Xushaofa 999-LSZ rubber

runeazn wrote: How long does this rubber last, well you know it is tuned Also what about this one http://ttnpp.com/shop/xushaofa-lsz-ii-999-tornado-tension-gp-sponge-p-222.html

I have these (from ttnpp) in black in both 43* and 45*. The purple sponge version sold by Eacheng is better, though these are certainly not bad rubbers.

runeazn wrote: why does everybody buy a black one and not a red one? Is the durability of the black one better than the red one?

Im interested about the xushaofa lsz ii 999 tornado tension gp sponge from ttnpp, there doesnt seem to be much reviews on this rubber. Has anyone tried this rubber out, what are the playing characteristics?

nathanso wrote: My latest sheet of XSF 999 LSZ black is taking longer than one day to break in. I just finished day two and it's still not as fast or clicky as my first sheet which has 20+ days playing time on it.

I got impatient with breaking in my 2nd sheet of this 999 LSZ, especially after mounting it on an identical blade as my 1st sheet and comparing the two on my robot: 1st sheet goes tick! 2nd sheet goes tock. 1st sheet way faster. I looked over the 7 unopened sheets I have from Eacheng and (finally) noticed that half are marked 37*, half 38*.

I figured I had solved the riddle, but alas; my 1st and 2nd sheets are both 37*. Now it's possible that my well-played 1st sheet just took a lot longer to break in than I thought. Or, it's possible there's a lot of product variation between one sheet of XSF and the next.

To test that latter theory, I opened my 3rd sheet (this one a 38*) and mounted it on a third identical blade. Slow and tacky right out of the package, as expected. I'll focus on breaking it in and see how it compares to #1 and #2 in the coming days.

Sheet #1, with around 20 playing days, is as fast as Thors on slow and mid-speed flat drives, though Thors has a higher top-end on hard smacks. The reason I love #1 is that even with all that speed, its spin, control, and consistency are better than what Thors gives me.

Edited by nathanso - 08/03/2012 at 1:53am

My 3rd sheet broke in very quickly and is closer to my 1st than my 2nd. I'll call the 2nd a dud.

At $10 per sheet -- and being that they seem durable and long-lived -- I see no problem in solving the inconsistency problem with quantity.

I can help explain maybe?

Check the production dates on the sponges if possible.

Factory tuned rubbers, even sealed, lose their tune sitting on the shelf in packaging.

AFAIK this I is part of the reason HaiFu products have such wildly varying properties.


It's also the reason why many Chinese manufacturers sell an"untuned" version

nathanso wrote: I've peeled off the factory glue from the back of my #2 sheet of XSF 999 LSZ and applied some non-VOC tuner to the sponge which quickly soaked in. I'll be trying this sheet tomorrow at my local TT club.

I use the word Intensifier - it is not banned by ITTF. Factory properties are not changed, only intensified. But this rubber seems to be resistent to intensifiers...

Imago wrote: I use the word Intensifier - it is not banned by ITTF. Factory properties are not changed, only intensified. But this rubber seems to be resistent to intensifiers...

It doesn't appear to be resistant to my Top Tech Tuners T3.. it domed right up within an hour of applying the first coat. Keep in mind that I rubbed off the factory coating that was applied to the surface of the sponge, making it look quite normal as opposed to having 'high glutinosity'.

The rubber is heavy, that's for sure. Prompted me to switch from 755 1.0 to 755 OX just to shed 15g.

I have played with this topsheet with 3 different sponges...
blue sponge which was very similar to the feel of H3 blue sponge ...needed lots of tuning
GP sponge which was easy to expand but let the tuner to the topsheet too quickly and ruined the topsheet quickly faster then blue sponge and a bit softer
purple sponge was nice for the backhand and seemed to be the spinniest...also needs extra tunning
but in terms of performance output...i found it as one of the best, not to mention the price being  much lower then most of its competitors
please note that i use this on a Off- blade (all wood)...so i need them boosted

Just back from the club after trying tuned sheet #2. It was certainly softer and faster.. nearly as fast as sheet #1. Spin close to #1 but didn't cause the chaos #1's spin does. Worse, its click noise was completely gone. Spin on serve did seem better than #1. Between #1 and tuned #2, #1 is still my favorite.

Nathanso,

Yes, I guess that Max would make sense...

Edited by Old-Man-Southpaw - 11/05/2012 at 11:30am

Yes, i ordered one to try with my last order from them.  It will be a couple weeks before it arrives.