, I'm sure the whole thing will be different at the end of the day. So what ever your country or media wants to do to protect things going racial, I just feel it is a sad thing that diferenciation is still a big thing of our lifes, especially in Londons famous international airport.

So why are you being so defensive? do you agree to what that police man did and just accept the excuse of mistaken identity?
Anyways, I am not trying to be a judge here and seems like you are taking UK related things so serious. I am happy you want to protect your nation, but that is not the point.

If you read my previous post, I am saying - don't judge based on they ethnical look - it will lead to disaster

understand now mister? or you still feel that the whole world need to be ashamed because of some stupid mistake by some stupid police man and that the matter has resurfaced on the internet? a mistake is a mistake and we need to learn from and not RE DO it

Maybe you should be ashame of yourself because you are suggesting others to be ashamed of themself?

I just think you are taking it too serious.
A Chinese saying - A innocent is always innocent. Simply by you jumping to the gun (and not just this time), I can clearly see where you belong. I just hope the "mod" badge you have is not the reason of your post.


Edited by ZApenholder - 07/30/2012 at 8:20am

ZApenholder wrote: APW46 wrote:  if you want to make such profound statements in public, you have to get your facts right. The guy was shot because the police mistakenly thought he was just about to blow up a train, it was a case of mistaken identity and absolutely nothing what so ever to do with racism in any form. You should be ashamed of yourself. Mr APW46, I don't need to feel ashamed From what I heard from international media, and from what the family of murdered said, If it wasn't for the fact of his looks, he wouldn't been shot. Now why wasn't some other person shot but him? There were so many people there with bags and why was he the unlucky one? And it was like a whole army was there and not just some patrol police. Now I'm not saying that police is racist and goes out shooting a specific race. But rather that if that man wasn't treated with his looks, I'm sure the whole thing will be different at the end of the day. So what ever your country or media wants to do to protect things going racial, I just feel it is a sad thing that diferenciation is still a big thing of our lifes, especially in Londons famous international airport. So why are you being so defensive? do you agree to what that police man did and just accept the excuse of mistaken identity? Anyways, I am not trying to be a judge here and seems like you are taking UK related things so serious. I am happy you want to protect your nation, but that is not the point. If you read my previous post, I am saying - don't judge based on they ethnical routes - it will lead to disaster understand now mister? or you still feel that the whole world need to be ashamed because of some stupid mistake by some stupid police man and that the matter has resurfaced on the internet? a mistake is a mistake and we need to learn from and not RE DO it Maybe you should be ashamed?