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Callum Evans (UK #9) vs Paul McCreery (UK #8) | Final | Gloucester Grand Prix 26.06.2022


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Chris Doran vs Samuel Walker | Final | London Grand Prix 29.05.2022



Great match.  For a player at Walker's level, his ball placement is incredibly unimaginative and unorthodox.  Maybe it was the difference in perceived level/athleticism, but Doran was precisely the opposite.

Yes, Doran definitely had a plan in mind and tactics to support it.
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Chris Doran vs Samuel Walker | Final | London Grand Prix 29.05.2022



Great match.  For a player at Walker's level, his ball placement is incredibly unimaginative and unorthodox.  Maybe it was the difference in perceived level/athleticism, but Doran was precisely the opposite.
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Chris Doran vs Samuel Walker | Final | London Grand Prix 29.05.2022


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Grigory Vlasov vs Chris Doran | Final | Hereford 2* 19.03.2022


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Grigory Vlasov vs Radoslav Kamberov | Final | Preston Grand Prix 31.10.2021



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Sam Mabey (England #8) vs Lorestas Trampauskas (England #12) | Final | Crawley Grand Prix 19.09.2021

  




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Niall Cameron vs Darius Knight | Quarter Final | Crawley Grand Prix 19.09.2021
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I think he's doing some private coaching and/or summer camps:


P.S.: If I get a chance, I'll pass on your request to Chris and Grigory to meet each other in a Grand Prix final :-)
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It seems to me that I've seen Grigory Vlasov in videos from the Russian Premier league and tournaments from the Russian area.  What's he doing playing in England?

Also, people asked earlier why Damion hadn't achieved the heights of success once expected of him.  It seemed to me that he had a complete meltdown in his match with Vlasov.  You can't reach the top if you don't have the mental toughness.

Thanks for the videos, but I'm sad thee is no Chris Doran versus Vlasov.Cry
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Jiawang Song v Sam Mabey - Wolverhampton Grand Prix 2019 Final 

Grigory Vlasov v Ismaila Akindiya - London Grand Prix Final 2019 

Darius Knight vs Grigory Vlasov - Jersey Grand Prix Final 2019 

Grigory Vlasov and Radoslav Kamberov v Alim Hirji and Kim Daybell - London Grand Prix Doubles Final
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Last year I was lucky enough to umpire one his matches. I think he had a JOOLA Fever blade + Rhythm rubbers on both sides.
Isn't Rhythm just a typical ESN rubber?  I don't know the Fever blade.

Yes, it is. And Fever seems like a TBS clone. 
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Last year I was lucky enough to umpire one his matches. I think he had a JOOLA Fever blade + Rhythm rubbers on both sides.
Isn't Rhythm just a typical ESN rubber?  I don't know the Fever blade.
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Last year I was lucky enough to umpire one his matches. I think he had a JOOLA Fever blade + Rhythm rubbers on both sides.
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Any idea what kind of setup Chris uses?
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Nah, sometimes other decent players win :-) 

Table Tennis England is quite rubbish at any kind of match stats, so my gut feeling, based on anecdotal evidence and conversations with other people, Chris probably has won more over the course of history. 

As to styles, I've heard a couple of Chris's opponents mutter something along the lines of "he's not doing much, why am I losing ..." under their breath after losing a point :-) He has incredible touch and anticipation of opponent's next shot. 
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So do these guys, like, just meet in the final of every tournament in England?  The matches I've seen have Chris winning, but that would be a limited selection.  What do you think their overall head-to-head record is?

It's a really interesting clash of styles.  Darius is much more active (a lot more and faster footwork) and more aggressive in attacking.  Chris seems to have gone to the Samsonov school of blocking, with great chop blocks and a lot of clever variation in his spin and speed.  You would think that Darius would learn to adjust after a couple of matches, but in this video he was really struggling to accommodate all those blocks and off-speed/off-spin shots from Chris.

Anyway, thanks for the cool video.  Now if I could just figure out what's going on with Chris' hair (or lack thereof)...
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2019 Topspin Sports Burgess Hill Sussex Open 2* Open Singles final | Chris Doran v Darius Knight




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2019 London Grand Prix Final - Grigory Vlasov v Ismaila Akindiya:




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Chris Doran v Jiawang Song, Hereford 2 star 30th Dec 2018.


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Chris Doran v Jiawang Song, Hereford 2 star 30th Dec 2018.

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Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mjamja mjamja wrote:

Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

He represented England in 2006 and 2008 WTTTCs.

What happened with his TT career? Did he go off to University and/or get involved in a normal career?

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Better players came on the scene.

Only two, max three. Nowhere near enough to keep a player of his ability out if international scene. Look how many French and Germans play internationally.

Well depends on what you think keeps players out of the international scene.  There are a least 5 players IN England who are much better and truly international.   Darius still plays but he is not Engliah team material ahead of those players.

Drinkhall, Pitchford, Walker, ???

Doran is as good as any of the rest. He is better than McBeath for example.Who  are these  mystery much better players? Baggely or Jarvis? Chris is as good as those players.

Doran is what I would call a domestic player.  I don't think his style would translate to international success.  McBeath's game translates better though I could see him losing to Doran.  Jarvis is younger but same, his game translates better than those 2 and I expect him to ultimately be better.  Darius Knight is a good player, but top 150 is not going to do it for the national team these days, unless you have extra money to spend.  Maybe he could replace McBeath if we tried?  What does that get him?

I am bloviating a bit, but that is my opinion.  Most of the German guys who play are targetting top 50.




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Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

My rough take on it is
 
Tier 1 Pitchford and Drinkhall
Tier 2 Walker Just behind I would say.
Tier 3 The others mentioned and a few more as well.
 
Chris is pretty well king in the domestic GP Circuit for the last few years as very few if any of the really top 5 or 6 players play in those events now as they are abroad. Chris I think plays in Belgium and is a really steady performer in most things he does. Be great to see Darius and everyone else play from a watching point of view.
 
London GP this weekend will be good with a couple of strong players at the top. Anyone going from the forum?

 
 
 

I'll be there both days. Got the top seed in my open singles group on Sunday. Free coaching lesson ... :-)

Are you about to play a former top 100 player? What an amazing experience.

The draw was even kinder to me. Aside from Grigory Vlasov, I got schooled by former Lithuanian men's champion, and former Latvian women's champion :-)

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Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

My rough take on it is
 
Tier 1 Pitchford and Drinkhall
Tier 2 Walker Just behind I would say.
Tier 3 The others mentioned and a few more as well.
 
Chris is pretty well king in the domestic GP Circuit for the last few years as very few if any of the really top 5 or 6 players play in those events now as they are abroad. Chris I think plays in Belgium and is a really steady performer in most things he does. Be great to see Darius and everyone else play from a watching point of view.
 
London GP this weekend will be good with a couple of strong players at the top. Anyone going from the forum?

 
 
 

I'll be there both days. Got the top seed in my open singles group on Sunday. Free coaching lesson ... :-)

Are you about to play a former top 100 player? What an amazing experience.
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Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

My rough take on it is
 
Tier 1 Pitchford and Drinkhall
Tier 2 Walker Just behind I would say.
Tier 3 The others mentioned and a few more as well.
 
Chris is pretty well king in the domestic GP Circuit for the last few years as very few if any of the really top 5 or 6 players play in those events now as they are abroad. Chris I think plays in Belgium and is a really steady performer in most things he does. Be great to see Darius and everyone else play from a watching point of view.
 
London GP this weekend will be good with a couple of strong players at the top. Anyone going from the forum?

 
 
 

I'll be there both days. Got the top seed in my open singles group on Sunday. Free coaching lesson ... :-)

 
 
 Yep ...that'll do it! Smile  One of the players I know is seeded 4 and if he's been playing much will be pretty strong. Hopefully be a good event.
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Originally posted by ghostzen ghostzen wrote:

My rough take on it is
 
Tier 1 Pitchford and Drinkhall
Tier 2 Walker Just behind I would say.
Tier 3 The others mentioned and a few more as well.
 
Chris is pretty well king in the domestic GP Circuit for the last few years as very few if any of the really top 5 or 6 players play in those events now as they are abroad. Chris I think plays in Belgium and is a really steady performer in most things he does. Be great to see Darius and everyone else play from a watching point of view.
 
London GP this weekend will be good with a couple of strong players at the top. Anyone going from the forum?

 
 
 

I'll be there both days. Got the top seed in my open singles group on Sunday. Free coaching lesson ... :-)

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My rough take on it is
 
Tier 1 Pitchford and Drinkhall
Tier 2 Walker Just behind I would say.
Tier 3 The others mentioned and a few more as well.
 
Chris is pretty well king in the domestic GP Circuit for the last few years as very few if any of the really top 5 or 6 players play in those events now as they are abroad. Chris I think plays in Belgium and is a really steady performer in most things he does. Be great to see Darius and everyone else play from a watching point of view.
 
London GP this weekend will be good with a couple of strong players at the top. Anyone going from the forum?
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mjamja mjamja wrote:

Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

He represented England in 2006 and 2008 WTTTCs.

What happened with his TT career? Did he go off to University and/or get involved in a normal career?

Mark - Curious minds want to know

Better players came on the scene.

Only two, max three. Nowhere near enough to keep a player of his ability out if international scene. Look how many French and Germans play internationally.

Well depends on what you think keeps players out of the international scene.  There are a least 5 players IN England who are much better and truly international.   Darius still plays but he is not Engliah team material ahead of those players.

Drinkhall, Pitchford, Walker, ???

Doran is as good as any of the rest. He is better than McBeath for example.Who  are these  mystery much better players? Baggely or Jarvis? Chris is as good as those players.


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Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mjamja mjamja wrote:

Originally posted by vvk1 vvk1 wrote:

He represented England in 2006 and 2008 WTTTCs.

What happened with his TT career? Did he go off to University and/or get involved in a normal career?

Mark - Curious minds want to know

Better players came on the scene.

Only two, max three. Nowhere near enough to keep a player of his ability out if international scene. Look how many French and Germans play internationally.

Well depends on what you think keeps players out of the international scene.  There are a least 5 players IN England who are much better and truly international.   Darius still plays but he is not Engliah team material ahead of those players.
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