Viscaria, H3, T05 review

Going to do a typical review. Viscaria + H3(FH provincial oj sponge) + T05(BH) review. This is going to be a quick one as I know there's numerous view on this setup. English is not my first language so bare with me. 

Edited by hunkeelin - 12/25/2017 at 6:58pm

Rich, you really don't need to make that comment on every thread.

richrf wrote: I'm just wondering why all these reviews are always punctuated with this myth. "A proven setup for pros?" It is odd. It is very much a TT thing since I've never seen such efforts to link pro equipment to commercial equipment on any other forum I've ever been on. Yet here it is a constant tune. I would say I am bewildered.

purpletiesto, I suggest you read through this recent thread (starting at the bottom of page 1) and save yourself a big headache.

HarmonicTT wrote: This is proven false as everyone has custom blades from thickness to blade face size.. Also the dhs rubbers they use for backhand have anything from tenergy 05 sponge to different rubber sponges underneath. Ma long is good but they would never use a national h3 neo for backhand by itself. He needs extra power and the long v unless super beefed up by itself isn't the fastest blade. Also that's the same with fan zhendong everyone believed he used a stiga infinity vps v....

For one I can attest that I have seen a couple of ex-provincial players in LA play with this exact setup, though they had bluesponge hurricane.

rocketman222 wrote: For one I can attest that I have seen a couple of ex-provincial players in LA play with this exact setup, though they had bluesponge hurricane.

Well that's a pretty big difference. I'm glad you mentioned it.

Yesterday I spoke with my nephew who plays quite a bit it NYC. He agreed with me about the c quality of online purchases and related to me he and his friends purchase their equipment from China and Japan at the brick and mortar retail stores when one of them take a trip there. They certainly noticed differences.

NextLevel wrote: richrf wrote: rocketman222 wrote: For one I can attest that I have seen a couple of ex-provincial players in LA play with this exact setup, though they had bluesponge hurricane. Well that's a pretty big difference. I'm glad you mentioned it. Yesterday I spoke with my nephew who plays quite a bit it NYC. He agreed with me about the c quality of online purchases and related to me he and his friends purchase their equipment from China and Japan at the brick and mortar retail stores when one of them take a trip there. They certainly noticed differences. And what is the rating level of your nephew?  2600?

liXiao wrote: Tennis is very much the same way. Obviously few sports actually such variance in equipment you can use, so naturally in table tennis, tennis, and even squash, people gravitate toward what professionals use

I haven't been on a tennis forum in a while but I don't remember anyone ever suggesting that pros play with retail equipment. It was pretty much taken for granted that there was no parity. But then again, tennis was pretty straight forward. Go to the pro shop, borrow a few few rackets, and buy one that you like and it would last for years. Equipment discussion was very limited because it was inconsequential.

ohwell wrote: richrf wrote: rocketman222 wrote: For one I can attest that I have seen a couple of ex-provincial players in LA play with this exact setup, though they had bluesponge hurricane. Well that's a pretty big difference. I'm glad you mentioned it. Yesterday I spoke with my nephew who plays quite a bit it NYC. He agreed with me about the c quality of online purchases and related to me he and his friends purchase their equipment from China and Japan at the brick and mortar retail stores when one of them take a trip there. They certainly noticed differences. I thought that nothing of any quality was ever made in China according to your sources.

It's there, but you have to go to known channels that are responsive to known customers. It is a relationship. He offered to give me one of his blades he purchased in China which he said is really good. I'll look at it when I visit. It's really just like 1, 2, and there star balls. There are gradations and the pros get the best.

NextLevel wrote: Yeah, it was so inconsequential that you went to a pro shop to buy a racket.  And of course, we won't get into natural gut vs luxillon strings and tensions etc.

I could get the same rackets at Sportmart, at a cheaper price, but I felt the pro shop offered the additional service of loaners so they deserved my business

Tension gut, and all of that other stuff was totally inconsequential. Never mattered to me or to anyone I played with. I just let the pro string it up to some average tension so it wouldn't break to quickly.

richrf wrote: bard romance wrote: Rich perhaps instead of using these general terms you keep throwing around such as "known channels" you can provide some specifics about what actually goes down? I told you. Players develop a relationship with a vendor and they are taken care of. I don't buy enough to make a difference, but in Chicago, the players would buy in large quantities from a vendor that they knew, (there were a few in Chicago) and the equipment was generally quite good. The only stuff I've ever had to throw out (literally) was stuff I bought online. In any case, it is absurd to create an equivalence between pro equipment and retail equipment so I am bewildered as to why this forum continues to nourish this idea.

richrf wrote: NextLevel wrote: Yeah, it was so inconsequential that you went to a pro shop to buy a racket.  And of course, we won't get into natural gut vs luxillon strings and tensions etc. I could get the same rackets at Sportmart, at a cheaper price, but I felt the pro shop offered the additional service of loaners so they deserved my business Tension gut, and all of that other stuff was totally inconsequential. Never mattered to me or to anyone I played with. I just let the pro string it up to some average tension so it wouldn't break to quickly.

richrf wrote: NextLevel wrote: richrf wrote: NextLevel wrote: Yeah, it was so inconsequential that you went to a pro shop to buy a racket.  And of course, we won't get into natural gut vs luxillon strings and tensions etc. I could get the same rackets at Sportmart, at a cheaper price, but I felt the pro shop offered the additional service of loaners so they deserved my business Tension gut, and all of that other stuff was totally inconsequential. Never mattered to me or to anyone I played with. I just let the pro string it up to some average tension so it wouldn't break to quickly. In other words, you were not a good enough player to tell the difference.   It was of no matter. I can play with anything. Consistency is key.

richrf wrote: I have no doubt that there are those who take equipment very seriously and will change it once again very shortly. As for me, a good piece of equipment lasts eight years. It is all about consistency.

Using equipment for me is a hobby I enjoy. I am at a decent playing level and started learning 6 years ago. If you have kept your equipment for 8 years and played for s long time and have not come close to my playing level what is the conclusion? What has your consistency earned You? The right to bloviate about your incompetence?

Part of the reason I test stuff is that as I improve, I have a different notion of what might work.   But it is cheaper than buying cars. And I can tell people who want to buy stuff how it plays. Not quite as easy as calling it junk because I have no clue how to use it but if it were easy everyone would so it.